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If you have HEARING, these verses are telling us EXACTLY how God preserved his word from the day of Pentecost forward. The wonderful works of God is the bible.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Act 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.
Act 2:6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
Act 2:7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
Act 2:8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
Act 2:9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,
Act 2:10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
Act 2:11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.
In case you didn't know and/or haven't studied about how and where the newer translations got the texts that they translated from,,, Since the KJV was written, archeology has found older more original texts than KJV used.
20th & 21st century historians and linguists
Consider this, while the books help increase us in faith and knowledge faster, the substance of the truth about God is hidden in our hearts, and this knowledge is a priori.
When you read "murderer knows no God and is a liar", or "God is not a respecter of persons" or "His mercy endures forever", you don't need to go and check it or prove it, you already know it's true because it can't be different. It's already in you - the Spirit is just nodding, confirming/testifying of the truth as you read... for some questions it's more complicated but with some contemplation, even without reading the Bible, if you're honest you can get to the correct conclusion as to what is right.
A simple conclusion from all this: do these cultists actually have intent to pursue and promulgate what's true?
Thanks calibob, I am aware that there are older more CORRUPT copies of the originals. It's important to understand that there are two lines of manuscript out there and they disagree with one another. Both of those line ARE NOT copies of the inspired originals.
In Jeremiah 51:30 the mighty men of Babylon are "forborn to fight"(I assumed it meant they were born to fight) but it means they coward,hid, ceased ect. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah 51:30&version=KJV https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jeremiah/51-30.htm
In 1 Corinthians 13 "agape" is "charity" in the KJV https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 13&version=KJV but in the interlinear it is "love" https://biblehub.com/interlinear/1_corinthians/13.htm and again it is similar in that charity is a form of love(gifts,donations ect.) but it's something that as someone who has always use the KJV I had to bare in mind. The first Bible I read and still have is published in the late 1800's(pilgrims addition teachers KJV addition) that was my families bible.
Anyway though I agree with the "I would have to look it up" in what you said I across the years realized that irregardless of which translation I used in certain topics I try to "look it up" and look at what certain things mean,I would do that with any of the interpretations.
I've presented my case and I disagree with your view but we all have the right to believe what we want to believe.
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I haven't learned about the manuscripts yet. I have read F.F. Bruce book "Canonization of Scriptures" and need to read it a few more times to retain it. It is useful as a starting book on this subject.
I mean it's very similar to forbear, probably a past tense version of it. I use the dictionary often to understand what words mean. I also look at the etymology of the words.
In case you don't know or haven't studied how, when and where the newer translations came to be. Archeologists have found older, more complete and accurate translations than the Kings translators had to translate from. Historians and linguists are better educated and have a better understanding of the ancient languages also. You have, Confirmation bias.
"Confirmation bias is, the tendency to process information by looking for, or interpreting, information that is consistent with one’s existing beliefs. This biased approach to decision making is largely unintentional and often results in ignoring inconsistent information. Existing beliefs can include one’s expectations in a given situation and predictions about a particular outcome. People are especially likely to process information to support their own beliefs when the issue is highly important or self-relevant." co Britannica
It's a psychology term.
Act 2:4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
This happened in Acts, the SPIRIT gave utterance to the speaker. Give me one good reason God can not or will not do this for us today.
This happened in Acts, the SPIRIT gave utterance to the speaker. Give me one good reason God can not or will not do this for us today.
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It would be impossible to arrive at authorial intent by researching the meaning of an English word from the KJV as if Paul had originally used that word, and not examining first, the meaning of the Greek word Paul actually wrote (or spoke if his amanuensis was writing for him)
If you say that you cannot trust that the original Greek word was the one in the copy of the manuscript that the KJV scholars used to translate from then how can you trust the English word the KJV scholars used, since they were going by a Greek word in a copy.
You make no sense when you put trust in the KJV English over the Greek that was used by the KJV scholars. If you are thinking that the KJV scholars were inspired to write a new copy in English and it became the new original then this would be a fanatical cult like reasoning that cannot be reasoned with and I wash my hands of it.
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Yes, agreed. The original bible, Hebrew and Greek, and translations that do the best job.
Yep if you jump back in time in English they had an long "S" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s so things just change over over the years. I'm just glad everyone has (a bible) and believes in Jesus and other than that the "best,favorite ect. interpretations might all need to be "looked up" on the different sources on the www but even then without the autographs were looking at copies of copies of copies.
Prove to me that the older manuscripts are more accurate. If you can prove it 100% I'll consider it.
Why are you so convinced that KJV is the only true and correct translation. Dosn't the fact that the apostles & disciples were whipped, stoned & crucified rather than submitting the orders of, bow, kneel or salute their leaders convince you that obedience to leaders isn't always the rightous and godly thing to do? Whenever their is a conflict between Gods laws and mans law isn't passive resistance the correct thing to do?
I can't prove that any more than you can prove they are not. Thats why I compare them with each other. I'm grateful now to have a computer. I no longer need a stack of different bibles.
Why do think God chose to leave believers in a state of confusion over his word, not knowing which part is right and which part is wrong? Why not just give us his inerrant word?