ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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SoulWeaver

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Your questioning it is reasonable. Just don't confuse the 'religious'/'spiritual'/'biblical' aspect of it with what kind of technology may be used to implement it.

I personally believe that the prophecy is literal - that it actually involves some kind of "mark" in/on the forehead or right hand.

The 'but not the left hand' aspect of it is purely 'religious'. What technology may be used to implement it is a totally separate issue.

Let's focus on your concern for a moment - "name a pretzle" - be specific.
I just gave you one. You can see it here and there, people now claim the mark is about here and they believe it's this vaccine, "it's about government worship". That's not what it says in the Bible. It's not govt worship, if this is going to be literal, then there's supposed to be a certain man who is going to be worshipped. But no, just force whatever current events to fit prophecy. It's desperate and cringey.
 

GaryA

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I just gave you one. You can see it here and there, people now claim the mark is about here and they believe it's this vaccine, "oh it's about government worship". That's not what it says in the Bible. It's not govt worship, if this is going to be literal, then there's supposed to be a certain man who is going to be worshipped. Just force whatever current events to fit prophecy. It's desperate and cringey.
Well - you just gotta discern the real from the imagined...

Sometimes that is difficult to do - but we gotta do it...

I don't think it is the vaccine itself that people are pointing to as being the mark of the beast. (If they are, they are probably misinformed.)

It is an associated thing - like the "quantum dot" technology, for example, that they believe the vaccine will lead to. (A very valid concern.)

If it is associated closely enough with the vaccine - then, it will be viewed as part of the vaccine. This is understandable.

I believe "they" intend to use "the vaccine" to kill billions of people. It may not be the first one - could be #2, #3, ...#?

Perhaps - first they get people to trust it - then, at some point - the next one they put out has something in it that will kill all who take it.

In the meanwhile - every one of them will have chemicals in it that will 'numb' people's minds into a more 'zombie' state of existance.

And/Or - sterilize them so they cannot have children. And, perhaps other "desired" effects from the makers of the vaccines.

With regard to the mark of the beast - study carefully the context of all of the related verses.

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Nehemiah6

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It makes me think that something Satanic is going on, and that this isn't a "natural" issue, but something of a deeply spiritual, and Satanic, issue.
There is absolutely no doubt that Satan has unleashed his demons in 2020 and the evildoers are having a heyday while Christians are failing to stand up and say "Enough is enough".

When the Leftist Democratic governors and mayors targeted Christian churches, there should have been a general decision to break away from any tax advantages obtained previously from the government, and at the same time to unitedly inform all those in authority that they had no business interfering with how Christians met and worship. But that did not happen, so the evildoers pressed their advantage. And even after SCOTUS has ruled against Cuomo's violation of the First Amendment against religions groups it would appear that churches have not immediately said "Enough is enough" and rejected all the COVID tyranny. Everything which is being reported is bogus.
 
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I began researching this when I came upon a blog and Christians were warning of forced vaccinations. So I looked it up and found some people who say that the vaccine may indeed be the Mark of the Beast.
Here's an idea. Make a video like this or similar, (there are plenty of free video editing software programs that come with tutorials to show you how) and in your video use some people in lab coats, (any of your friends will work) pretending to be scientist who have created a pill that you can take that will deactivate the tracking device and render any other harmful effects of the vaccine harmless.

This pill could just be a sugar pill. Charge $19.99 plus shipping and handling and get rich quick. The same people that believe that a tracking device will be injected into people with the vaccine will believe your video that it can be deactivated.

That way they will get the vaccine and be protected from COVID and also make you rich. Everybody wins. There is the part about lying you will have to deal with but that does not seem to be a problem for people who say that the vaccine will inject you with a tracking device.
 

Ahwatukee

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I wanted to know if it is accurate that the RFID can only work properly in forehead and right hand? I admit I am not too knowledgeable in this area (electronics) so this is going a bit over my head, although I understand the basics of the RFID technology. You said you were not sure yet... and the last sentence sounded like a tease but you didn't tell in the end what you concluded why not left hand :)
I am definitely not chipping myself, I believe there's no good excuse for microchipping anyone's BODY, there are chipped documents, and convenient items like bracelets you can't lose, to cover all kinds of necessities, if there is a medical necessity, like Alzheimer's...
Hi SoulWeaver!

