ALERT: THE VACCINE MIGHT BE THE MARK OF THE BEAST

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Quadruple blind study, peer reviewed study, with even someone’s kid in the medical field telling their mom to trust the science saying HCQ works just like President Trump said. No need for a satanic vaccine!

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920304258
Tell that kid to stay in school. :) Trump did not use HCQ when he was hospitalized. It was a different mix.
So 1) if HCQ worked why did he get sick and have to go tot hospital?
, and 2) President Trump was given Remdesivir (antiviral) Dexamethasone (steroid) and Monoclonal antibodies from Regenron.
Tell the kind to do a science project on how these work and how the Moderna mRNA vaccine works and get back to us.
 
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Tell that kid to stay in school. :) Trump did not use HCQ when he was hospitalized. It was a different mix.
So 1) if HCQ worked why did he get sick and have to go tot hospital?
, and 2) President Trump was given Remdesivir (antiviral) Dexamethasone (steroid) and Monoclonal antibodies from Regenron.
Tell the kind to do a science project on how these work and how the Moderna mRNA vaccine works and get back to us.
it is retrospective study and can only be understood within that framework.
 

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Just an interesting thought, but does this mean that people who had allergic reactions to a vaccine in the past, and who therefore are unable to receive any more vaccines for medical reasons, are then safe from "the mark of the beast" and conversely from satan?
 

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Just an interesting thought, but does this mean that people who had allergic reactions to a vaccine in the past, and who therefore are unable to receive any more vaccines for medical reasons, are then safe from "the mark of the beast" and conversely from satan?
Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

So in that case, if the mark would be a vaccine, it would mean some would be medically exempt from temptation, not because they kept the word of His patience. Frankly, I am not convinced :) and I'm all for questioning greedy manufacturers, but I think we do not have to fear vaccines at least in this regard ;)
 
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Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
This verse is a mystery for me. Was the meaning to the church at Philadelphia that he would protect them from a wide spread persecution toward Christians that was about to be released by Domitian?

To apply it to the Great Tribulation of the future would be an illogical application. It would be like saying they will die before that day comes and that is how they were to be kept from it. Because we know they were not raptured.

But if it is about the last great Christian persecution under the Emperor Domitian and if it could be verified from history that the church of Philadelphia escaped that persecution then it would make better sense.

I understand that we can apply it to all churches at anytime in church history up to the present church also but if we do we must first understand the immediate application and use that principle to apply to all churches in history up to the present.

And in this case we would be saying that we can count on dying like the Philadelphians to be kept from that hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world.

I mean the Philadelphians were not raptured, so therefore it is difficult to apply the promise to keep them from the hour of temptation to the rapture. I do lean toward pre trib, pre mil view. I am just not sure people are being logical in their interpretation when they apply this one to the rapture since the Philadelphians were not raptured.
 

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This verse is a mystery for me. Was the meaning to the church at Philadelphia that he would protect them from a wide spread persecution toward Christians that was about to be released by Domitian?

To apply it to the Great Tribulation of the future would be an illogical application. It would be like saying they will die before that day comes and that is how they were to be kept from it. Because we know they were not raptured.

But if it is about the last great Christian persecution under the Emperor Domitian and if it could be verified from history that the church of Philadelphia escaped that persecution then it would make better sense.

I understand that we can apply it to all churches at anytime in church history up to the present church also but if we do we must first understand the immediate application and use that principle to apply to all churches in history up to the present.

And in this case we would be saying that we can count on dying like the Philadelphians to be kept from that hour of temptation which shall come upon all the world.

I mean the Philadelphians were not raptured, so therefore it is difficult to apply the promise to keep them from the hour of temptation to the rapture. I do lean toward pre trib, pre mil view. I am just not sure people are being logical in their interpretation when they apply this one to the rapture since the Philadelphians were not raptured.
Well, that certainly depends on how someone understands "rapture"... there isn't a single interpretation of this although there may be opinion held by a majority. Anyhow, kind of don't want to digress.

I personally believe the mark of the beast to be sin, and the beast to be the old unregenerate man. Not saying there won't be some physical manifestation of this but it just doesn't click for me so far...

But my main point was test running this idea that vaccine is the mark of the beast and see how fast it falls apart. It really doesn't make sense (and I'm glad you appreciated my humor earlier) for the mark of the beast to be something where a number of people is medically exempt to not receive it. It's got to be something to be received or not by a conscious choice of an adult individual, a moral decision for all people to consciously make. It would also not make sense for the mark of the beast to be vaccine because a lot of parents vaccinate their children. So if the mark of the beast was some vaccine, that would mean God would send many innocent babies to hell? I just don't think this idea stands if really entertained.
 
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Well, that certainly depends on how someone understands "rapture"... there isn't a single interpretation of this although there may be opinion held by a majority. Anyhow, kind of don't want to digress.

I personally believe the mark of the beast to be sin, and the beast to be the old unregenerate man. Not saying there won't be some physical manifestation of this but it just doesn't click for me so far...

