Who will Win

[posthuman]

Biden/Harris Christian Faith?

Before or after they watch the unborn being torn from the mothers womb (Abortion) that they support?

Perhaps you have found that Satan is a christian also

President Trump opposes kling the unborn, hes the most pro-life president America has seen

P S. I didn't vote for a pastor of the church, but for a man to run the country

if you read the articles i posted, maybe you could specifically address something in them. i only put them as examples of something similar i am looking for from 'the chosen one (sic)' on his own faith.

if you can help, i'd be appreciative. if you can't point me to a statement of faith from Trump, i don't know what your intent is in responding.

 

[Solemateleft]

where can i read a statement Trump talking about his faith? is he on record stating a belief that Jesus is the Christ?

Sounds like the makings for another very profound thread... But on this thread - it is merely a distraction from the bigger picture...

The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend...

Biden is a Cradle-Catholic in name only... Pence trumps Biden's Catholic/Christian faith every day of the week from Sunday...

Bigger Picture: This thread and others related to the US National Presidential Election have never been about what someone SAYS about their FAITH...
Biden says he is Catholic - but states that he does not represent nor impose his beliefs upon his constituents... and gets a pass...

Bigger Picture: it's never been about what Trump says or believes in; what matters is what he does and what he stands-for and AGAINST... What matters is what he DOES... AND his list of accomplishments - if you are willing to look and listen at credible sources and the facts of his accomplishments - like a good businessman (non-Politician) - he actually gets things done...

Feel free to start another thread - as you raise an intriguing point for discussion, but this thread is focused upon the election and who will win?
Those who stand for Good or those who stand for everything that is not Good for this Country...

 

[cv5]

Biden/Harris Christian Faith?

Before or after they watch the unborn being torn from the mothers womb (Abortion) that they support?

Perhaps you have found that Satan is a christian also

President Trump opposes kling the unborn, hes the most pro-life president America has seen

P S. I didn't vote for a pastor of the church, but for a man to run the country

Both Biden and Harris are sleazy scum of the earth dirtbags. As far as character & morals go they are the pits......the worst of the worst. Those are the two most revolting politicians I have ever seen in my entire life.

Contrast that with Trump's family. His children all of them are fine upstanding patriotic Americans of the best sort. His in-laws & extended family are by all accounts free of scandals and disgusting habits and drugs.

Biden and Harris are sewer trash. Godforsaken vermin both of them.

 

[EleventhHour]

the same thing goes on in the BDF. it doesn't matter how long you reason with some people, how many scriptures you show them, how intricately you dismantle the arguments they've been taught to make, nor how often you do it, they'll just keep repeating and teaching bad doctrine.

this is the way of people. we're not great.

i mean the biggest thread in the BDF is 'not by works' -- a literal quote from scripture describing salvation. but look at how nay thousands and thousands of pages of people arguing against it are there, claiming to be speaking from religious authority while directly contending that what the Bible clearly says is false.

Jesus Christ, God Himself manifest in the flesh, walked around Israel for 3 years healing every disease, casting out every demon, raising the dead, broadcasting wisdom and divine power day in and day out, and the majority of the people called Him "fake news"

whaddayagonnado **sigh**

Agree, I think that it is the outside influences that tell people what to think are the problem, being able to step out side of ones'

internal biases, emotional attachments, insecurities and thoroughly analyze the opposing view is what is necessary, unfortunately

most people like to be spoon fed what to believe and make little to no effort to test it against opposing views.

Systemic electoral fraud and virus hoax beliefs being two prime examples.

 

[EleventhHour]

Both Biden and Harris are sleazy scum of the earth dirtbags. As far as character & morals go they are the pits......the worst of the worst. Those are the two most revolting politicians I have ever seen in my entire life.

Contrast that with Trump's family. His children all of them are fine upstanding patriotic Americans of the best sort. His in-laws & extended family are by all accounts free of scandals and disgusting habits and drugs.

Biden and Harris are sewer trash. Godforsaken vermin both of them.

I guess the call to love our enemies does not exist in your Bible?

You have displayed your heart for all to see and it ain't good.

 

[Truth7t7]

https://www.jonathanbrentner.com/ht...019/10/11/the-departure-of-2-thessalonians-23

The Wycliffe Bible (1384), Tyndale Bible (1526), Coverdale Bible (1535), Cranmer Bible (1539), Breeches Bible (1576), Beza Bible (1583), and Geneva Bible (1608) all translated “apostasia” as a physical departure.

Your claim is false, the bible's referenced (Departure) from the faith, your claim this represents a physical departure is pinocchio's nose is growing again

By all means post the notes in the margins of these bibles, waiting?