Going forward, could you reply to the specific person, so that it lists the post and person that you are replying to. I can't tell if you are addressing me or someone on my ignore list. If you are not addressing me, then my apologies!
 

PennEd

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Couple points about this video. This is almost certainly not Bill Gates.

But that is entirely irrelevant. The information, the time when this was made, how they think they can implement it, and their goals, are all exactly what is going on today.

It is precisely what I have been saying. Taking this vaccine WILL change you
 
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Couple points about this video. This is almost certainly not Bill Gates.

But that is entirely irrelevant. The information, the time when this was made, how they think they can implement it, and their goals, are all exactly what is going on today.

It is precisely what I have been saying. Taking this vaccine WILL change you
It's not Bill Gates but that is irrelevant? So the attempt to make you believe it is Bill Gates does not make you doubt everything else in it? You think the CIA is so stupid about science they would think you could give someone a vaccination and it would change their genes? Come on! A flu vaccination that will remove a gene from you? It's fake. Probably a college theater class.

Even the idea that you can read a religious text and identify a gene is bogus science. This is fantasy stuff like what people make up in movies.
 
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Couple points about this video. This is almost certainly not Bill Gates.

But that is entirely irrelevant. The information, the time when this was made, how they think they can implement it, and their goals, are all exactly what is going on today.

It is precisely what I have been saying. Taking this vaccine WILL change you
I googled b matt 2 gene vaccine trying to figure out what he said, and even though I spelled it wrong I still found all the fact checks on it, instantly. I am assuming that you don't ever fact check or you just would rather believe the video even if the brain scan images were taken from another article about lesions in a young woman and used in this video.

I mean 1) you don't fact check, 2) you fact checked but don't believe the fact check information. 3) you fact checked and believe the fact check information but are willing to lie to get people scared of vaccines. Which is it?

Fact Check information:

VMAT2 is the scientific name for “Vesicular monoamine transporter 2”, a protein that carries neurotransmitters such as dopamine, encoded in humans by the SLC18A2 gene ( here ). A study on VMAT2 interacting with drugs is visible here , while another on VMAT2 in neuropsychiatric disorders is visible here .

The video may have been inspired by the book “The God Gene: How Faith Is Hardwired into Our Genes” by Dr Dean Hamer ( here ). The book discusses how “a variation in the VMAT2 gene plays a role in one's openness to spiritual experiences” ( here , here ).

Since at least 2011, the video has been subject to scrutiny over its origins and creation on many online forums providing different theories (examples here and here ). Some point to awkward lip syncing or tones of voice, others to the large font used for the date and timestamps, and some hint the men in the video may be actors (at the very end the speaker looks straight at the camera awkwardly). (I guessed this, because I have a lick of sense)

The video includes images of brain scans (visible at 3:13 youtu.be/jRg41D8SOq0?t=193 ). Posts on Metabunk’s forum ( here ) place the images of the brain scans as coming from a 2010 case article on Neurology.org titled “A case of confusion and bilateral temporal lesions in a young woman” ( here ). Both images in the video take the brain scan labelled “B” in the article have overwritten it with color for supposed brain activity.
 

SoulWeaver

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Hi SoulWeaver!

Going forward, could you reply to the specific person, so that it lists the post and person that you are replying to. I can't tell if you are addressing me or someone on my ignore list. If you are not addressing me, then my apologies!
I was replying to a person,
 

PennEd

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I googled b matt 2 gene vaccine trying to figure out what he said, and even though I spelled it wrong I still found all the fact checks on it, instantly. I am assuming that you don't ever fact check or you just would rather believe the video even if the brain scan images were taken from another article about lesions in a young woman and used in this video.

I mean 1) you don't fact check, 2) you fact checked but don't believe the fact check information. 3) you fact checked and believe the fact check information but are willing to lie to get people scared of vaccines. Which is it?

