1 John 5:3 For this is what love for God is: to keep his commandments.

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Can we work for the Lord with carefree joy, or must we be very cautious of the pitfalls of work?

Many posts list many pitfalls, like working for salvation, or working to keep salvation. Even Christ in the sermon on the mount pointed out the pitfall of obedience without love, telling us commandments must include our heart. The story of the Samaritan and the Pharisee showed the commandment to keep the Sabbath must include the basic commandment: to love.

Is it OK to learn of these things, then simply do all we can to obey, and do it with the love that conquers fear? I think so, do you?
 
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Blik said:
Can we work for the Lord with carefree joy, or must we be very cautious of the pitfalls of work?

Many posts list many pitfalls, like working for salvation, or working to keep salvation. Even Christ in the sermon on the mount pointed out the pitfall of obedience without love, telling us commandments must include our heart. The story of the Samaritan and the Pharisee showed the commandment to keep the Sabbath must include the basic commandment: to love.

Is it OK to learn of these things, then simply do all we can to obey, and do it with the love that conquers fear? I think so, do you?
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Just remember what the two commandments are, and you are good to go!:)

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22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
22:39 And the second [is] like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
 
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1 COR 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear [it].
If WE wait up on the LORD HE will MAKE AWAY to escape without US SINNING
Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].
6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
 
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Blik said:
Can we work for the Lord with carefree joy, or must we be very cautious of the pitfalls of work?

Many posts list many pitfalls, like working for salvation, or working to keep salvation. Even Christ in the sermon on the mount pointed out the pitfall of obedience without love, telling us commandments must include our heart. The story of the Samaritan and the Pharisee showed the commandment to keep the Sabbath must include the basic commandment: to love.

Is it OK to learn of these things, then simply do all we can to obey, and do it with the love that conquers fear? I think so, do you?
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The doing has already been done at Calvary. I am crucified with Christ. Therefore, if Christ is a law keeper than I am a law keeper. All laws are kept by the Holy Spirit. All commandments are kept by the Holy Spirit. All works are produced and birth only by the Holy Spirit. This is the faith we must renew our minds daily with and receive all the benefits from Calvary, the resurrection life. Take up your cross.
 
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Blik said:
Can we work for the Lord with carefree joy, or must we be very cautious of the pitfalls of work?

Many posts list many pitfalls, like working for salvation, or working to keep salvation. Even Christ in the sermon on the mount pointed out the pitfall of obedience without love, telling us commandments must include our heart. The story of the Samaritan and the Pharisee showed the commandment to keep the Sabbath must include the basic commandment: to love.

Is it OK to learn of these things, then simply do all we can to obey, and do it with the love that conquers fear? I think so, do you?
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1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

In the Tribulation, yes, you need to keep the commandments to ensure your salvation, one of them is not taking the mark of the beast.
 
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I will say this. You never give up trying to insert the Law of the Old Testament into the Law of the New Covenant. Still, being a one trick pony will eventually catch up with you.

Old Testament: The Law of Moses

New Testament: The Law of Faith

Go ahead though, and keep trying to lead people away from Grace and bind them again to the Law of Moses. But be careful. Should you actually succeed in leading a soul away from the saving grace of God, and binding them with the chains of guilt which the Law does: you may be held accountable for them come Judgement.
 
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John 1:17
“For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
 
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I will say this. You never give up trying to insert the Law of the Old Testament into the Law of the New Covenant. Still, being a one trick pony will eventually catch up with you.

Old Testament: The Law of Moses

New Testament: The Law of Faith

Go ahead though, and keep trying to lead people away from Grace and bind them again to the Law of Moses. But be careful. Should you actually succeed in leading a soul away from the saving grace of God, and binding them with the chains of guilt which the Law does: you may be held accountable for them come Judgement.
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GALATIONS 3:19 Wherefore then [serveth] the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; [and it was] ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
The ten commandments are the Law of GOD, YESUAH wrote them with HIS own finger, HE didn't even let Moses write them. And probable because that people would say that they were Moses's LAWS, When GOD wrote them WITH HIS FINGER so we would KNOW that they are HIS LAWS, and not Moses's LAW AT ALL, all Moses done was delivered them to Israel, FROM GOD!!!
The sacrificial Laws that the BIBLE Says That was Added, is the hand writings Of Moses, and it says that they were added because they were breaking GOD laws. is what it is telling us.
GOD'S ten commandments go all the way back to Creation, We couldn't have had A whole world that was drowned for sinning, with out the LAW OF GOD, This in the red above show us GOD laws AND Moses laws that was added because they were transgressing GOD laws, and that they was only till YESUAH came, then the hand writings of Moses was nailed to the CROSS, BUT only the ones that was against against,
Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
2:15 [And] having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a show of them openly, triumphing over them in it. and the ten commandments was not wrote with the hand of Moses, BUT the finger of GOD, and that means that they are not hand writing at all, but just GOD finger, and A finger is not the hand !!!
And the GRACE of GOD is to for give us the laws that we HAVE committed, and not the right to keep breaking HIS LAWS.
 
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p_rehbein said:


I will say this. You never give up trying to insert the Law of the Old Testament into the Law of the New Covenant. Still, being a one trick pony will eventually catch up with you.

Old Testament: The Law of Moses

New Testament: The Law of Faith

Go ahead though, and keep trying to lead people away from Grace and bind them again to the Law of Moses. But be careful. Should you actually succeed in leading a soul away from the saving grace of God, and binding them with the chains of guilt which the Law does: you may be held accountable for them come Judgement.
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Does the law oppose grace? Scripture tells us it leads people to grace, you are threatening. Please back up your threats with scripture.

If it is only something I will be judged for in a negative way to say there is joy and love in obedience, please give scripture to back up your threats.
 
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Blik said:
Does the law oppose grace? Scripture tells us it leads people to grace, you are threatening. Please back up your threats with scripture.

If it is only something I will be judged for in a negative way to say there is joy and love in obedience, please give scripture to back up your threats.
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The GRACE is that he forgives us of our past sins, not after he clean, that gets us dirty again, JUST LIKE THESE SCRIPTURES tell us,
Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
HEBREWS 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
JamES
5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
 
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Blik said:
Does the law oppose grace? Scripture tells us it leads people to grace, you are threatening. Please back up your threats with scripture.

If it is only something I will be judged for in a negative way to say there is joy and love in obedience, please give scripture to back up your threats.
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Galatians
3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
 
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Blik said:
Does the law oppose grace? Scripture tells us it leads people to grace, you are threatening. Please back up your threats with scripture.

If it is only something I will be judged for in a negative way to say there is joy and love in obedience, please give scripture to back up your threats.
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the Law is why grace is required, we’re it nor for grace, the very law you keep try8ng to put us under would condemn you where you stand (or sit)
 
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oyster67 said:
Galatians
3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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The question is what the law means to Christ? Christ would not go against the law, can we have Christ within and be against law? I don't think so. Christ is the law of perfection, even.
 
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oyster67 said:
Galatians
3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
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I do not know what you are talking about, I didn't anything that the SCRIPTURES that sent didn't say,
 
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