Who will Win

[SoulWeaver]

I was born and raised in Texas. Texas leads the country in executions pretty much every year. The family and friends I have are about 80% Christian. I myself was a die-hard conservative pro-capital punishment kid up until my mid 20s.

If you are shocked by my stating most Christians are pro-capital punishment, I'm with you... you're only shocked because you don't believe it. May I ask where you were born and raised? If in the US, perhaps our states have vastly different cultures, but I think the pro-capital punishment theme is commonplace amongst the majority of Christians throughout all 50 states.

I'll go a step further... I thought the people who were anti-capital punishment were liberal idiots who wanted to protect the most heinous people from a fate they deserve. I will only speak for myself, but I assure you this is fairly common even today. I doubt it's just a Texas thing either as my non-Texan Christian friends have similar sentiments.

A common passage is quoted for Christians who are pro-capital punishment, it's one I used incorrectly to justify it back in the day...

• Romans 13:1-4, "Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God. 2 Therefore he who resists authority has opposed the ordinance of God; and they who have opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. 3 For rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil."

Ah... Texas. I was surprised, but you are telling the truth. Texas is known for death sentence and its approval. This doesn't quite make sense to me either... it seems like the culture overweighs or bends the faith convictions.

I was born and raised in Serbia but I live in the US now. Most of the people in my country of origin would classify their background as Christian, even though an overwhelming majority is secular and not practicing on daily basis, which is what I call a "cultural" Christian. Even so, people generally agree against death sentence, with the argument that one has no right to take away what one has not given. We don't have death sentence, we had but it was abolished.

There has been some renewed vigor for that in the recent years, but I believe this is because the punishments for rapists and child molesters are ridiculous, inadequately low even though they are repeat offenders, and people feel justice isn't served, which it isn't, indeed. Even as a repeat offender, they get a slap on the wrist and rape - often murder as well - someone else, literally as soon as they get out. Meanwhile, sentences for people caught with marijuana are unreasonably high, often higher in comparison than sentences for child molesters. How is smoking, even selling marijuana a worse offense compared to destroying a child's life? Makes you think, are people who create laws pedophiles? And there's a constant interest and will from people to change this, yet it's never challenged. The system is broken.

 

[iamsoandso]

So in your perspective we are just in a repetitive cycle and shouldn't be concerned all that much with our country's future?

Well if you look at the "arable land" per person in the US(based on our current population) it is 0.480 hectares which is 1.186106 acres per person in the US. So if the economy crumbled at this time and they divided it to each of us to keep the people from starving to death you and everyone of us would receive 1.186106 acres of land to farm.

I am going to be busy for a while but I should also say this to not seem as if I am giving a short answer. First I am just as afraid of any type OWG takeover as any other Christian and so asking me what to do about this is not really as if it's up to me or if I could stop it in the first place. So I don't know and am willing to see if any others have an idea of what to do.

I did not mention Agenda 21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21 because most are aware of it by now anyway but here it is. I think that because the worlds population is approaching the 9 billion mark then they(the governments) know that because of the arable land issue that we will begin to starve between now and 2050(10 billion pop. range) and so they see it as if they have little choice to do this.

In Christianity we know that an OWG/Babylon(economy) crumble will take place but we don't know if this is whats going on with C-19 and the push into an socialist form at this time or if it's just a coincidence. If C-19 is part of this and we are facing over population verses too little arable land then C-19 may be being used to reduce the population whether if it's natural or by device. So I would bare that in mind because convincing people it is harmless would reduce the problem of agenda 21(population) and would help them and so they may not be telling us everything they know. Everyone sees this differently so I wont harp on it but said it and you'll just have to make up your own minds just watch every angle as a possibility.

The issue of arable land,over population ect. I see as a reality and not an conspiracy(nor my own theory) because it is self evident that if our worlds population is 9 billion and the planet is not getting any larger then eventually it will get to a point where we cannot raise enough livestock or gardens to feed that many people. Then there is the added fact that they themselves(worlds governments) have had meetings to solve this and are public about it,so they themselves admit to the agenda 21 issue.

I think that it is a convenient distraction that we are arguing about many of these things and are pitted one side against the other. I say this because when I look one way there's some things that look really wrong(bad) but a few that are good but I wont commit to it because of the bad things. Looking the other way it is the same with a lot of good things but it would still be better to take some scissors and cut the bad stuff out of both and not have to settle with the excess baggage.

 

[Truth7t7]

Exactly. Government mandates on wearing masks, inner-state travel restrictions, school closures, business closures, limiting the amount of family members who can enter your home for the holidays, all while the establishment elites continue to live as free Americans by arrogantly ignoring the very rules they implement.

