Choosing to sin, after we have received the knowledge of the truth, is choosing to be lost.

[AlmondJoy]

EZEKIEL 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die. [ GOD does not change ]And has no respect of persons
James5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins. [ this tells us if we see A brother [in CHRIST ] err, [means sin ] an And we warn him, that CHRISTIANS are NOT TO SIN, and he repents and don't sin, then he is saved from death, [ but if he don't repent, this is what will happen to him.
HEBREWS 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. the consuming fire of GOD, will devour him,

Thats right they choose to be lost.

There is certainly a difference between committing sin and living in sin......if I choose to live in sin... I choose to be lost

 

[Duskey]

Thats right they choose to be lost.

There is certainly a difference between committing sin and living in sin......if I choose to live in sin... I choose to be lost

No argument here AJ, but since it only takes one sin to separate us from God forever, what is the difference between committing sin and living in sin? Is God’s grace sufficient or not?

 

[Guojing]

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
WE are the SPIRITUAL ISREAL NOW, THAT is world wide.
Ezekiel 21:25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity [shall have] an end,
21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this [shall] not [be] the same: exalt [him that is] low, and abase [him that is] high.
21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no [more], until he come whose right it is; and I will give it [him].

HE is telling us here that HE is not going to turn back to ISREAL till the one that it belongs to comes back, and that is when YESUAH COMES IN HIS KINGDOM, AND HE is coming for all of ISREAL, AND THAT IS SPIRITUAL ISREAL ALSO.

The body of Christ is not Israel, natural or spiritual.

 

[bud62]

Do you not know that GOD's CHURCH go'S back before YESUAH CAME AND DIED ON THE CROSS???

 

[AlmondJoy]

No argument here AJ, but since it only takes one sin to separate us from God forever, what is the difference between committing sin and living in sin? Is God’s grace sufficient or not?

Difference is simple if you willfully sin and you don't feel conviction that causes you to pray and ask forgiveness its because your a bastard and not a son

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:7‭-‬8 KJV

Thats what happens when a real Christian sins

Rev 2 said God gave Jezebel space to repent

 

[Duskey]

Difference is simple if you willfully sin and you don't feel conviction that causes you to pray and ask forgiveness its because your a bastard and not a son

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:7‭-‬8 KJV

Thats what happens when a real Christian sins

Rev 2 said God gave Jezebel space to repent

You want to talk conviction? 6/27/93
I remember it like it was this morning.

 

[bud62]

Difference is simple if you willfully sin and you don't feel conviction that causes you to pray and ask forgiveness its because your a bastard and not a son

If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
Hebrews 12:7‭-‬8 KJV

Thats what happens when a real Christian sins

Rev 2 said God gave Jezebel space to repent

12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
YOU NEED TO TAKE Another LOOK at this verse, this is talking about all that is alive on the EARTH, EVEN ALL THE SINNERS AND ALL THE SAVED, FOR HE IS THE GOD OF ALL HERE ON THE EARTH,AND THERE IS NONE THAT HE DOES NOT CHASTISE.
FOR IT IS HIS WILL TO SAVE ALL , FROM THE WORST TO THE BEST, ALL THE SAME!!!

 

[Blik]

Posters who continuously refuse to acknowledge God’s grace draw the ire of people who understand God’s grace and our obligation to share His grace with the entire world.

When people think they are so perfect, so sinless, that they cannot have anyone mention sin to them, those are the ones who live outside of God's grace. Grace is the forgiveness of sin.

 

[Duskey]

When people think they are so perfect, so sinless, that they cannot have anyone mention sin to them, those are the ones who live outside of God's grace. Grace is the forgiveness of sin.

I see at least one in this thread.

 

[Ogom]

When people think they are so perfect, so sinless, that they cannot have anyone mention sin to them, those are the ones who live outside of God's grace. Grace is the forgiveness of sin.

And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth. (John 1:14)

 

[peldom10]

Well, during the Tribulation, when God commanded you not to take the mark of the beast, otherwise you will be forever be condemned, no matter what you believed about Jesus.

If you still go ahead and take the mark, yes, you are disobeying God and you can look forward to the lake of fire (Revelation 14)

This is one (for good reason) example that God uses to warn against........ and applies.....without forgiveness...provisions. He is a loving caring, forgiving God...but, there are limits.
Also, a perfect example of why OSAS is ridiculous...except when granted...saved...status after death and after God's judgment.

 

[bud62]

When people think they are so perfect, so sinless, that they cannot have anyone mention sin to them, those are the ones who live outside of God's grace. Grace is the forgiveness of sin.

