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There was no fraud. The cult of the great orange one just can't admit defeat
4 years of this buffoonery is enough
America has spoken
For starts;
  • PA Governance changed State voting Laws without Legislation approval.
  • Philadelphia Election Observers were forced to stand 30’-100’ away from vote counting. Giuliani claims that over 450,000 votes were un-observed and fraudulent.
  • PA Postal worker was directed to back date ballot envelops by his employer.
  • 23,000 blue ballots appeared over-night and found in PA;
  • 450,000 ballots only voted for Biden and no other items on the ballot…
  • MI -Republican Poll Challengers were removed from Detroit Election Stations for large periods of time.
  • MI – a county in Michigan identified a Dominion software glitch that resulted in changing 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden. The same Dominion software is used in 47 other polling locations in Michigan and 30 other states.
  • 135,000 blue ballots appeared over-night via a van and found in Detroit MI where Poll Observers were not allowed back into the room…
  • NV – witnesses claim that 1000 votes were filled out at one time at a Biden/Harris van outside an election station.
  • NV – Las Vegas Election Observers were asked to leave with 1 ½ hours of work left to do on day one of the election.
  • AZ – had a sharpie scandal where in several election locations voters were handed sharpies (that their website says should not be used as they bleed thru)…
  • AZ - Maricopa county reports that substantial number of votes were wrongly rejected.
  • Why did they stop counting suddenly in Mich., Wisconsin and Pennsylvania? When they come back on line one block of 139,000 votes are counted – every last one for Joe. Every last one.
  • Why did the penn court rule signatures don’t have to match?
  • Big Tech altering algorthyms to favor dems, squashing game changing events, censoring the prez as well as conservative voices online.
Why do you fear transparency? Wouldn’t an open investigation be an affirmation of your triumph and put all doubt to rest? What do you fear - the truth?
 
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I don’t think he’s 1/10th as ‘difficult’ as portrayed - it’s the unrelenting media narrative for 4 solid years.
95 % of the media truly hates him and have lied and distorted about everything he’s done - I’ve never seen anything like it.

If the current electoral fraud succeeds – it’s over. Fair and balanced elections will be a thing of the past – the media, the left and Big Tech will make certain of it. Trump despite his 'warts' is the only one standing in the way.
well they cannot pass any laws if the Senate is retained I think

as far as the media goes, they also hate God and Christians and anything that stands in the way of their aligning themselves with the devil

when a party makes baby killing the rallying point of their so called platform, you know it can't be good

the party of no truth and nothing but no truth, has lost I believe, 4 seats in the House at the moment, with some democrats saying they will not vote for court packing, which of course would still leave the 'kill babies all the time if you want to' Roe vs Wade decision in tact, rather than the jeopardy they believe it might be in if the cannot crowd fund the judges

of course Daddy Joe would still have a pen, but he might be loosing the ability to use it

Harris, with her power hungry trippin', cannot stop smiling as she envisions herself as owing the nuke codes

not sure they would allow her that easter egg, but since common sense has permanently fled the democrats, who knows
 
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I dont think people hating him means hes a good respectable president or a responsible adult in anyway. Alot of people hate him because hes very difficult to get along with. Anything he did that was good will probably be reversed in a new administration. I also have a feeling Pence was behind a lot
Tbh I would vote for Pence as he seems far mor level headed.
oh dear

he is hated by the left because they do not own him. he has not made himself rich on immoral overseas deals with countries that are the enemies of the US nor has he allowed the unfair trade practices this country suffered under, to continue. He is not difficult to get along with. New flash: everything good he did would not be reversed. Gonna be difficult to put the capital of Israel somewhere else other than Jerusalem now for instance.

you have not exhibited any actual knowledge other that accepting what others have said. Who do you think picked Pence for his VP? The Easter Bunny? maybe Pelosi? TRUMP picked him. that should tell you something as well

your feelings are devoid of facts. sorry, but if a person wishes to beat on Trump, or anyone really, they need hard evidence and not how they feel because they heard something somewhere

oh and let's not forget that he also dared to disagree with one of the main tenets of the Democrat Bible: thou shalt abort babies at all stages and thou shalt kill or allow to die any infant born alive
 

Roughsoul1991

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Yes funny how a large percentage of the population only cares about civil rights when it benefits them
why is there always a collective poop storm when a Muslim gets appointed to a government position or a judge
My problem is that a lot of people seem to think ONLY Christians are supposed to have civil rights
Remember the massive poopy fit everyone had when the satanic cable wanted their monument
Or when supreme Court ruled that same-sex marriage is a constitutional right?
Okay so since I have explained this country and its laws we're by majority built on the Bible.

Let me ask you a question. Is Islam and Shariah law compatible with American law? Talking about theocracy, you should be hesitant about Islam.


Take Thomas Jefferson who was involved in the first war on terror against Islam.

Fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen.

