The Jezebel spirit is a subject that has been popping up on many platforms lately. What should one do if one encounters an individual with such as flaw as this...
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I think for purposes of discussion you are going to have to define what a "Jezebel Spirit" is since I've seen the term used in a multitude of contexts each giving it very different meanings.
Ultimately, if you can't respond to someone civilly you need to not respond.
Ultimately, if you can't respond to someone civilly you need to not respond.
That article gave a thumbnail history about the person Jezebel, and had a topic about what defines a jezebel spirit, but it never did define what a Jezebel spirit is. All the article said on what a Jezebel spirit is, was that it is more insidious than other spirits and tears up a church from the inside. Those are not defining characteristics.
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According to what some pastors have told me, I have met a few throughout my life.
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TheIndianGirl
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I'm thinking of a powerful and beautiful woman, who is able to seduce a man into getting what she wants (primarily political goals) and in the process cause his downfall. The best thing to do is to avoid this type of woman.
I've always wondered, why (within the church community) has there been so much focus on a "Jezebel spirit", especially as an assumed separate entity?
I grew up in a church that did not assign various evil spirits to coordinating traits in people, but in my 20's, I went to an Assemblies of God church that taught about such things as the "Jezebel spirit" (and seemed to nearly assign demons to almost any circumstance.)
Why are there not assigned evil spirits to other women (or men, for that matter) of the Bible as well? For instance, why doesn't anyone talk about a Queen Vashti spirit (from the book of Esther, refusing to obey her husband's call to be put on display)?
And even more on point with the "Jezebel spirit", why doesn't anyone talk about an "Ahab spirit"? Petulant, moody, throws tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants, allowing himself to be lead by evil counsel, and no remorse about mowing anyone and everyone in his way.
This is more than enough fodder to shape up an evil entity in itself.
So why doesn't anyone discuss an ""Ahab spirit" as Jezebel's counterpart?
(I am not asking the OP in particular; I've just always wondered why so much attention has always been given to Jezebel and not to Ahab.)
I grew up in a church that did not assign various evil spirits to coordinating traits in people, but in my 20's, I went to an Assemblies of God church that taught about such things as the "Jezebel spirit" (and seemed to nearly assign demons to almost any circumstance.)
Why are there not assigned evil spirits to other women (or men, for that matter) of the Bible as well? For instance, why doesn't anyone talk about a Queen Vashti spirit (from the book of Esther, refusing to obey her husband's call to be put on display)?
And even more on point with the "Jezebel spirit", why doesn't anyone talk about an "Ahab spirit"? Petulant, moody, throws tantrums when he doesn't get what he wants, allowing himself to be lead by evil counsel, and no remorse about mowing anyone and everyone in his way.
This is more than enough fodder to shape up an evil entity in itself.
So why doesn't anyone discuss an ""Ahab spirit" as Jezebel's counterpart?
(I am not asking the OP in particular; I've just always wondered why so much attention has always been given to Jezebel and not to Ahab.)
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TheIndianGirl
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I do believe there is an anti-woman spin when "Jezebel spirit" is being discussed. It also begs the question, why don't men have more willpower to resist the Jezebel spirit? Why do they get a pass when they succumb to the powers of the Jezebel spirit? If people/pastors are broadening the term to include a lot of women in the group, that is a problem.
I'm guessing the reason would be the same as for Christians constantly talking about abortion and homosexuals, but never talking about grumbling, getting irritated, stealing copyrighted content online from their owners,...
For every Jezebel spirit there is an Ahab spirit counterpart....
Ive also read about the Mary spirit and a Martha Spirit.
Maybe Jezebel just gets all the attention.
Ive also read about the Mary spirit and a Martha Spirit.
Maybe Jezebel just gets all the attention.
Unless I'm missing something, the only place in Scripture I've personally read that mentions having a "X spirit" or "the spirit of X" is in 1 John. John wrote that anyone who does NOT confess that Christ Jesus has come in the flesh has the spirit of antichrist (or Antichrist, depending on translation).