ROMANS 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
PAUL IS TELLING US THAT THE GRACE IS FOR THE SINS THAT ARE PAST, NOT SINS THAT WE HOLD on to AND keep sinning, or commit after we get CLEAN OF OUR SINS, THAT JUST MAKES US DIRTY SINNERS AGAIN, AND WORSE THE ONES THAT HASN'T COME TO CHRIST, SOMEONE THAT SAYS THAT HE HAS REPENTED AND JUST KEEP SINNING IS WORSE THEN THE SINNER, UNTILL HE DOES OVERCOME AND QUITS COMMITTING SIN.WHICH I PREY THAT FOR US ALL,

 

[Guojing]

This is one (for good reason) example that God uses to warn against........ and applies.....without forgiveness...provisions. He is a loving caring, forgiving God...but, there are limits.
Also, a perfect example of why OSAS is ridiculous...except when granted...saved...status after death and after God's judgment.

The Tribulation is for "the age to come"

But now, OSAS is correct. Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 said when we believe the gospel, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, for the day of redemption, which is the rapture.

 

[bud62]

The Tribulation is for "the age to come"

But now, OSAS is correct. Ephesians 1:13 and 4:30 said when we believe the gospel, we are sealed by the Holy Spirit, for the day of redemption, which is the rapture.

MATTHEW 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

The tares are gathered first THEN the WHEAT. HE will destroy the WICKED by the BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING. HE is not coming, IF you will study it out GOOD you will see that the ones taken are the LOST, AND they are left dead on the GROWN, FOR GOD'S great FEAST for the BIRDS,
MATTHEW HERE THEY ARE DEAD ON THE GROWN FOR THE BIRDS AT YESUAH COMING,
THEN HIS SAINTS WILL BE GETHER JUST LIKE YESUAH SAY, AND HE IS RIGHT< AND ALL THAT DISAGREE WITH HIM ARE ALL WRONG, AND MOST ARE SO PROUD THAT THEY WANT EVEN EXCEPT YESUAH WORD WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWED, THAT THAY ARE WRONG, GOD HELP US ALL

 

[Guojing]

MATTHEW 13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

The tares are gathered first THEN the WHEAT. HE will destroy the WICKED by the BRIGHTNESS OF HIS COMING. HE is not coming, IF you will study it out GOOD you will see that the ones taken are the LOST, AND they are left dead on the GROWN, FOR GOD'S great FEAST for the BIRDS,
MATTHEW HERE THEY ARE DEAD ON THE GROWN FOR THE BIRDS AT YESUAH COMING,
THEN HIS SAINTS WILL BE GETHER JUST LIKE YESUAH SAY, AND HE IS RIGHT< AND ALL THAT DISAGREE WITH HIM ARE ALL WRONG, AND MOST ARE SO PROUD THAT THEY WANT EVEN EXCEPT YESUAH WORD WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN SHOWED, THAT THAY ARE WRONG, GOD HELP US ALL

Have you Forgotten Matthew 15:24?

 

[Blik]

I see at least one in this thread.

Have you taken the place of God so you can judge? Perhaps you need glasses, God doesn't need them.

 

[Blik]

Have you Forgotten Matthew 15:24?

Matt. 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Paul was sent as an apostle to the gentiles. Christ was send to the Jew first, and then the gentiles.

John 10:16 Jesus said, “I have other sheep, too, in another fold. I must bring them also.

 

[Guojing]

Matt. 15:24 But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Paul was sent as an apostle to the gentiles. Christ was send to the Jew first, and then the gentiles.

John 10:16 Jesus said, “I have other sheep, too, in another fold. I must bring them also.

That is correct, we follow paul as he follows Christ, which is the foundation laid in Romans to Philemon

 

[AlmondJoy]

12:8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
YOU NEED TO TAKE Another LOOK at this verse, this is talking about all that is alive on the EARTH, EVEN ALL THE SINNERS AND ALL THE SAVED, FOR HE IS THE GOD OF ALL HERE ON THE EARTH,AND THERE IS NONE THAT HE DOES NOT CHASTISE.
FOR IT IS HIS WILL TO SAVE ALL , FROM THE WORST TO THE BEST, ALL THE SAME!!!

Not sure what your getting out??

He makes a distinction between a bastard and a son??

 

[Guojing]

Thats right they choose to be lost.

There is certainly a difference between committing sin and living in sin......if I choose to live in sin... I choose to be lost

Before you were saved, if you choose to do good, could you have renounced Satan?