If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

[bud62]

The law is written on our hearts.

I will put my laws on their hearts, and write them on their minds... Romans 10:16b

WHAT LAW are you talking about???

 

[bud62]

The sabbath was for the Jews under the Old Covenant, why would anybody under the covenant of grace want to put themselves under the bondage that the Jews were under?

The ten commandments are the laws that are wrote on our hearts, and are our part of the new covenant, by breaking the commandments , we are breaking our covenant with GOD,

 

[Magenta]

WHAT LAW are you talking about???

Romans 13:10

 

[bud62]

except Sabbath was never commanded for gentiles.

all you judeaizers ignore that...

The 4th Commandment says remember the Sabbath, that means that it go's back to CREATION, And they where Gentiles

 

[mailmandan]

The sabbath was for the Jews under the Old Covenant, why would anybody under the covenant of grace want to put themselves under the bondage that the Jews were under?

Exactly!

Exodus 35:1 - Then Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said to them, “These are the words which the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. 3 You shall kindle no fire throughout your dwellings on the sabbath day.”

 

[bud62]

Romans 13:10

The commandments ARE love, the first 4 are love to GOD, And the last 6 are love to MAN

 

[Magenta]

The 4th Commandment says remember the Sabbath, that means that it go's back to CREATION, And they where Gentiles

There was no Sabbath law at creation.

 

[bud62]

Romans 13:10

This is the ten commandment laws LOOK AT it closer
The commandments ARE love, the first 4 are love to GOD, And the last 6 are love to MAN , and this is the ten commandments that he is talking about

 

[KJV1611]

The ten commandments are the laws that are wrote on our hearts, and are our part of the new covenant, by breaking the commandments , we are breaking our covenant with GOD,

You see that's where you've got it wrong. The law that God gave to the Jews was the law between LOST JEWS and God, that law has nothing to do with the laws of God wrote in our hearts.

 

[bud62]

There was no Sabbath law at creation.

you need to go back and read Genesis

 

[Magenta]

The commandments ARE love, the first 4 are love to GOD, And the last 6 are love to MAN

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one He has sent.”

According to law keepers, the LORD of the Sabbath broke their Sabbath laws.

Acts 13:38-39

 

[KJV1611]

Exactly!

Exodus 35:1 - Then Moses gathered all the congregation of the children of Israel together, and said to them, “These are the words which the Lord has commanded you to do: 2 Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a sabbath of rest to the Lord. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death. 3 You shall kindle no fire throughout your dwellings on the sabbath day.”

I'm starting to learn that most people don't understand that the covenant of grace was given well before the Old Covenant was given to the Jews.

 

[Magenta]

you need to go back and read Genesis

Why? Saying God rested on the seventh day is not a law. You lack understanding, make up rules, and contradict yourself.

 

[mailmandan]

There was no Sabbath law at creation.

Amen! And although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Nowhere in scripture is there any hint that sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

The word "sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a sabbath rest, a holy sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning. Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant. (Colossians 2:16-17)

 

[bud62]

You see that's where you've got it wrong. The law that God gave to the Jews was the law between LOST JEWS and God, that law has nothing to do with the laws of God wrote in our hearts.

A covenant has 2 parts, GOD's PART ,and our part, and our part is keeping GOD's commandments

 

[gb9]

The 4th Commandment says remember the Sabbath, that means that it go's back to CREATION, And they where Gentiles

Psalms 147- God gave the Law to Israel only.

i will take what Scripture says over man's ( yours) opinions.

 

[KJV1611]

Amen! Although God's rest on the seventh day (Genesis 2:3) did foreshadow a future sabbath law, there is no Biblical record of the sabbath before the children of Israel left the land of Egypt. Nowhere in scripture is there any hint that sabbath keeping was practiced from Adam to Moses.

The word "sabbath" first appears in Exodus 16:23 - Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord has said: ‘Tomorrow is a sabbath rest, a holy sabbath to the Lord. Bake what you will bake today, and boil what you will boil; and lay up for yourselves all that remains, to be kept until morning. Sabbath keeping with all it's rules and regulations, was part of a covenant with Israel (Exodus 16:23, 29; 31:12-18; 35:1-3; Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3, 32; Numbers 15:32-36; 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13; Amos 8:5; Nehemiah 10:31) that is not binding on Christians under the new covenant. (Colossians 2:16-17)

The 7th day was actually a foreshadow of our rest in Christ, but I know you know that.

 

[Magenta]

The 7th day was actually a foreshadow of our rest in Christ, but I know you know that.

It's the Sabbatarians who do no understand that. According to them, we are to work
six days a week and rest only one LOLOLOLOLOLOL or else we are breaking the law of God.

I do not work for my salvation at all

Jesus said it was finished. I rest in what He accomplished on my behalf

 

[KJV1611]

A covenant has 2 parts, GOD's PART ,and our part, and our part is keeping GOD's commandments

Are you a Jew living in Old Testament times? No, you're not. That covenant was between UNBELIEVING JEWS and God. Besides that, that Old Covenant expired 2000 years ago. The Jews are now under the covenant of Grace, a NEW covenant for them, but not for the rest of the world.

 

[mailmandan]

The 7th day was actually a foreshadow of our rest in Christ, but I know you know that.

Which brings us to Hebrews 4:9 - So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. (NASB) Notice that the Greek word "sabbatismos" here is used no where else in the Bible!

W. E. Vine, Greek Dictionary points out:

Sabbath rest (4520) (sabbatismos from sabbatízo = keep the Sabbath) literally means a keeping of a sabbath or a keeping of days of rest. It is used in this passage not in the literal sense (meaning to keep a specific day, the "Sabbath" day) but to describe a period of rest for God’s people which is modeled after and is a fulfillment of the traditional Sabbath.

SABBATISMOS a Sabbath-keeping, is used in Heb. 4:9, R.V., "a Sabbath rest," A.V. marg., "a keeping of a Sabbath" (akin to sabbatizoµ, to keep the Sabbath, used, e.g., in Ex. 16:30, not in the N.T.); here the Sabbath-keeping is the perpetual Sabbath rest to be enjoyed uninterruptedly by believers in their fellowship with the Father and the Son, in contrast to the weekly Sabbath under the Law. Because this Sabbath rest is the rest of God Himself, its full fruition is yet future, though believers now enter into it. In whatever way they enter into divine “rest,” that which they enjoy is involved in an indissoluble relation with God. (Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words)

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