Which is exactly why I've always wondered why so many churches seem to insist on making entire lesson plans, studies, and plans of actions regarding "The Jezebel Spirit" to begin with.
I'm not trying to derail or discredit the idea of the original post at all, I'm just wondering if anyone else has every questioned why churches came up with the idea of a separate evil entity that embodied Jezebel's personality in the first place.
I think the Jezebel spirit actually describes a form of narcissistic personality.
The long held beiief that a Jezebel is merely a promiscuous women may have missed the mark by a long shot.
The long held beiief that a Jezebel is merely a promiscuous women may have missed the mark by a long shot.
There is no such thing as a Jezebel spirit. The phrase Jezebel spirit is not in the Bible. The phrase Jezebel spirit is man-made and extra-biblical. In various Christian forums, I have noticed the word Jezebel or the phrase Jezebel Spirit being used whenever a woman says something that a particular type of man does not like or agree with. He will respond by calling the woman or women Jezebel. It's a very common tactic, even in the church community.
Jezebel and Ataliah were evil queens. The Bible tells us so. However, It’s like the those who like to label others as Jezebel conveniently forget that there is a whole dirty laundry list of evil, rebellious kings in the Bible. Evil kings who rebelled against God and led those under their authority (wives, children, and the entire nation) astray.
There are more evil kings mentioned in scripture than evil queens. Most of the kings of Israel were evil.
God promised King Jeroboam, the son of Nebat, a secure kingdom and a long lasting dynasty if he would trust the LORD, but Jeroboam didn't believe God would deliver on his promise. In order to achieve security, he abolished the national worship of the LORD and inaugurated the golden calf cult. Sexual immorality had long been part of calf worship. Jeroboam led the children of Israel into sin against God (1 Ki 11:25 - 14:20; 2 Ch 10:1 - 13:20). Jeroboam became the prototype of an evil king. Several kings who ruled after him followed his example and continued to lead the children of Israel into sin:
Jeroboam's son Nadab became king over Israel during the second year of the reign of King Asa over Judah. He reigned over Israel for two years, practicing what the LORD considered to be evil, living the way his father did, committing sins, and leading Israel to sin (1 Ki 15:25-26).
Later, a message came from the LORD to Hanani's son Jehu. It was directed to rebuke Baasha, and this is what it said: I raised you from the dirt to become Commander-in-Chief over my people Israel, but you've been living like Jeroboam, you've been leading my people Israel into sin, and you've been provoking me to anger with their sins (1 Ki 16:2).
When Zimri observed that the city had been captured, he retreated into the king's palace, set fire to the citadel, and died when the palace burned down around him because of the sins that he committed by doing what the LORD considered to be evil, living like Jeroboam did, and sinning so as to lead Israel into sin (1 Kings 16:18).
Omri practiced what the LORD considered to be evil, doing far more evil than anyone who had reigned before him. He lived just like Nebat's son Jeroboam, and by his sin he led Israel into sin, provoking the LORD God of Israel with their idolatry (1 Ki 16:25).
Ahab asked Elijah, "So you've found me, my enemy?" Elijah answered, "I found you. Because you sold yourself to do what the LORD considers evil. 21So I am going to bring evil on you. I will destroy your descendants. I will destroy every male in Ahab's [house], whether slave or freeman in Israel. 22 I will make your family like the family of Jeroboam (Nebat's son) and like the house of Baasha, son of Ahijah, because you made me furious. You led Israel to sin." (1 Ki 21:20-22)
Ahab's son Ahaziah became king over Israel in Samaria in the seventeenth year of King Jehoshaphat of Judah. He reigned for two years over Israel. He practiced what the Lord considered to be evil by living life like his father and mother did. He lived like Nebat's son Jeroboam, who led Israel into sin (1 Ki 22:51).
