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To that I have responded that they themselves can NOT understand the KJV and I have added that if they disagree, please tell me what 2 Cor. 6:12 says in the KJV:
2Co 6:12 Ye are not straitened in us, but ye are straitened in your own bowels.
2Co 6:13 Now for a recompence in the same, (I speak as unto my children,) be ye also enlarged.

This is what the KJV is saying.

2Co 6:12 You are not put on the straight and narrow path by us, but you are put on the straight and narrow path because your GUT INSTINCT tells you to.

2Co 6:13 Now as payment for getting on the straight and narrow you are increased.
 

John146

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One of their first statements: "The most obvious reason why the KJV should NOT be used in our day is it is too hard to understand."

This shows their lack of intelligence from the start. The KJV hard to understand? The KJV is at a 5th grade reading level. If one comes across a word that is unfamiliar...study! Study to shew thyself approved unto God!

 

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ok, so question for you. i read the kjv "only". does that disqualify my christianity and beliefs ? or, do the watered - down, copyright translations "qualify" me, as a christian ?
I love the KJV and have for many decades. With that said, any debate or argument rises or falls on its factual content. I love to research various topics and the “Not copyrighted” point in most KJV debates is always flouted.

I will post this bit of an article that surmises what I learned long ago. It’s not quite true.

The KJV And Royal Patents

When the KJV was printed, the United States' Constitution's "copyright clause" did not yet exist. Copyright Law wasn't a thing. But that doesn't mean that pre-cursory intellectual property rights didn't exist. The first edition of the KJV was printed with the Latin words, "cum privilegio” or “with privilege” at the bottom of its title page for the New Testament (Viewable here, or see the image on the left). This was the common practice to identify the royal "privilege" of printing. The Barkers as royal printers held the printing rights of the Crown or the "Privilege" of printing it, at least initially. And they had a financially beneficial monopoly on printing it. Alister McGrath explains,



"The English book trade was regulated by the Stationers' Company. As printing was permitted only at four centers—London, York, Oxford, and Cambridge—until 1695, regulation of the trade was not especially difficult. The printing of Bibles, however, was seen as a matter of particular importance, and was subject to additional regulations. Since the time of Henry VIII, Bibles printed within England by official sanction—such as Matthew's Bible, the Great Bible, and the Bishops' Bible—were subject to a trade monopoly. The monarch granted a “privilege” to favored subjects allowing them a monopoly on the production of certain types of Bible—an honor or favor usually indicated with the words cum privilegio on the title page of the Bible in question. The crown, in turn, received a proportion of the “royalty” paid to the holder of the privilege."
 

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I completely agree with that but I believe that happened at the Resurrection.
We agree on something! Well praise the Lord!

Now... if the NASB says something completely different than the KJV, how did we come to the same conclusions about the meaning of the text? :unsure:
 

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ok, so question for you. i read the kjv "only". does that disqualify my christianity and beliefs ? or, do the watered - down, copyright translations "qualify" me, as a christian ?
By these comments you disqualify yourself from reasoned discussion.

Next time you come in firing your guns, make sure they aren't loaded with blanks.
 
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We agree on something! Well praise the Lord!

Now... if the NASB says something completely different than the KJV, how did we come to the same conclusions about the meaning of the text? :unsure:
Probably because of your ability to read between the lines. :)
 

John146

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You just can't admit the truth, can you?
Is the following a true statement knowing that there are numerous sons of God throughout Scripture? Was Jesus God's only son? If you leave out the word "begotten" the verse becomes false.

16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
 

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One of their first statements: "The most obvious reason why the KJV should NOT be used in our day is it is too hard to understand."

This shows their lack of intelligence from the start. The KJV hard to understand? The KJV is at a 5th grade reading level. If one comes across a word that is unfamiliar...study! Study to shew thyself approved unto God!

A grade 5th reading level in 17th century, aristocratic England perhaps.
 
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Is the following a true statement knowing that there are numerous sons of God throughout Scripture? Was Jesus God's only son? If you leave out the word "begotten" the verse becomes false.

16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.
Another ridiculous statement

if I say someone gave their only son, it means he only had one son, I do not have to add the word begotten to make it true

these kjvo cultists make arguments only they can see,
 
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A grade 5th reading level in 17th century, aristocratic England perhaps.
Amen

I grew up learning the kjv and most of the memory verses I used was in kjv, my father purchased me a NKJV when I was a teen, 10 years ago when my mom died, I recieves her KJV bible. One day I picked it up to read and was like wow, most kids today could not have the capacity to understand what is being said,
 

John146

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A grade 5th reading level in 17th century, aristocratic England perhaps.
Reading levels are according to the amount of words per sentence, length of thoughts and flow. The KJV is superior! And btw, the English used in the KJV was not even the English spoken of the day in 1611. The words were chosen for their correct manner of speech.
 

John146

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Amen

I grew up learning the kjv and most of the memory verses I used was in kjv, my father purchased me a NKJV when I was a teen, 10 years ago when my mom died, I recieves her KJV bible. One day I picked it up to read and was like wow, most kids today could not have the capacity to understand what is being said,
That's the fault of parents not the KJV. Don't blame the Bible, blame Spongebob. :)
 

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Amen

I grew up learning the kjv and most of the memory verses I used was in kjv, my father purchased me a NKJV when I was a teen, 10 years ago when my mom died, I recieves her KJV bible. One day I picked it up to read and was like wow, most kids today could not have the capacity to understand what is being said,
As poet as the KJV may sound, it's far from ideal for serious Bible study in the modern age.
 

John146

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As poet as the KJV may sound, it's far from ideal for serious Bible study in the modern age.
Are you saying we are dumber in the "modern age" and need the bible watered down for us?