 

[gb9]

no, mate. don't keep perpetuating this 'us vs them' mentality.

i would have voted for Sanders, to be honest, because Sanders seems very honest, humanitarian & not in anyone's pocket.
and i voted 3rd party the last two elections instead because Trump is an obvious vain demagogue liar & Biden seems little more than an uninspiring figurehead for the DNC riding along on a wave of 'anyone but Trump, please, anyone'

i don't agree with a lot of the things Sanders wants to do or believes in. but he was the the most respectable of all the lot. it's a shame i couldn't vote for anyone i actually thought would be a good president -- i was not given that choice.

and this is why i left the cult of trump-

the inability to criticize trump for anything, or say anything negative.

our gov. here in ga. opened things up, steadfastly left things open in the pressure of trump's own covid task force to return to shelter in place. ( i have several friends in the service industry who would be in a bad way if not for our gov,)

to watch trump attack gov. kemp, who has been a steadfast supporter, is sad indeed.

so, how can trump be against lockdowns in speeches , while at the same time HIS taskforce is supporting them??

cult of trump has no answer....

 

[posthuman]

while we're on the subject of faith ((as tho we are actually on a Christian forum, wow!))
. . . what are y'alls thoughts on the baptist preacher & successor to MLK who is running for senate in GA?

https://baptistnews.com/article/raphael-warnock-heir-to-mlks-pulpit-heads-for-runoff-for-georgia-senate-seat/#.X8xPNdhKh3g

 

[cv5]

WTPC Calls for Trump to Declare Limited Martial Law

https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/WTPC-Urges-Limited-Martial-Law

Akron, OH: Today, Tom Zawistowski, President of the TEA Party affiliated We the People Convention (WTPC) and Executive Director of the Portage County TEA Party, published a full page ad in the Washington Times newspaper demanding that President Trump Invoke limited Martial law in order to allow the U.S. Military to oversee a new free and fair federal election if Legislators, Courts and the Congress do not follow the Constitution.

Zawistowski said, "We wanted to express our concerns to the President, to the legislators, courts and Congress that We the People will NOT cede our exclusive Constitutional right to elect our Representatives to judges, lawyers, courts, Governors, Secretary’s of State, Congress, corrupt election officials and local politicians, the corrupt media - or Leftist threats of violence! It is OUR EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to elect our President and that sacred right has been infringed by the massive, planned, illegal election fraud conducted by corrupt Democrat/Socialist Party operatives across our nation to steal our vote. We will NOT stand for it."

 

[posthuman]

Agree, I think that it is the outside influences that tell people what to think are the problem, being able to step out side of ones'

internal biases, emotional attachments, insecurities and thoroughly analyze the opposing view is what is necessary, unfortunately

most people like to be spoon fed what to believe and make little to no effort to test it against opposing views.

Systemic electoral fraud and virus hoax beliefs being two prime examples.

i'm a mathematician, as most of you know. we like to abstract things and talk about congruencies between stuff that seems unrelated.

all week i've been thinking about how eerily similar this all is to the whole 'flat earth' thing. i'm like, these are two instances of the same problem.

 

[cv5]

and this is why i left the cult of trump-

the inability to criticize trump for anything, or say anything negative.

our gov. here in ga. opened things up, steadfastly left things open in the pressure of trump's own covid task force to return to shelter in place. ( i have several friends in the service industry who would be in a bad way if not for our gov,)

to watch trump attack gov. kemp, who has been a steadfast supporter, is sad indeed.

so, how can trump be against lockdowns in speeches , while at the same time HIS taskforce is supporting them??

cult of trump has no answer....

Trump is demanding lockdowns? That's news to me. All I ever heard is Trump say he wants to reopen the economy and eliminate all lockdowns.

Provide me some links because I've never heard of this. Fauci might be demanding lockdowns. But Fauci does not speak for Trump they are basically completely contrary to one another. Trump wants HCQ, zinc etc. I honestly think he thinks COVID hysteria is a scam and a hoax.

I think he would fire Fauchi tomorrow and completely ignore COVID. He would probably do the Sweden model and just open everything up. But he can't because politically it's fatal. Because Americans by and large are such sniveling wimps in this day and age. Don't take that as an insult because Canadians are far far worse sniveling wimps. Frankly I find such cowardice disturbing.

 

[gb9]

WTPC Calls for Trump to Declare Limited Martial Law

https://wethepeopleconvention.org/articles/WTPC-Urges-Limited-Martial-Law

Akron, OH: Today, Tom Zawistowski, President of the TEA Party affiliated We the People Convention (WTPC) and Executive Director of the Portage County TEA Party, published a full page ad in the Washington Times newspaper demanding that President Trump Invoke limited Martial law in order to allow the U.S. Military to oversee a new free and fair federal election if Legislators, Courts and the Congress do not follow the Constitution.