Jehoahaz son of Jehu began to rule over Israel in the twenty-third year of King Joash’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria seventeen years. 2 But he did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He followed the example of Jeroboam son of Nebat, continuing the sins that Jeroboam had led Israel to commit. 3 So the LORD was very angry with Israel, and he allowed King Hazael of Aram and his son Ben-hadad to defeat them repeatedly (2 Ki 13:1-3).
Jehoash son of Jehoahaz began to rule over Israel in the thirty-seventh year of King Joash’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria sixteen years. 11But he did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Ki 13:10-11).
Jeroboam II, the son of Jehoash, began to rule over Israel in the fifteenth year of King Amaziah’s reign in Judah. Jeroboam reigned in Samaria forty-one years. 24He did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Ki 14:23-24).
Zechariah son of Jeroboam II began to rule over Israel in the thirty-eighth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria six months. 9 Zechariah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight, as his ancestors had done. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:8-9).
Menahem son of Gadi began to rule over Israel in the thirty-ninth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria ten years. 18 But Menahem did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. During his entire reign, he refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:17-18).
Pekahiah son of Menahem began to rule over Israel in the fiftieth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria two years. 24But Pekahiah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:23-24).
Pekah son of Remaliah began to rule over Israel in the fifty-second year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria twenty years. 28But Pekah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:27-28).
Jezebel and Ataliah were absolutely wrong for their rebellion. Likewise, the evil kings listed in scripture were absolutely wrong for their rebellion against God and for leading those under their authority (wives, children and the entire nation of Israel) into sin and idolatry.
Most likely, you will not hear those who like to use the word Jezebel and phrase Jezebel to shame and reprimand others quoting scriptures about how the evil, rebellious kings of Israel abused their power and mislead those under their authority: wives, children and the entire nation.
As far shame goes, there is plenty shame to go around. ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).
Jezebel and Ataliah were evil queens. The Bible tells us so. However, It’s like the those who like to label others as Jezebel conveniently forget that there is a whole dirty laundry list of evil, rebellious kings in the Bible. Evil kings who rebelled against God and led those under their authority (wives, children, and the entire nation) astray.
There are more evil kings mentioned in scripture than evil queens. Most of the kings of Israel were evil.
God promised King Jeroboam, the son of Nebat, a secure kingdom and a long lasting dynasty if he would trust the LORD, but Jeroboam didn't believe God would deliver on his promise. In order to achieve security, he abolished the national worship of the LORD and inaugurated the golden calf cult. Sexual immorality had long been part of calf worship. Jeroboam led the children of Israel into sin against God (1 Ki 11:25 - 14:20; 2 Ch 10:1 - 13:20). Jeroboam became the prototype of an evil king. Several kings who ruled after him followed his example and continued to lead the children of Israel into sin:
Jeroboam's son Nadab became king over Israel during the second year of the reign of King Asa over Judah. He reigned over Israel for two years, practicing what the LORD considered to be evil, living the way his father did, committing sins, and leading Israel to sin (1 Ki 15:25-26).
Later, a message came from the LORD to Hanani's son Jehu. It was directed to rebuke Baasha, and this is what it said: I raised you from the dirt to become Commander-in-Chief over my people Israel, but you've been living like Jeroboam, you've been leading my people Israel into sin, and you've been provoking me to anger with their sins (1 Ki 16:2).
When Zimri observed that the city had been captured, he retreated into the king's palace, set fire to the citadel, and died when the palace burned down around him because of the sins that he committed by doing what the LORD considered to be evil, living like Jeroboam did, and sinning so as to lead Israel into sin (1 Kings 16:18).
Omri practiced what the LORD considered to be evil, doing far more evil than anyone who had reigned before him. He lived just like Nebat's son Jeroboam, and by his sin he led Israel into sin, provoking the LORD God of Israel with their idolatry (1 Ki 16:25).
