Is it OK to work for the Lord?
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If the only reason to work is to glorify self, then are you recommending that we are disobedient, for to not work it to disobey?
I don't think that we can honor the Lord within us and be disobedient. Sin separates us from the Lord, for the Lord cannot live with sin.
The Lord cannot even hear people who will not obey Him. John 9:31 “We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will.”
I don't think that we can honor the Lord within us and be disobedient. Sin separates us from the Lord, for the Lord cannot live with sin.
The Lord cannot even hear people who will not obey Him. John 9:31 “We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly person who does his will.”
Yes exactly.
Everything is ok as long as the whole Gospel is preached. If some parts are diminished in favor of others, it stops being the same gospel any more. Which is what I believe it means, don't turn the right or the left, and, the way is straight and narrow. Right would be legalism and left would be license per example. Neither of these two are true, even though there is both righteousness and also freedom in the gospel.
It's noticeable that some members like talking ONLY about works and law. This is not the fullness of the truth.
Everything is ok as long as the whole Gospel is preached. If some parts are diminished in favor of others, it stops being the same gospel any more. Which is what I believe it means, don't turn the right or the left, and, the way is straight and narrow. Right would be legalism and left would be license per example. Neither of these two are true, even though there is both righteousness and also freedom in the gospel.
It's noticeable that some members like talking ONLY about works and law. This is not the fullness of the truth.
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If we are dead in our trespass then Christ died for nothing. Through Christ we are forgiven, made clean of our sin, made into souls acceptable to live forever with the Lord. We are lost and doomed not longer if we have faith in Jesus and ask Him to forgive our sins.
Some say that after our salvation, we are free to live a life of sin, but when we are freed of the death of sin, when we confess and tell the Lord we want rid of sin in our life, why should we take that back and tell the Lord we didn't mean it, we want our sin?
Some say that after our salvation, we are free to live a life of sin, but when we are freed of the death of sin, when we confess and tell the Lord we want rid of sin in our life, why should we take that back and tell the Lord we didn't mean it, we want our sin?
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No, dear. I discuss scripture, you discuss ways to personally attack me rather than discussing scripture with slandering, accusing, name calling. There are Christians on this site, ones who can disagree without the name calling, accusations, and awful things said about the posters. We learn from each other. There is no learning in your quarrelling, name calling, accusations.
Ephesians 4:31-5.2 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Ephesians 4:31-5.2 Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you. Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.
Back up your accusation that I attack a person, or shut up about accusing me of this. I disagree with your position on how you know the law better than those who love God's law, and on your emphasis on anything you find that you feel is against the law. That is opposing your view of the importance of the different things God tells us about the law, it is NOT attacking you personally. You oppose my view that the law is a wonderful guidance the Lord gives us, and that is fine. That is your interpretation of scripture. But your posts are mostly quarrelling, accusing, judgmental. To that I object. I would like to discuss scripture with Christians, and this is not Christian.
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I don’t have to do it, you do it so often it is there for everyone to seem and multiple people accuse you of it, we can’t all be wrong
you slandered Me by saying I said work is dangerous when I never said such thing,
I said work of the law
and you can not even humble yourself to admit you made a mistake, instead you attack me,
you slandered Me by saying I said work is dangerous when I never said such thing,
I said work of the law
and you can not even humble yourself to admit you made a mistake, instead you attack me,
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Glory be! So your slander of me is based on your saying "works of the law" instead of saying "works"!! Come on. If you see a difference, say so. Slandering me over it is wrong, explaining yourself would be kind and Christian.
I am supposed to humble myself to you now? Are you superior? Even the constitution tells us all men are equal. The Lord agrees.
The fact of the matter is that you have a right to post your interpretation and I have a right to post mine. The idea that I must humble myself so I agree with your interpretation, having no rights to listen to the Lord in how the Lord speaks to me, is wrong. How would you like it if I told you to see things my way or the highway? I may not take away your rights, and you may not take away mine, or slander me because of my interpretation.
I am supposed to humble myself to you now? Are you superior? Even the constitution tells us all men are equal. The Lord agrees.
The fact of the matter is that you have a right to post your interpretation and I have a right to post mine. The idea that I must humble myself so I agree with your interpretation, having no rights to listen to the Lord in how the Lord speaks to me, is wrong. How would you like it if I told you to see things my way or the highway? I may not take away your rights, and you may not take away mine, or slander me because of my interpretation.
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Paul states it pretty clearly here to the church in Colossae:
“Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.” Col. 3:23-25
So many Christian business people try and point out that we are called to excellence.
But I think they are fundamentally wrong. I cannot find anywhere in the bible that requires us to "excel."
Instead, I believe it is a question of being willing to work hard. In God's economy, that is what really counts. Proverbs sums it up well:
The Lord does not let the righteous go hungry, but he thwarts the craving of the wicked. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich. Prov. 10:3-4
“Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for men, since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving.” Col. 3:23-25
So many Christian business people try and point out that we are called to excellence.
But I think they are fundamentally wrong. I cannot find anywhere in the bible that requires us to "excel."
Instead, I believe it is a question of being willing to work hard. In God's economy, that is what really counts. Proverbs sums it up well:
The Lord does not let the righteous go hungry, but he thwarts the craving of the wicked. A slack hand causes poverty, but the hand of the diligent makes rich. Prov. 10:3-4
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OH MY!
you have gone to a new low, here let’s me prove it to you (although if history continues, this will not prove a thing to you, you will continue to deny it
My statement (or my belief as you said here) was this
your reply, which in itself was slanderous
to which, as you said in the current post, I tried to correct you by saying I did not say work was dangerous. But that trying to work out the the law after yu are saved
to which you continue to refuse to repent of making an error in which you claim I said WORK was dangerous, something I HAVE NEVER SAID. Yet you seem to want to continue to insist I did, YOUR WRONG!
my last post to you was correctl I do not have to prove anything to you, you do more than enough to prove yur proud slanderous ways, now yu claim I slandered your u?
maam, yu need to wake up and take ownership of your sins against me and others, yu can not sit here and continually claim people say things they have never said or even hinted at, and then tell us how we have to be obedient people. That’s makes you a hypocrite, of the worse kind.
you have gone to a new low, here let’s me prove it to you (although if history continues, this will not prove a thing to you, you will continue to deny it
My statement (or my belief as you said here) was this
your reply, which in itself was slanderous
to which, as you said in the current post, I tried to correct you by saying I did not say work was dangerous. But that trying to work out the the law after yu are saved
to which you continue to refuse to repent of making an error in which you claim I said WORK was dangerous, something I HAVE NEVER SAID. Yet you seem to want to continue to insist I did, YOUR WRONG!
my last post to you was correctl I do not have to prove anything to you, you do more than enough to prove yur proud slanderous ways, now yu claim I slandered your u?
maam, yu need to wake up and take ownership of your sins against me and others, yu can not sit here and continually claim people say things they have never said or even hinted at, and then tell us how we have to be obedient people. That’s makes you a hypocrite, of the worse kind.
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one of her tricks is when someone quotes Scripture to her that she is not familiar with, instead of acknowledging that the Scripture is also a part of God's Word, she says ' so YOU are saying....." or " do YOU think that....."
it is easy to stay in a state of " i am right and everyone is wrong" when you do not acknowledge that Scripture is Scripture..
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