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Truth7t7

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What is the deal with Christian's wanting trump removed, who is friendly to church,Israel, America, and our culture and tradition, plus exposing and battling the corruption of media and the luciferian democratic swamp...???
What is the deal????
Wolves in sheeps clothing

Depart from me, ye that work iniquity
 

Roughsoul1991

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"Capital"in its strictest sense are the financial/resources assets held in accounts.

Investors assume risk and that is an important part of capitalism, when the risk factor is undermined only for the benefit of a few, then one has crony capitalism.

I should state "qualified free markets" ... for me anyway, I do think there needs to be some regulation by government, however yes supply and demand, letting competition be the driving force and investment by private decisions.
I do think there needs to be some regulation by the government
I agree but what I learned in civics was that the government's sole purpose in at least our socio-economic comparison between corruption and the markets. Was to combat immorality by only enforcing fairness in the markets. Promote competition and free trade exchange. They can choose to set tax limits but technically this is voted by the closest branch to the people (congress) and even then it should be within the limits of the Constitution in less voted on.

So technically a capitalist free market economy in theory must have checks and balances. So balanced by the government but checked by the people.

This is why Christians must be involved politically and socially. Because immorality will corrupt any human system.
 
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I agree but what I learned in civics was that the government's sole purpose in at least our socio-economic comparison between corruption and the markets. Was to combat immorality by only enforcing fairness in the markets. Promote competition and free trade exchange. They can choose to set tax limits but technically this is voted by the closest branch to the people (congress) and even then it should be within the limits of the Constitution in less voted on.

So technically a capitalist free market economy in theory must have checks and balances. So balanced by the government but checked by the people.

This is why Christians must be involved politically and socially. Because immorality will corrupt any human system.
Yes that is what I meant by regulation. Agree.

Yes I would agree it must, however the system has become so complex, that does not help.

I agree Christians should never abdicate their role in society, they need to be models, ... yet not to impose but as much as possible to win the argument by reason and logic.
 

Truth7t7

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Looks like it’s difficult to reason with people here. If one holds a different opinion he or she is evil, ignorant and a troll. 😎
Just Leftist in support of Biden/Harris, killers of the innocent unborn (Abortion)

Have you looked in the mirror lately? :)
 
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Looks like it’s difficult to reason with people here. If one holds a different opinion he or she is evil, ignorant and a troll. 😎
Difficult, you are too kind, more like impossible and lest we forget non-Christian.
 

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so he was offering to argue the rejected lawsuit before the SCOTUS on behalf of the outgoing president.

given what he has said in the past, and given what you take it to mean, i.e. that he will spout any lie in any context if it's to his advantage, would such a man be a good choice to be presenting arguments to the SCOTUS?
shouldn't we distrust everything he says?


shouldn't we -- according to your own estimation of him -- presume that he only supports the outgoing president's alternate reality because he's trying to win the votes of the people in the Trump cult?
Sir, while I can recognize and acknowledge your means for deduction, generalizations and reasoning - I also acknowledge your rather astute and masterful debating skills... The makings of a good lawyer - fully capable of making the case for whichever side or position that you choose defend.

I on the other hand tend to see things thru a different lens and often in broader terms of observation.

While I am not in the business of trying to influence or bias other people's decision making processes - but since you asked my opinion I am glad to response... Albeit, I have to say that I do not see the point of this sort of inquiry - knowing that it only serves as a mere distraction away from the bigger more strategic picture at stake for our democracy...

Recall my comment applied to 'Politicians' - being that given the distrust of biased MSM and SM tech giants (censorship, dishonest reporting - don't believe your own eyes - no violence, riots or looting to see here)...

I suggest that 'we' demand EQUAL vetting and professional journalistic reporting upon all news worthy Politicians; Not only should we question what all Politicians 'say' (it's about what they 'do' anyway) 'we' should also question (from this point forward) what we hear and see from MSM and SM - forever, or until they are held accountable for fair and balanced reporting

IMHO, Yes, Cruz eyeing his run in 2016 and prospect for 2024 was, is and would be a very smart Political play to attempt to garner Trump's base to build upon for his personal favor as a point of departure for 2024... I would advise 'we' refrain from using potentially flawed (if then) logic in validating our personal assumptions to discern judgements of others...

If we have re-learned anything from the 2020 elections, primaries and debates - if we are objectively looking at it equitably from both sides... We can confirm that Politicians (on both sides) can be found contradicting themselves, and striving to gain whatever political advantage they can for their Personal Gains (first) and their Party (second)... Recall Kamala's scathing racist accusations of Biden during their primary debate... We can play this tit for tat back and forth all day... But at the end of the day emotional debates about personality quirks or 'he said, she said' are mere mouse holes - given the bigger picture, consequences and stakes...

My bigger and more significant comment remains the more strategic issue and concern for the future state of our democracy: where "the Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend..." Where Cruz see's that he and Trump and 74K+ Patriots are on the side of defending our US Constitution against all Enemies... Where the common Enemy are the perceived Puppeteers who have financed, enabled and/or orchestrated Leftest Operatives whose actions and activities continue to raise more than a reasonable doubt about the current and future integrity of our once trusted liberty and democracy.

I'm a professional research analyst - I'm all about proving or dis-proving hypotheses and coming away with a better and more grounded understanding of the ground-truth... The analogy being 'Instant Replay' in professional or Olympic sports... Anyone who opposes an analogous 'Instant Replay' to fairly and objectively adjudicate the rightful winner (left or right) - IMHO is essentially exposing themselves as being completely BIASED to tilt the rules as long as they favor their side... As such, they are essentially declaring themselves to be on the side of the Enemy of our Constitutional Democracy...
 