LET THEM EAT CAKE! And the liberal sheep say baaaaaaaaahhh 🐑

100% correct, California Governor at a dinner gathering of 10+ , no mask, on and on and hes locking the State down, closing businesses?

He was interviewed laughing while falsely apologizing

 

[EleventhHour]

I’m glad you corrected your 9/11 number. Just remember my dear friend, Covid is apparently so dangerous we have to take a test to know if we even had it. ❤️

It is dangerous for some yes.

I am not in favor of how some, not you, minimize the challenges of this virus and the challenges your country now faces, it can no

longer can be contained.

I for one enjoy, have spent much time with elderly people in my life and medically fragile and I see no room for a callous heart that some on here (again not

you) display towards those with medical conditions when even having had a prior pneumonia is significant enough to cause a young

person to be in a life threatening condition.

And calling this a "hoax" is tremendous disrespect to doctors/nurses/front line workers (and I have

several in my family working in the USA and Canada as I type) who put their lives on the line much like those in the military on a daily basis.

 

[iamsoandso]

You present false fear, not going to happen

America is self sufficient in fossil fuels,food production, on and on

You have presented the apocalypse, no food, what will we do

Sci-Fi propaganda, a tool used by (Leftist) for control

You see this because as an AMillennial/Preterist and you have already resolved these issues in your eschatology correct? On the other hand in a futurist view these things surrounding the apocalypse are to be watched for....

 

[Truth7t7]

Ah... Texas. I was surprised, but you are telling the truth. Texas is known for death sentence and its approval. This doesn't quite make sense to me either... it seems like the culture overweighs or bends the faith convictions.

I was born and raised in Serbia but I live in the US now. Most of the people in my country of origin would classify their background as Christian, even though an overwhelming majority is secular and not practicing on daily basis, which is what I call a "cultural" Christian. Even so, people generally agree against death sentence, with the argument that one has no right to take away what one has not given. We don't have death sentence, we had but it was abolished.

There has been some renewed vigor for that in the recent years, but I believe this is because the punishments for rapists and child molesters are ridiculous, inadequately low even though they are repeat offenders, and people feel justice isn't served, which it isn't, indeed. Even as a repeat offender, they get a slap on the wrist and rape - often murder as well - someone else, literally as soon as they get out. Meanwhile, sentences for people caught with marijuana are unreasonably high, often higher in comparison than sentences for child molesters. How is smoking, even selling marijuana a worse offense compared to destroying a child's life? Makes you think, are people who create laws pedophiles? And there's a constant interest and will from people to change this, yet it's never challenged. The system is broken.

You know a system is broken when the government promotes and allows killing the unborn (Abortion) premeditated murder in the 1st degree

Save A Whale On Sunday, Kill A Child On Monday

 

[Truth7t7]

You see this because as an AMillennial/Preterist and you have already resolved these issues in your eschatology correct? On the other hand in a futurist view these things surrounding the apocalypse are to be watched for....

I'm a futurist in my eschatology, and I dont see believers running around starving as you suggest

The bible tells the believer not to worry about food and clothing, God has that covered

Do you read the bible?

Matthew 6:26-34KJV
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

 

[Truth7t7]

It is dangerous for some yes.

I am not in favor of how some, not you, minimize the challenges of this virus and the challenges your country now faces, it can no

longer can be contained.

I for one enjoy, have spent much time with elderly people in my life and medically fragile and I see no room for a callous heart that some on here (again not

you) display towards those with medical conditions when even having had a prior pneumonia is significant enough to cause a young

person to be in a life threatening condition.

And calling this a "hoax" is tremendous disrespect to doctors/nurses/front line workers (and I have

several in my family working in the USA and Canada as I type) who put their lives on the line much like those in the military on a daily basis.

Shelter and protect the (Vulnerable) elderly, pre-existing conditions,while the world continues as usual.

Covid is a tool used by liberal democrats for control, and yes the number of deaths are half of what the establishment claims, increased $$$ for the medical industry to hang covid on the case

Democrats have tried to steal an election, using Covid as their platform, sending all voters absentee ballots, fraud, control, power, $$$$$

 

[iamsoandso]

I'm a futurist in my eschatology, and I dont see believers running around starving as you suggest

The bible tells the believer not to worry about food and clothing, God has that covered

Do you read the bible?

Matthew 6:26-34KJV
26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?
27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?
28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin:
29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.
30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?
31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?
32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.
34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

Great then you've spotted half now add this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Horsemen_of_the_Apocalypse

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I am going to be busy for a while but I should also say this to not seem as if I am giving a short answer. First I am just as afraid of any type OWG takeover as any other Christian and so asking me what to do about this is not really as if it's up to me or if I could stop it in the first place. So I don't know and am willing to see if any others have an idea of what to do.

