What is "the age to come?"

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I try not to read too much into those kinds of statements. In the first passage from "now on" in the second passage, 'not now, not ever".
 
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iamsoandso said:
Look close at the Scripture you gave from Mark in your former post "world to come eternal life..." and compare it with "shall not perish,but have eternal life..." they are both speaking of the world to come.
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Yes and when we figure out when eternal life starts, then we will know when the world to come starts/started. Like I said before, I believe eternal life begins at salvation.
 
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Yeah. But they've got a problem. The word they render "Dispensation" is "Okonomia" in the Greek. It means "dispensation", but not in the sense of a time period. It means "household management" with the implication of a mother in the kitchen "dispensing" nourishment to her family. From this word we get "Economy". A Country pays taxes and the Government "dispenses" of that money. That's the "Economy" of a country.

The good thing is that however God has divided the times, it is not so important what is past. What we are in and what is the next immediate AGE (aion - Gk.) is very important. There are threats and promises attached to both for the Christian. For instance, if the foolish Virgin did not buy extra oil in the age of GRACE, but must buy in the AGE of the RULE OF THE ROD OF IRON, I think it's not going to be pleasant.
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Yes "Economy" which is how Irenaeus also used it. In the "midst of the week",,(in the middle) https://biblehub.com/hebrew/2677.htm o half way through the week of seven days https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/9-27.htm he came and was cut off and the sacrifice and oblation stopped.

Which then is half way(approx.) of the seven one thousand year days of https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/2-4.htm and so Jesus came and was cut off,the Temple was destroyed and the next age came leaving two more one thousand year days(almost this is 5781/Hebrew year) and then the seventh( 1000/millennial) will begin which is all seven ages of the heavens and the earth.
 
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KJV1611 said:
Yes and when we figure out when eternal life starts, then we will know when the world to come starts/started. Like I said before, I believe eternal life begins at salvation.
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As in the OP's question do you see "ages/aeon's of time" and "salvation" as synonyms?
 
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iamsoandso said:
As in the OP's question do you see "ages/aeon's of time" and "salvation" as synonyms?
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No, they're not related at all. The verses I posted said that eternal life comes in the NEXT world. Do you agree?
 
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iamsoandso said:
yes next world not next age.
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Ah I see where your coming from. The KJV uses "world" in both verses of the OP.

Mat 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:
 
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KJV1611 said:
Yes and when we figure out when eternal life starts, then we will know when the world to come starts/started. Like I said before, I believe eternal life begins at salvation.
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I think I know what you're getting at, but eternal life is just that. NO beginning and NO end. It can't start.

"Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually" (Hebrews 7:3)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you probably meant the moment when a Believer receives the LIFE and NATURE of God. If this something new, try this. If Adam, still sinless, had eaten of the Tree of Life. When would he have partaker of the divine life (2nd Pet.1:3-4)? John answers. Notice the tense.

John 6:47;
47 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

1 John 5:11-13;
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

"hath" and "have" mean that he once, in the past, RECEIVED and has never relinquished it.
 
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