Fact Check information:

VMAT2 is the scientific name for “Vesicular monoamine transporter 2”, a protein that carries neurotransmitters such as dopamine, encoded in humans by the SLC18A2 gene ( here ). A study on VMAT2 interacting with drugs is visible here , while another on VMAT2 in neuropsychiatric disorders is visible here .

The video may have been inspired by the book “The God Gene: How Faith Is Hardwired into Our Genes” by Dr Dean Hamer ( here ). The book discusses how “a variation in the VMAT2 gene plays a role in one's openness to spiritual experiences” ( here , here ).

Since at least 2011, the video has been subject to scrutiny over its origins and creation on many online forums providing different theories (examples here and here ). Some point to awkward lip syncing or tones of voice, others to the large font used for the date and timestamps, and some hint the men in the video may be actors (at the very end the speaker looks straight at the camera awkwardly). (I guessed this, because I have a lick of sense)

The video includes images of brain scans (visible at 3:13 youtu.be/jRg41D8SOq0?t=193 ). Posts on Metabunk’s forum ( here ) place the images of the brain scans as coming from a 2010 case article on Neurology.org titled “A case of confusion and bilateral temporal lesions in a young woman” ( here ). Both images in the video take the brain scan labelled “B” in the article have overwritten it with color for supposed brain activity.
I get it Scribbles.

You are an unbeliever.

But let's look at what you do believe.

1. That a Global Pandemic with a 0.1% mortality rate necessitates never before seen lockdowns, compulsory face accessory wearing, (like forcing Jews to wear star of David), revocation of rights and assemblies, government forced business closures, and abuses of citizenry of every kind.

2. That this same relatively mild illness demands the need for a vaccine, and not just any vaccine, a brand new type of vaccine that uses mRNA to alter your genetics.

3. That THE main people behind the massive push to vaccinate every person (except THEIR select few) on the planet, and have funded not only the genetic vaccines, but the virus itself, and have for DECADES advocated not only population control, but actual population reduction (read that murder), the same people that have a long history of eugenics and support for planned murder... er parenthood, HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART!!!
I could go on, but I think that's quite enough to ask you one question, and in all honesty I mean no offense, but....

ARE YOU STUPID!!!??!!??

Now before you react, please re-read numbers 1 through 3 and see if they apply to your beliefs.
 
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I get it Scribbles.

You are an unbeliever.

But let's look at what you do believe.

1. That a Global Pandemic with a 0.1% mortality rate necessitates never before seen lockdowns, compulsory face accessory wearing, (like forcing Jews to wear star of David), revocation of rights and assemblies, government forced business closures, and abuses of citizenry of every kind.

2. That this same relatively mild illness demands the need for a vaccine, and not just any vaccine, a brand new type of vaccine that uses mRNA to alter your genetics.

3. That THE main people behind the massive push to vaccinate every person (except THEIR select few) on the planet, and have funded not only the genetic vaccines, but the virus itself, and have for DECADES advocated not only population control, but actual population reduction (read that murder), the same people that have a long history of eugenics and support for planned murder... er parenthood, HAVE YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART!!!
I could go on, but I think that's quite enough to ask you one question, and in all honesty I mean no offense, but....

ARE YOU STUPID!!!??!!??

Now before you react, please re-read numbers 1 through 3 and see if they apply to your beliefs.
Don't get your blood pressure up. I will assume the answer is that you don't fact check and did not know that the previous video was a fake. This post is weak. It simply says "I will belligerently cleave to the ignorance that mRNA alters genes, with no data to back up my claims"
 

PennEd

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Don't get your blood pressure up. I will assume the answer is that you don't fact check and did not know that the previous video was a fake. This post is weak. It simply says "I will belligerently cleave to the ignorance that mRNA alters genes, with no data to back up my claims"
I take a double BP med. One part is a water pill. I have to go pee. Then I'll let ya have it!
 

PennEd

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Don't get your blood pressure up. I will assume the answer is that you don't fact check and did not know that the previous video was a fake. This post is weak. It simply says "I will belligerently cleave to the ignorance that mRNA alters genes, with no data to back up my claims"
Finally back from the John.