I did not mention Agenda 21 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21 because most are aware of it by now anyway but here it is. I think that because the worlds population is approaching the 9 billion mark then they(the governments) know that because of the arable land issue that we will begin to starve between now and 2050(10 billion pop. range) and so they see it as if they have little choice to do this.

In Christianity we know that an OWG/Babylon(economy) crumble will take place but we don't know if this is whats going on with C-19 and the push into an socialist form at this time or if it's just a coincidence. If C-19 is part of this and we are facing over population verses too little arable land then C-19 may be being used to reduce the population whether if it's natural or by device. So I would bare that in mind because convincing people it is harmless would reduce the problem of agenda 21(population) and would help them and so they may not be telling us everything they know. Everyone sees this differently so I wont harp on it but said it and you'll just have to make up your own minds just watch every angle as a possibility.

The issue of arable land,over population ect. I see as a reality and not an conspiracy(nor my own theory) because it is self evident that if our worlds population is 9 billion and the planet is not getting any larger then eventually it will get to a point where we cannot raise enough livestock or gardens to feed that many people. Then there is the added fact that they themselves(worlds governments) have had meetings to solve this and are public about it,so they themselves admit to the agenda 21 issue.

I think that it is a convenient distraction that we are arguing about many of these things and are pitted one side against the other. I say this because when I look one way there's some things that look really wrong(bad) but a few that are good but I wont commit to it because of the bad things. Looking the other way it is the same with a lot of good things but it would still be better to take some scissors and cut the bad stuff out of both and not have to settle with the excess baggage.

We all have a part to play in this great story of mankind. And we all often do not know when or where our defining moment or moments will be. History is filled with the memories of the defining moments. When the time came, individuals made a choice, and that choice for many led to life or death. Prosperity or destruction.

 

[cv5]

100% correct, California Governor at a dinner gathering of 10+ , no mask, on and on and hes locking the State down, closing businesses?

He was interviewed laughing while falsely apologizing

Yeah I saw that interview. He was so screw-faced while he was apologizing it was making me sick.
I don't know why anyone can fail to see that he is a pure psychopath by definition. Newsom has a criminal psychological profile, and he is a sociopath. Clearly. Obviously.

 

[cv5]

You see this because as an AMillennial/Preterist and you have already resolved these issues in your eschatology correct? On the other hand in a futurist view these things surrounding the apocalypse are to be watched for....

We are as Christians are explicitly commanded to WATCH and be ready for Christ's imminent return. This is also clearly and unequivocally stated in the epistles....so let us not say that it is for the Jew only. This is beyond disputing. This warning pertains both to Jew and Christian alike.

 

[cv5]

Police In Fla. Investigating Man Claiming He Illegally Registered To Vote In Ga. Ahead Of Runoff Elections

https://www.oahttps://www.oann.com/police-in-fla-investigating-man-claiming-he-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-ga-ahead-of-runoff-elections/nn.com/police-in-fla-investigating-man-claiming-he-illegally-registered-to-vote-in-ga-ahead-of-runoff-elections/

 

[EleventhHour]

Shelter and protect the (Vulnerable) elderly, pre-existing conditions,while the world continues as usual.

Covid is a tool used by liberal democrats for control, and yes the number of deaths are half of what the establishment claims, increased $$$ for the medical industry to hang covid on the case

Democrats have tried to steal an election, using Covid as their platform, sending all voters absentee ballots, fraud, control, power, $$$$$

Yes of course, and this is going on all over the world... all doctors are in on this Communist scheme.

It is a ultra super duper secret dossier called...

"Communism by Covid"

 

[cv5]

Georgia House Announces More Election Hearings Will Be Held Next Week

Georgia House Announces More Election Hearings Will Be Held Next Week

 

[iamsoandso]

Yes of course, and this is going on all over the world... all doctors are in on this Communist scheme.

It is a ultra super duper secret dossier called...

"Communism by Covid"

And man their powerful they can control the media,the health depts. and funeral homes from here in the US to Canada and Russia,China and plum to the tip of Peru,we don't have a chance.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

So what are we expecting when the election gets sent back to Congress?

 

[iamsoandso]

brace yourselves were in for trouble is from the OP

 

[oldethennew]

we recently read what the 'world' would call a 'prophetic-analysis' from a site called 'The Trumpet.com -
they have said and believe that DT will 'WIN', according to the 'rule of LAW'...
they are basically putting their 'credibility', as a 'Church' of God', on the LINE by saying such!!!
IF their analysis comes TRUE, then hub and I will definitely pay close attention and examine them
very closely...

 

[cv5]

***Georgia Fraud*** Great analysis. These people need to go to jail. Quickly.