Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"
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The reason why many people are impressed by such people as John Calvin ect is because we all want easy answers to difficult concepts. Along comes a theologian who seems to have it all figured out for us with a step by step system. Then people adopt some if not all of it and fail to arrive at their own conclusions from the scriptures.
19But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22¶Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
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20Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22¶Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
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Yes God foreknew that through these means they who get in him will be glorified. But you think it means ' God saw who would believe ahead of time ( in eternity past ) in his mind ,therefore sent some form of grace to this selected one and caused through some partial regeneration ,enabling to believe or reject the gospel. But why add that, because God knew he would not resist and surely doesn't waste time sending grace to someone he knows wont believe . Essentially you believe in the classic Arminian conditional election . Which is just as unbiblical as its counterpart ' unconditional election. Both positions derive from the same faulty Agustinian pot .
So he only foreknew Means, he did not foreknow individuals? So he had no idea that he was going to adopt you and me until we believed? That is limited knowledge friend. And if he did knowThat he was going to adopt you and me, then were we chosen and predestinated. God is not an illogical being, that he should know something as infallible fact yet not choose it