Zawistowski said, "We wanted to express our concerns to the President, to the legislators, courts and Congress that We the People will NOT cede our exclusive Constitutional right to elect our Representatives to judges, lawyers, courts, Governors, Secretary’s of State, Congress, corrupt election officials and local politicians, the corrupt media - or Leftist threats of violence! It is OUR EXCLUSIVE RIGHT to elect our President and that sacred right has been infringed by the massive, planned, illegal election fraud conducted by corrupt Democrat/Socialist Party operatives across our nation to steal our vote. We will NOT stand for it."

martial law is fine as long as trump does it...


cult of trump.

i rest my case.

 

[gb9]

Trump is demanding lockdowns? That's news to me. All I ever heard is Trump say he wants to reopen the economy and eliminate all lockdowns.

Provide me some links because I've never heard of this. Fauci might be demanding lockdowns. But Fauci does not speak for Trump they are basically completely contrary to one another. Trump wants HCQ, zinc etc. I honestly think he thinks COVID hysteria is a scam and a hoax.

I think he would fire Fauchi tomorrow and completely ignore COVID. He would probably do the Sweden model and just open everything up. But he can't because politically it's fatal. Because Americans by and large are such sniveling wimps in this day and age. Don't take that as an insult because Canadians are far far worse sniveling wimps. Frankly I find such cowardice disturbing.

i did not say trump.

i said the white house task force has been pressuring gov. kemp to do another s.i.p.

who is IN the white house??

 

[cv5]

martial law is fine as long as trump does it...


cult of trump.

i rest my case.

I'm fine with it if you can get rid of the communists, traitors and pedophiles. By the way I would urge you to read entire article because it says things about what President Lincoln did that is going to curl your hair. Lincoln had hundreds and hundreds of mass military arrests and threw him in military prison for years. In fact he had the chief justice of the Supreme Court arrested and thrown in jail LOL!

To me this sounds exactly like something Trump would do. So stay tuned it's going to get exciting.

 

[Solemateleft]

Trump is demanding lockdowns? That's news to me. All I ever heard is Trump say he wants to reopen the economy and eliminate all lockdowns.

Provide me some links because I've never heard of this. Fauci might be demanding lockdowns. But Fauci does not speak for Trump they are basically completely contrary to one another. Trump wants HCQ, zinc etc. I honestly think he thinks COVID hysteria is a scam and a hoax.

I think he would fire Fauchi tomorrow and completely ignore COVID. He would probably do the Sweden model and just open everything up. But he can't because politically it's fatal. Because Americans by and large are such sniveling wimps in this day and age. Don't take that as an insult because Canadians are far far worse sniveling wimps. Frankly I find such cowardice disturbing.

He said nothing of the sort during his Rally Speech in Georgia tonight... Quite the opposite...

 

[gb9]

Trump is demanding lockdowns? That's news to me. All I ever heard is Trump say he wants to reopen the economy and eliminate all lockdowns.

Provide me some links because I've never heard of this. Fauci might be demanding lockdowns. But Fauci does not speak for Trump they are basically completely contrary to one another. Trump wants HCQ, zinc etc. I honestly think he thinks COVID hysteria is a scam and a hoax.

I think he would fire Fauchi tomorrow and completely ignore COVID. He would probably do the Sweden model and just open everything up. But he can't because politically it's fatal. Because Americans by and large are such sniveling wimps in this day and age. Don't take that as an insult because Canadians are far far worse sniveling wimps. Frankly I find such cowardice disturbing.

and, you know i have stood against 11th hour and the rest of the covid cowards.

this is what i mean-trump speaks against lockdowns, but his taskforce, whom he could disband at anytime, is pushing for them...

 

[cv5]

i did not say trump.

i said the white house task force has been pressuring gov. kemp to do another s.i.p.

who is IN the white house??

And there you go. Too many people are in the habit for blaming Trump for the incompetency stupidity and complicity of his underlings. I'm sure Trump would fire every single one of these losers if he could afford it politically. He could care less about COVID.

 

[cv5]

and, you know i have stood against 11th hour and the rest of the covid cowards.

this is what i mean-trump speaks against lockdowns, but his taskforce, whom he could disband at anytime, is pushing for them...

He can't disband them quite yet. Politics dear fellow politics. Tricky business.

 

[gb9]

I'm fine with it if you can get rid of the communists, traitors and pedophiles. By the way I would urge you to read entire article because it says things about what President Lincoln did that is going to curl your hair. Lincoln had hundreds and hundreds of mass military arrests and threw him in military prison for years. In fact he had the chief justice of the Supreme Court arrested and thrown in jail LOL!

To me this sounds exactly like something Trump would do. So stay tuned it's going to get exciting.

as a proud southerner, i know what lincoln did, how he cared little about freeing slaves until it became a political advantage for him....

 

[cv5]

He said nothing of the sort during his Rally Speech in Georgia tonight... Quite the opposite...

I didn't watch the whole thing. Was he saying that all of the States and regions need to re-open for business and get back to work and restart the economy again?