But my main point was test running this idea that vaccine is the mark of the beast and see how fast it falls apart. It really doesn't make sense (and I'm glad you appreciated my humor earlier) for the mark of the beast to be something where a number of people is medically exempt to not receive it. It's got to be something to be received or not by a conscious choice of an adult individual, a moral decision for all people to consciously make. It would also not make sense for the mark of the beast to be vaccine because a lot of parents vaccinate their children. So if the mark of the beast was some vaccine, that would mean God would send many innocent babies to hell? I just don't think this idea stands if really entertained.
Of course not. It is a vaccine to make us immune to COVID 19. Nothing more. There will not be anyone getting the Mark of the Beast by mistake while trying to defeat a virus. Now if the RN points to an image on the wall or a statue on a table and asks you to worship it first, RUN!!!
 

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Do you think those are the only options? Death or vaccinate?
"Give me liberty, or give me death. Those who choose slavery (vaccination) will ultimately receive death anyway, and an ignoble one rather than a noble one.
 

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Of course not. It is a vaccine to make us immune to COVID 19. Nothing more. There will not be anyone getting the Mark of the Beast by mistake while trying to defeat a virus. Now if the RN points to an image on the wall or a statue on a table and asks you to worship it first, RUN!!!
and the great reset is just a right wing conspiracy theory.

and biden got more votes that obama

and the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed ( since march we have been threated with this)

and the media always is fair and honest and balenced.

nice fantasy world you live in,
 

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Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

So in that case, if the mark would be a vaccine, it would mean some would be medically exempt from temptation, not because they kept the word of His patience. Frankly, I am not convinced :) and I'm all for questioning greedy manufacturers, but I think we do not have to fear vaccines at least in this regard ;)
Basically, by accepting a vaccine, you are marking your body for somebody else. It's an act of extreme submission, if not worship (e.g. worship of the medical establishment or government), irrespective of anything else. If one's body is God's temple, why would one let another mark it?

However, as PennEd rightly notes, these vaccines also damage the body. Some make people sterile, they modify DNA, and there is conjecture that accepting one vaccine will likely change one's opinions and mind to accept the next, and the next, and eventually the beast-mark. If one accepts vaccines - a mark in the body - in order to be able to buy and sell, one is very close to accepting another mark in one's hand or forehead. A line must be drawn, and the wise time and place to draw it is here and now.
 
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Basically, by accepting a vaccine, you are marking your body for somebody else. It's an act of extreme submission, if not worship (e.g. worship of the medical establishment or government), irrespective of anything else. If one's body is God's temple, why would one let another mark it?

However, as PennEd rightly notes, these vaccines also damage the body. Some make people sterile, they modify DNA, and there is conjecture that accepting one vaccine will likely change one's opinions and mind to accept the next, and the next, and eventually the beast-mark. If one accepts vaccines - a mark in the body - in order to be able to buy and sell, one is very close to accepting another mark in one's hand or forehead. A line must be drawn, and the wise time and place to draw it is here and now.
I am surprised you have not added an alien into the mix. :alien: You need to work on this. I am sure you can fit one in if you try.
 
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This is the technology for the coming mark. Currently, an RFID chip is what is being inserted under the skin between the thumb and the index finger. I believe this technology will continue to evolve into something smaller and more applicable as the time period of the beast draws nearer. The fact is that, people in Sweden have already been receiving this device in the hand and are using it to make their purchases (buying).
Are persons putting this device into their foreheads as well?
 

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Basically, by accepting a vaccine, you are marking your body for somebody else. It's an act of extreme submission, if not worship (e.g. worship of the medical establishment or government), irrespective of anything else. If one's body is God's temple, why would one let another mark it?

However, as PennEd rightly notes, these vaccines also damage the body. Some make people sterile, they modify DNA, and there is conjecture that accepting one vaccine will likely change one's opinions and mind to accept the next, and the next, and eventually the beast-mark. If one accepts vaccines - a mark in the body - in order to be able to buy and sell, one is very close to accepting another mark in one's hand or forehead. A line must be drawn, and the wise time and place to draw it is here and now.
I'm not getting into a large argument for, or against vaccines. But vaccines are not the mark of the beast.
Do you seriously believe, if parents inject babies, that God will take those innocent babies to hell?
If so, we might not believe in the same God. It makes no sense for Jesus who exalted little children and was protective of them and told us to become like them, to send innocent babies to hell.
It makes even less sense that people are medically exempt from the mark of the beast, believer or non believer. It only makes sense that all people who hope into and love this world should receive it.
 

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Are persons putting this device into their foreheads as well?
The person who was claiming involvement in the invention of the microchip claimed that forehead and hands are the only places in the body where the body temperature change can adequately fuel the chip battery to work. As in this video - Carl Sanders is speaking, it's 5min long.

Then he says they gave me the Bible and said "don't read the book of Revelation it's too complicated". Why would these people he worked for, being supposedly so evil, give him the Bible to begin with? So something is not adding up in his story and I don't know if this is actually true. It might or might not be.

Either way. I can understand claims that adding chip to vaccination paves the way towards some physical mark - fine, I can agree on that, and I believe adding chip to vaccine is unnecessary and wrong, we have modernized cloud databases and chipped ID documents to track vaccinations outside of the body; but not that vaccines themselves are the mark of the beast. But if there is going to be a physical mark, it's supposed to be a moral decision for adult individuals, and nobody in the world is going to be medically excused from making this decision and then eating the consequences (but people with prior allergic response are exempt from further vaccines).
 
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