I like you Mr Scribe, and if you are a true born again Child of God, you are my brother in Christ and I love you.

So I’m not here to win the best debater trophy. I truly have yours and everyone else’s best interest at heart.

I also know you’re not stupid. Neither am I, and I promise you that it will be a mistake of mammath proportions for anyone to take this evil vaccine.
 
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Finally back from the John.

I like you Mr Scribe, and if you are a true born again Child of God, you are my brother in Christ and I love you.

So I’m not here to win the best debater trophy. I truly have yours and everyone else’s best interest at heart.

I also know you’re not stupid. Neither am I, and I promise you that it will be a mistake of mammath proportions for anyone to take this evil vaccine.
Same to you bro.

Not trying to have the last word here, but I don't think you can promise that about it being a mistake. You can only promise that you believe that. And I think that it is wrong to make people scared of a vaccine that will save lives, probably another 250K or more just in the USA alone.

I think it is more likely that I can promise that many will regret not getting the vaccine. Time will tell.
 

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I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO READ - ONLY TO ALERT EVERYONE FURTHER: IN RUSSIA THE GOVERNMENT FORCED CITIZENS TO "BE TESTED" FOR COVID - AFTERWARDS >>> MANY BECOME SICK! IS THIS HOW THEY INTEND TO DELIVER WHATEVER IS IN THE VACCINE TO THOSE WHO REFUSE IT???

YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT AMERICAN MILITARY WERE THERE WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING. ARE THEY BEING SHOWN HOW TO CONTROL CITIZENS???

YOU FOLKS WHO ARE FOLLOWING ORDERS HAD BETTER REALIZE THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO WAKE UP EVERYONE IN YOUR VICINITY.

https://www.henrymakow.com
 
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I DID NOT HAVE TIME TO READ - ONLY TO ALERT EVERYONE FURTHER: IN RUSSIA THE GOVERNMENT FORCED CITIZENS TO "BE TESTED" FOR COVID - AFTERWARDS >>> MANY BECOME SICK! IS THIS HOW THEY INTEND TO DELIVER WHATEVER IS IN THE VACCINE TO THOSE WHO REFUSE IT???

YOU MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THAT AMERICAN MILITARY WERE THERE WHEN THIS WAS HAPPENING. ARE THEY BEING SHOWN HOW TO CONTROL CITIZENS???

YOU FOLKS WHO ARE FOLLOWING ORDERS HAD BETTER REALIZE THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO WAKE UP EVERYONE IN YOUR VICINITY.

https://www.henrymakow.com
You might want to see a doctor.
 

justahumanbeing

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These are troubling times, no doubt about it. Many fear that the vaccine would be something that contains nanotech or physically altering human beings' bio functions. And among Christians, Mark of the beast.

In case you all don't know already, we all have unique social security numbers. We're numbered through voter ids, ration cards, driver's license, Passport. In so many ways. Most importantly, our mobile allows us to be tracked at all times and our media accessibility and what we consume as media and our conversations are no longer secret.

We share so much of our time online expressing our emotions. So much so that we leave a digital signature of ourselves. Mark of the beast will be a neural chip, like the one Elon Musk has that connects us to our digital selves or something like that. That sounds more like the Mark of the beast. Where we become part of artificial intelligence or something like that.

While the vaccine sounds dubious, when you make a reality check, we are at a global crisis. A lot of conspiracy theories go hand in hand with what is going on. School rumors and people talking does not prove anything.

I think we do have the technology and we have advanced enough to find a vaccine to make ourselves immune to the virus after the progress in the medical field. That too even though it normally takes half a decade to find a vaccine, the whole world is working towards a solution to the problem.

So the efforts made are more focused on getting a result. The vaccines will be available at an affordable cost or free. If the vaccines have no effect against the virus, then we will have to social distance and take necessary precautions. It's hard. But taking precautions and preventive measures is necessary to save vulnerable lives. Especially those of the old people. Those young have a better chance of recovery and living. We know what that is.


 

justahumanbeing

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For the record, I am wary about the vaccine too. Only time will tell what happens. We can only pray and see how all this turns up.
 
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