A religion based on supremacy, whose holy book not only condoned but mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him. Your religion cannot violate the rights of others. As to why you cannot start a religion just to break the law.

Jefferson bought a Quran to understand his enemy's beliefs.

Why the Quran Was a Bestseller Among Christians in 18th Century America
https://www.history.com/news/thomas-jefferson-quran-rashida-tlaib-keith-ellison

Jefferson’s Quran was a 1734 translation by a British lawyer named George Sale. It was the first direct translation of the Quran from Arabic to English (the only other English version was a translation of a French translation published in 1649), and would remain the definitive English translation of the Quran into the late 1800s. In his introduction, Sale wrote that the purpose of the book was to help Protestants understand the Quran so that they could argue against it.

So let us get this straight. If a Muslim wants to run for office, loves America as our founders intended, understands American law and wants to protect America's values and sovereignty then I would not have a problem with them.

The problem comes from knowing what they believe. Islam and Shariah law are intertwined together so it can be dangerous for American sovereignty.

Civil rights are true rights not made up. Our Constitution calls them inalienable and God-given. It was written out of natural law. Therefore homosexual marriage is not a right, not God given. It was considered a crime against nature. And unnatural.

As for Satanic cults. As I said earlier as long as they do not break the law of the land then they have the same 1st Amendment rights as anyone else.

That is the difference between liberty and freedom. We give up absolute freedom in exchange for liberty where we agree to live under a set of laws.
 

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oh dear

he is hated by the left because they do not own him. he has not made himself rich on immoral overseas deals with countries that are the enemies of the US nor has he allowed the unfair trade practices this country suffered under, to continue. He is not difficult to get along with. New flash: everything good he did would not be reversed. Gonna be difficult to put the capital of Israel somewhere else other than Jerusalem now for instance.

you have not exhibited any actual knowledge other that accepting what others have said. Who do you think picked Pence for his VP? The Easter Bunny? maybe Pelosi? TRUMP picked him. that should tell you something as well

your feelings are devoid of facts. sorry, but if a person wishes to beat on Trump, or anyone really, they need hard evidence and not how they feel because they heard something somewhere

oh and let's not forget that he also dared to disagree with one of the main tenets of the Democrat Bible: thou shalt abort babies at all stages and thou shalt kill or allow to die any infant born alive
Do you think any politician deserves the amount of praise he gets? Everything he says has some negative or inflammatory effect. Why is that okay to ignore? You blame the folks on the left but you think the right can do no wrong? Politicans are public servants, not celebrities. We give them power not the other way around. He doesnt fight for America, only himself and his delusional followers. But it doesn't really matter what I say none of you are going to listen anyway. If God tells me he's alright at the end I will admit to being wrong but if he isnt than your following another corrupt human into the gutter.
 
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Do you think any politician deserves the amount of praise he gets? Everything he says has some negative or inflammatory effect. Why is that okay to ignore? You blame the folks on the left but you think the right can do no wrong? Politicans are public servants, not celebrities. We give them power not the other way around. He doesnt fight for America, only himself and his delusional followers. But it doesn't really matter what I say none of you are going to listen anyway. If God tells me he's alright at the end I will admit to being wrong but if he isnt than your following another corrupt human into the gutter.
No worries he is not alright so you will not need to admit anything
 
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Do you think any politician deserves the amount of praise he gets? Everything he says has some negative or inflammatory effect. Why is that okay to ignore? You blame the folks on the left but you think the right can do no wrong? Politicans are public servants, not celebrities. We give them power not the other way around. He doesnt fight for America, only himself and his delusional followers. But it doesn't really matter what I say none of you are going to listen anyway. If God tells me he's alright at the end I will admit to being wrong but if he isnt than your following another corrupt human into the gutter.

you are simply offering spins and distortions

I guess you are ignoring the fact the FBI kept hidden the fact they had Hunter Bidens laptop for about a year

I'm blaming the folks on the left? can I please have that post? the folks on the left are deceived by the party ... but if you actually pay attention, you will find that the younger leftists actually have allegiance to Bernie Sanders and not Mr Daddy Joe

We give them power not the other way around.
you vote from what is offered for you to vote for. Bernie was winning and Kamala had quit the race. your votes mean less than nothing. the entire thing is rigged

But it doesn't really matter what I say none of you are going to listen anyway.
ditto. the last 4 years have fully illustrated the lies and duplicity of the left and this so called election is the cherry on top

If God tells me he's alright at the end I will admit to being wrong
God is not a politician
 

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you are simply offering spins and distortions

I guess you are ignoring the fact the FBI kept hidden the fact they had Hunter Bidens laptop for about a year

I'm blaming the folks on the left? can I please have that post? the folks on the left are deceived by the party ... but if you actually pay attention, you will find that the younger leftists actually have allegiance to Bernie Sanders and not Mr Daddy Joe



you vote from what is offered for you to vote for. Bernie was winning and Kamala had quit the race. your votes mean less than nothing. the entire thing is rigged



ditto. the last 4 years have fully illustrated the lies and duplicity of the left and this so called election is the cherry on top



God is not a politician
Okay why are you assuming I'm for Biden? Because I disagree with Trump? I dont agree with either of them. Both are a waste of a vote, and of course the systems rigged. How else would Trump or Biden get elected? Are you saying God wouldnt know if he was an alright person because hes not a politician? But as I said it's pointless were doomed with Biden or Trump. It was another lose-lose election.
 
