Replacement theology.

[Truth7t7]

We have reached a point in history where lies are far more appealing than the truth.

I agree, it's called (Dispensationalism)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Apparently you've never read the NT...

He also is telling the same lie anout is, because he does not understand our believe

duel covenant Is only applicable if we claim jews are saved eternally by a different covenant

while there are a few who think this. 90 % do not think this at all. yet they try it impose that on all of us.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree, it's called (Dispensationalism)

So the Bible is a lie?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

We have reached a point in history where lies are far more appealing than the truth.

Especially in the United States

 

[Truth7t7]

He also is telling the same lie anout is, because he does not understand our believe

duel covenant Is only applicable if we claim jews are saved eternally by a different covenant

while there are a few who think this. 90 % do not think this at all. yet they try it impose that on all of us.

Wikipedia: Dual-covenant or two-covenant theology is a school of thought in Christianity regarding the relevance of the Hebrew Bible, which Christians call the Old Testament.

Most Christians hold that the Old Testament has been superseded or abrogated and replaced with the New Covenant, which is the only one of the biblical covenants that remains valid today. Dual-covenant theology is unique in holding that the Old Covenant or the Law of Moses remains valid for Jews while the New Covenant only applies to non-Jews or gentiles.

 

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Paul told us straight up! Need to read his Epistles.

God did not break His Covenant with the Jews. THEY BROKE IT when they denied the promised Messiah.

There are numerous statements by Paul that clearly show the 1st Covenant waxed old and was REPLACED with the New Covenant, Grace. To call this a lie is to call the ministry, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus a lie!

Hebrews, Chapter 8:

6But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
7For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Galatians, Chapter 3:

6Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Romans, Chapter 9:

6Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.



You can apologize now for calling us liars. I would have expected better from you.

We need to think carefully when we consider the new covenant. It replaced the old, so much of the old is of no use to us, but we need to be aware that God does not make mistakes. The old covenant did not represent anything that was not true of God.

some say the old covenant promised salvation by works, but the old covenant never once promised salvation. A modern way of stating what it stated is to say "if you steal you go to jail". The old covenant gave the law in the only form the people of that day could understand: it gave rules to follow. But by only following rules and not the spirit, the spirit could be disobeyed. Think of the story of the good Samaritan, the Pharisee followed the rules and disobeyed the spirit. The new covenant corrected that.

If we think that God made a mistake with the old covenant, that God corrected His mistake by cancelling it, we are not understanding our Holy God. If we look for what is obsolete and growing old in the old covenant, we understand the Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

So the Bible is a lie?

Dispensations & Dispensationalism are apples and oranges, perhaps you should study the foundations and beliefs in Dispensationalism

Namely, the false teachings of a Pre-Trib rapture, and future Millennial Kingdom on this earth.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Wikipedia: Dual-covenant or two-covenant theology is a school of thought in Christianity regarding the relevance of the Hebrew Bible, which Christians call the Old Testament.

Most Christians hold that the Old Testament has been superseded or abrogated and replaced with the New Covenant, which is the only one of the biblical covenants that remains valid today. Dual-covenant theology is unique in holding that the Old Covenant or the Law of Moses remains valid for Jews while the New Covenant only applies to non-Jews or gentiles.

1. Since when is Wikipedia the inspired word of God
2. the only thing that has been superseded is the mosaic covenant, as that which was old is passing away, and God has given us a better covenant
3. salvation, in all dispensations, has been by grace through faith, no one has ever been saved eternally by the mosaic covenant, what it does is put all under sin, that all may be made a live (all being Jew and gentile)
4. The new covenant applies to all, Jew gentile male female, free slave rich poor.
5. the covenant concerning Isreal is the part of an eternal covenant made between God and Abraham, and also confirmed with Issac and Jacob (Israel) which was a one sided covenant, (I will) as apposed to a two sided covenant (you do this, and I will do that) as was the mosaic covenant,

Believing Gods promise or covenant he made with one of Abrahams sons is not duel covenant theology, because no one, I mean no one was saved by that covenant. It was not about salvation, it was about Gods plan for one nation. Which he will accomplish,

if he does not, he is a liar and can not be trusted, period

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Dispensations & Dispensationalism are apples and oranges, perhaps you should study the foundations and beliefs in Dispensationalism

Namely, the false teachings of a Pre-Trib rapture, and future Millennial Kingdom on this earth.

Maybe you should study them

it appears you are not well versed, not all dsipensationals are pre-trib, and the millennium is the word of a God. God fulfilled all first advent prophecies literally to the date, he will also fulfilled the rest of the prophecies literally to his timing,

 

[Truth7t7]

Maybe you should study them

it appears you are not well versed, not all dsipensationals are pre-trib, and the millennium is the word of a God. God fulfilled all first advent prophecies literally to the date, he will also fulfilled the rest of the prophecies literally to his timing,

I dont have a clue on what dsipensationals is?

I have not met a person following dispensationalism that dosent believe in a pre-trib rapture and Millennial kingdom on this earth

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I dont have a clue on what dsipensationals is?

I have not met a person following dispensationalism that dosent believe in a pre-trib rapture and Millennial kingdom on this earth

So that means your all knowledgable?