Roughsoul1991

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Yes that is what I meant by regulation. Agree.

Yes I would agree it must, however the system has become so complex, that does not help.

I agree Christians should never abdicate their role in society, they need to be models, ... yet not to impose but as much as possible to win the argument by reason and logic.
That is why I am an originalist in the context of how it was intended. An immoral culture will corrupt the economy and the government. Things will become more complex to combat the rise in immorality. But in the process of controlling corruption, the culture is corrupting the officials who are supposed to be controlling the corruption.

If impose you mean not to force people to worship our God then yes. But if impose as in a set of morals then I do believe we should vote on morals that protect life, liberty, and property. To protect people's civil rights.

I believe those morals are of the Biblical God.
 

Truth7t7

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Judge to conduct hearing on whether to lift protective order, release Antrim County results

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LANSING — A judge is expected to hold a hearing Monday morning on a lawyer’s request to lift a protective order shielding the results of a court-ordered examination of voting equipment in Antrim County — a county that President Donald Trump easily won, but where his legal team is alleging irregularities.
 
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That is why I am an originalist in the context of how it was intended. An immoral culture will corrupt the economy and the government. Things will become more complex to combat the rise in immorality. But in the process of controlling corruption, the culture is corrupting the officials who are supposed to be controlling the corruption.

If impose you mean not to force people to worship our God then yes. But if impose as in a set of morals then I do believe we should vote on morals that protect life, liberty, and property. To protect people's civil rights.

I believe those morals are of the Biblical God.
I understand your point of view ... however I am more persuaded that our primary role is to spread the Gospel and then the result will be people living under grace as planned by God.

Tell me do you think adulterers and homosexuals should be put in jail?

Where do we draw the line?
 

Truth7t7

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There is a lot chatter about many states drive toward succession. Should this happen the bankrupt Democrat gulags cities will quickly implode into anarchy and despair.

The question at hand: Why should honest patriots live their life under the lawless rule of Democrat city gangsters and hoodlums? Why should honest productive citizens have to suffer a parasitical plague of criminals who despise America and its founding principles?
100% Correct!

The democratic run cities are staying afloat on the backs of hard working Americans and their federal tax dollars

If conservative States were to succeed, property values in Democratic controlled States would plummet

Who wants to live amongst criminal thugs, cashless bail, defund the police, open the prisons, protect the criminals?

Nobody but criminals want to live in such a place?
 

Truth7t7

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That's exactly where the Trump red wave was, no doubt in my mind

Historical Key Indicators, President Trump Won Ohio by 8% Florida by 4%, as the (Fake News) suppression polls had it reversed

Took 97% of the 24 Bellwether counties, never seen before in history, President Trump smashed all historical voting records

You bet it was a red wave, stolen in criminal fraud and corruption
 

Roughsoul1991

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I understand your point of view ... however I am more persuaded that our primary role is to spread the Gospel and then the result will be people living under grace as planned by God.

Tell me do you think adulterers and homosexuals should be put in jail?

Where do we draw the line?
Spreading the gospel is the 1st priority. Everything else second.

Well in regulating morality. To what degree does adultery or LGBT hurt society?

You weigh the damage then draw the line.
 

Truth7t7

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USA is not Israel.
And the New Testament is not the Old Testament.
As I explained before imposing your will on others is not the Great Commission
This is actually antithetical to the Gospel.
Gods will is to have a Government to (Punish) evildoers

The Democratic party and Biden/Harris supports and defends (Evildoers)

Killing the innocent unborn (Abortion) Evil

Defund the police, cashless bail, (Evil)

Same Sex Marriage (Evil)

1 Peter 2:13-15KJV
13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
15 For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
 

Truth7t7

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Spreading the gospel is the 1st priority. Everything else second.

Well in regulating morality. To what degree does adultery or LGBT hurt society?

You weigh the damage then draw the line.
In California, the homosexual agenda has moved in public elementary schools, to mandate text books and training on homosexuality?

Using taxpayer dollars to mandate teaching that opposes biblical Christian teachings?

Just One Example
 
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Spreading the gospel is the 1st priority. Everything else second.

Well in regulating morality. To what degree does adultery or LGBT hurt society?

You weigh the damage then draw the line.
Damage to others requires proof and we are speaking about a large, not very homogeneous population.
 

Truth7t7

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I'll prepare the anti-communist posters.

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Ironic. They called the Red Scare a communist witch hunt. Yet communists working as spies had reached high powerful positions in our government. The CIA was in full investigation mode to uncover the traitors.

Then came the communist/ socialist homegrown movements to take over public education or disrupt the system like Black Panther or Weather Underground movements.
I strongly believe the Dominion/Smartmatic voting system put Obama in office?

This voting system has been in operation within the US since 2005, since Dominions acquisition of "Sequoia" who controlled the US market in voting machines and tabulation?

Obama 2008-2012? Dominion/Smartmatic
 

Truth7t7

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Absolutely agree.

I think people's brains' get scrubbed or something when they enter the land of disinformation.

People go on about Communism, I am absolutely and completely convinced this is quite dangerous... first we have the

predecessors of Alex Jones, David Ike et. al and now all of their minions.
You talk about "Disinformation" and refer directly in bias to (Alex Jones, David Ike)?

Do you believe "Disinformation" in lies is part of the liberal left's CNN, MSNBC, New York Times, Washington Post, for quick mention?
 
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