Ahab asked Elijah, "So you've found me, my enemy?" Elijah answered, "I found you. Because you sold yourself to do what the LORD considers evil. 21So I am going to bring evil on you. I will destroy your descendants. I will destroy every male in Ahab's [house], whether slave or freeman in Israel. 22 I will make your family like the family of Jeroboam (Nebat's son) and like the house of Baasha, son of Ahijah, because you made me furious. You led Israel to sin." (1 Ki 21:20-22)
Ahab's son Ahaziah became king over Israel in Samaria in the seventeenth year of King Jehoshaphat of Judah. He reigned for two years over Israel. He practiced what the Lord considered to be evil by living life like his father and mother did. He lived like Nebat's son Jeroboam, who led Israel into sin (1 Ki 22:51).
Jehoahaz son of Jehu began to rule over Israel in the twenty-third year of King Joash’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria seventeen years. 2 But he did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He followed the example of Jeroboam son of Nebat, continuing the sins that Jeroboam had led Israel to commit. 3 So the LORD was very angry with Israel, and he allowed King Hazael of Aram and his son Ben-hadad to defeat them repeatedly (2 Ki 13:1-3).
Jehoash son of Jehoahaz began to rule over Israel in the thirty-seventh year of King Joash’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria sixteen years. 11But he did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Ki 13:10-11).
Jeroboam II, the son of Jehoash, began to rule over Israel in the fifteenth year of King Amaziah’s reign in Judah. Jeroboam reigned in Samaria forty-one years. 24He did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Ki 14:23-24).
Zechariah son of Jeroboam II began to rule over Israel in the thirty-eighth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria six months. 9 Zechariah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight, as his ancestors had done. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:8-9).
Menahem son of Gadi began to rule over Israel in the thirty-ninth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria ten years. 18 But Menahem did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. During his entire reign, he refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:17-18).
Pekahiah son of Menahem began to rule over Israel in the fiftieth year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria two years. 24But Pekahiah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:23-24).
Pekah son of Remaliah began to rule over Israel in the fifty-second year of King Uzziah’s reign in Judah. He reigned in Samaria twenty years. 28But Pekah did what was evil in the LORD’s sight. He refused to turn from the sins that Jeroboam son of Nebat had led Israel to commit (2 Kings 15:27-28).
Jezebel and Ataliah were absolutely wrong for their rebellion. Likewise, the evil kings listed in scripture were absolutely wrong for their rebellion against God and for leading those under their authority (wives, children and the entire nation of Israel) into sin and idolatry.
Most likely, you will not hear those who like to use the word Jezebel and phrase Jezebel to shame and reprimand others quoting scriptures about how the evil, rebellious kings of Israel abused their power and mislead those under their authority: wives, children and the entire nation.
As far shame goes, there is plenty shame to go around. ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God (Rom 3:23).
Personally, I have been taught about other spirits as well as this "Jezebel spirit" but I have to agree Jezebel seems to get most of the attention.
I was taught that the Jezebel spirit aims to over throw a male leader and since females should not lead males in a church, this is why emphasis was given to teaching about her traits. In order that the males would be able to identify any of these traits should they arise in any of the females and the females could be sure that they didn't possess these traits.
It's rare but I have seen people refer to other spirits in the same manner. Typically you have to provoke them to it, though, as they won't bring it up themselves.
Then you have people such as Bob Larson who takes it even further, declaring pretty much any negative as a spirit. Such as a spirit of smoking. And, of course, this often requires casting that spirit out of you, and usually over and over. Sometimes once a week.
When I first heard the Jezebel Spirit thing as a teen I immediately dismissed it (despite having been saved into an Assemblies of God church).
It also, to me, seems to grant rather grandiose power to a single minion by affecting seemingly billions of people at once. And a being that strong is still below Satan?
Typically I've viewed it as a great way to shirk responsibility for one's own actions. If every sin is the fault of a demon then you never do anything wrong, which is how many treat it, even if they don't see it that way.
And I've seen it on here. One guy asking for prayer essentially took zero responsibility and flat out blamed demons for everything. Even said demons were responsible for making him act violently.
