The 10 Commandments

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Blik said:
It is a set policy of Suntonians to not use scripture, but opinions. They do not post anything positive, only judgments of others, opinions, and trying to harm anyone who dares quote scripture about God establishing a Sabbath. They try to make their opinions so set that they equate it to salvation, when it is a way to live after swalvation, not anything that establishes salvation. They use God's word as an excuse to induldge in sinful ways of judging others, and making false accusations.

In the kingdom of heaven, there is room for different doctrines, but there is no room for these false accusations or judgments of others.
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This is an awful accusatory post here. I suggest you do unto Others What you are asking them to do to you and stop falsely accusing them
 
Blik said:
Being under faith not law is not an excuse for lawlessness, it is a matter of Christ forgiving our sin.
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How about being under faith and keeping the law

REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS.
 
Wall said:
Well... your right im gonna refuse to answer. I dont even know what boating the sabbath means
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You would not answer anyway, that was supposed to say obeying the sabbath. i only asked multiple times

nice attitude
 
Wall said:
How about being under faith and keeping the law

REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND THE FAITH OF JESUS.
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Are you perfect?

if not, you do not keep the law
 
GandalfTheWhite said:
The only thing that is debatable out of the 10 commandments is the 4th commandment. The rest is moral law, even in our modern age... Unless you are an atheist or an idol worshipper then you might look at 6 or 7.

My keeping the Sabbath has got nothing to do with me "earning" my salvation. I am obedient to God and it is between me and Him. If I falter I don't repent to CC's members :) I discuss it with Abba Father Himself ;)
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Nothing is debatable about the 10 commandments. People just think they can debate the Sabbath. But it turns out all the verse they have given are just reaching for straws and just try to excuse their own actions.
eternally-gratefull said:
you Seem stuck on a ppreconcieved notion of what i am talking about

i am talking about what it means to obey the sabbath and Asking those who claim they are, to tell us how and what it means

you Speaking about a totally different subject (salvation by works). That is not my objective in this conversation
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What about Col 2:14? you seem to have lost your focus.
 
laymen said:
What about Col 2:14? you seem to have lost your focus.
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my focus?
my focus here is getting someone to tell me what obeying the sabbath looks like
Col 2 does not have a thing to do with thiS
how long are you going to deflect the true purpose of our conversation?
you accuse me of something that is not true. That’s breaking a command you should be ashamed
 
laymen said:
I think I smell a troll.
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Moses said they must obey every word. Paul reiterated it in gal 3

If I am a troll I am a troll that speaks truth

You want to water the law down feel free.
 
laymen said:
The Bible. ;)
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James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

james claim we can be perfect in all things, yet just stumble in one point we are guilty,

I guess James is a troll

Gal 3: 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.

I guess Paul is a troll, he said whoever is not perfect is under a curse, because it is is written, whoever does not obey every word is cursed

you may know words of the Bible, but you are showing you do not know the Bible very well
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
James 2:10
For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.

james claim we can be perfect in all things, yet just stumble in one point we are guilty,

I guess James is a troll

Gal 3: 10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse; for it is written, “Cursed iseveryone who does not continue in all things which are written in the book of the law, to do them.

I guess Paul is a troll, he said whoever is not perfect is under a curse, because it is is written, whoever does not obey every word is cursed

you may know words of the Bible, but you are showing you do not know the Bible very well
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laymen said:
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How about doing that with scripture?
I am here to discuss the word, not listen to what someone else thinks,

can you do it’s.

ps, you still can’t keep the law, all it takes is one sin and you failed, in other words, you failed along time ago and continue to fail
 
eternally-gratefull said:
How about doing that with scripture?
I am here to discuss the word, not listen to what someone else thinks,

can you do it’s.

ps, you still can’t keep the law, all it takes is one sin and you failed, in other words, you failed along time ago and continue to fail
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The discussion has been about the bible the whole time.
 
eternally-gratefull said:
ps, you still can’t keep the law, all it takes is one sin and you failed, in other words, you failed along time ago and continue to fail
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My friend, nobody except One could "keep the law" to perfection. The law was never an instrument given to us for salvation but it pointed us to sin.

We really need to get past this; we all know nobody can keep the Law perfectly and I have never seen anybody claiming it.

If we all can stand back and look at this topic the reality is that 9/10 commandments are not even a point for discussion because we will automatically try to keep them. The one we are all debating, ever, is the Sabbath. I will rather try to be obedient to the Word of God and if I fail repent, than take the ostrich approach and hide my head in the sand.

And again, nobody can judge anybody about anything because we are all guilty sinners. Let us wait for our King to do that :) God bless my dear brother in Christ.
 
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