I know many who believe in mid trib, and many on here believe in post trib

get off your high horse man, you think we all believe jews are saved differently, and that we believe they are saved by their covenant and the new covenant is not for them

You know very little about dispensationalism, or what it even is. So next time you fee you need to yell, humble yourself and look inside.

 

[Truth7t7]

So that means your all knowledgable?

I know many who believe in mid trib, and many on here believe in post trib

get off your high horse man, you think we all believe jews are saved differently, and that we believe they are saved by their covenant and the new covenant is not for them

You know very little about dispensationalism, or what it even is. So next time you fee you need to yell, humble yourself and look inside.

I know quite a bit about John N. Darby & C.I Scofield the modern fathers of dispensationalism.

There is one covenant with man, the shed blood upon the cross of Calvary, period.

Dispensationalism, its foundations, and teachings are false, it's that simple

C. I. Scofield the (Adulterer), the greatest world influence in his 1909 reference bible, planting Dispensationalism in the hearts and minds of the unaware, abandoned his wife and daughters, and ran off with a young girl in his church (Adultery)

Scofield's disciple Lewis S. Chaffer founded Dallas Theological Seminary, Dispensationalism's world headquarters

God didnt use Adulterer C.I. Scofield to bring truth to the world, dispensationalism us a lie.

 

[Grandpa]

I think it’s time to read the words people have said about jews about how they killed Jesus and because they killled Jesus and rejected him God is done with them period

What would be the point of that?

 

[Journeyman]

No, God did choose a race, the Jewish people, they are the chosen. God has a plan, which is on hold until the Gentiles have come in. The church is not Israel. Romans 9-11 clearly teach this.

Gods plan is to save anyone who believes the gospel, whether Jew or gentile and his plan never was put on hold.

When Paul speaks of salvation coming to the gentiles because of "patrial blindness" of the Jews, he means unbelieving Jews killed Jesus and by his subsequent resurrection, the gospel was spread to the whole world. He says,

Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Rom.11:31

He means by preaching the gospel to them, now, not later.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I know quite a bit about John N. Darby & C.I Scofield the modern fathers of dispensationalism.

There is one covenant with man, the shed blood upon the cross of Calvary, period.

And myself. C.I. Scofield and I assume John Darby would agree with you. We believe there is one covenant between God and man where by anyone whether Jew or gentile is or has ever been saved
Maybe if you would study more you would see this. But like many. You just believe what your told.

Dispensationalism, its foundations, and teachings are false, it's that simple

C. I. Scofield the (Adulterer), the greatest world influence in his 1909 reference bible, planting Dispensationalism in the hearts and minds of the unaware, abandoned his wife and daughters, and ran off with a young girl in his church (Adultery)

Scofield's disciple Lewis S. Chaffer founded Dallas Theological Seminary, Dispensationalism's world headquarters

God didnt use Adulterer C.I. Scofield to bring truth to the world, dispensationalism us a lie.

C.I Scofield did not create scripture. And you have already proved you Do
Not understand what he believes or what we believe

So instead of attacking a person why don’t you start discussing what the bible says. It would make things much
More productive and a lot less argumentative

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What would be the point of that?

what is the point of looking at any history and the background of any view? To put things in perspective and try to put ourselves in their shoes to understand why they believe some things

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Gods plan is to save anyone who believes the gospel, whether Jew or gentile and his plan never was put on hold.

No one said it was

When Paul speaks of salvation coming to the gentiles because of "patrial blindness" of the Jews, he means unbelieving Jews killed Jesus and by his subsequent resurrection, the gospel was spread to the whole world. He says,

Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. Rom.11:31

He means by preaching the gospel to them, now, not later.

Yep. And he also said at some time all of them will. So because if this. We should not be so arrogant because just as they fell we can fall also

 

[Truth7t7]

And myself. C.I. Scofield and I assume John Darby would agree with you. We believe there is one covenant between God and man where by anyone whether Jew or gentile is or has ever been saved
Maybe if you would study more you would see this. But like many. You just believe what your told.


C.I Scofield did not create scripture. And you have already proved you Do
Not understand what he believes or what we believe

So instead of attacking a person why don’t you start discussing what the bible says. It would make things much
More productive and a lot less argumentative

Perhaps you need to understand who Scofield was, and what his reference bible taught, then you will be a little more understanding on how dispensationalism spread throughout the world.

Adulterer Scofield is the godfather of modern dispensationalism, hands down.

 

[Truth7t7]

No one said it was


Yep. And he also said at some time all of them will. So because if this. We should not be so arrogant because just as they fell we can fall also

Not all Jews are going to be saved, only the chosen remnant elect will be saved the 1/3

You fail to acknowledge that 2/3 are cut off and (DIE)

Zechariah 13:8-9KJV
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Perhaps you need to understand who Scofield was, and what his reference bible taught, then you will be a little more understanding on how dispensationalism spread throughout the world.

Adulterer Scofield is the godfather of modern dispensationalism, hands down.

Dude I grew up on the Scofield reference Bible (KJV) and I still use the New Scofield in the new King James Version so don’t try to tell me what he believes because I know
by the way Kung David was a murderous adulterer. Should I ignore the psalms? Because he was not a very righteous person?

Why are you afraid to discuss what the bible actually says. It seems all you want to do is attack a man you never met and a belief system you have already shown you do not understand? That will get us no where My friend.