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For starts;
  • PA Governance changed State voting Laws without Legislation approval.
  • Philadelphia Election Observers were forced to stand 30’-100’ away from vote counting. Giuliani claims that over 450,000 votes were un-observed and fraudulent.
  • PA Postal worker was directed to back date ballot envelops by his employer.
  • 23,000 blue ballots appeared over-night and found in PA;
  • 450,000 ballots only voted for Biden and no other items on the ballot…
  • MI -Republican Poll Challengers were removed from Detroit Election Stations for large periods of time.
  • MI – a county in Michigan identified a Dominion software glitch that resulted in changing 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden. The same Dominion software is used in 47 other polling locations in Michigan and 30 other states.
  • 135,000 blue ballots appeared over-night via a van and found in Detroit MI where Poll Observers were not allowed back into the room…
  • NV – witnesses claim that 1000 votes were filled out at one time at a Biden/Harris van outside an election station.
  • NV – Las Vegas Election Observers were asked to leave with 1 ½ hours of work left to do on day one of the election.
  • AZ – had a sharpie scandal where in several election locations voters were handed sharpies (that their website says should not be used as they bleed thru)…
  • AZ - Maricopa county reports that substantial number of votes were wrongly rejected.
  • Why did they stop counting suddenly in Mich., Wisconsin and Pennsylvania? When they come back on line one block of 139,000 votes are counted – every last one for Joe. Every last one.
  • Why did the penn court rule signatures don’t have to match?
  • Big Tech altering algorthyms to favor dems, squashing game changing events, censoring the prez as well as conservative voices online.
Why do you fear transparency? Wouldn’t an open investigation be an affirmation of your triumph and put all doubt to rest? What do you fear - the truth?

This reads like a coordinated, well planned and executed effort. Very impressive.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Perhaps consult corroborated original source material.
I cannot link journal articles that need to be accessed through a portal.
so you can believe me or not.

In 1793 he was in Masonic garb.
He died in 1799


You have no evidence he ever refuted Free Masonry.
Nor have you shown that Freemasonry was different then.

This is what happens when you only read material that confirms your bias.
As for the Masonic Garb, it would be according to when it was painted and one of Washington's writings explains how one of those paintings was painted without his approval and called it Masonic propaganda. This still to this day almost worship those paintings.

As for evidence on the Freemasons being different than today well here are some of the 1700s members and their explanation of what a Mason should be



While the current practice of Freemasonry studiously avoids the use of the name "Jesus" and official references to Christianity in Lodge activities or prayers, it was just the opposite for early American Lodges. For Example, in 1749, Charles Brockwell reminded a Masonic Lodge that:[
W]hoever is an upright Mason can neither be an atheist, deist, or libertine; for he is under the strictest obligation to be... a true Christian. (emphasis added)

A 1769 work by moral philosopher Wellins Calcott (1726-1779) A Candid Disquisition of the Principles and Practices of the Most Ancient and Honorable Society of Free and Accepted Masons - similarly declared:

A good Mason is a good man, and a good Christians.

And William Hutchinson's 1775 Spirit of Freemasonry similarly stated:

The Master Mason represents a man under the Christian doctrines, saved from the grave of iniquity and raised to the faith of salvation. As the great testimonial that we are risen from that state of corruption, we bear the emblem of the Holy Trinity as the insignia of our vows.

For more info, I'll post the pages of the book found in the Founders Bible including references. Most of the references are original writings taking from their journals.

Pages 2079-2081
References page 2084

I can include more writings and quotes if needed.

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In the picture is a quotation from a message given to lodges in New York.

Grand Lodge Master Rev William Walter in 1793, notice the same year as your garb picture. In the photo, you can see he was quite Biblical and encouraged the lodges to be the same.

But as I said the Masons went through securitization and the modern masonic language became deistic and fell into the signs of astrology including reports of satanic rituals.

Masonry today says that God is as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself. Big difference from the 1700s.
 
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As for the Masonic Garb, it would be according to when it was painted and one of Washington's writings explains how one of those paintings was painted without his approval and called it Masonic propaganda. This still to this day almost worship those paintings.

As for evidence on the Freemasons being different than today well here are some of the 1700s members and their explanation of what a Mason should be



While the current practice of Freemasonry studiously avoids the use of the name "Jesus" and official references to Christianity in Lodge activities or prayers, it was just the opposite for early American Lodges. For Example, in 1749, Charles Brockwell reminded a Masonic Lodge that:[
W]hoever is an upright Mason can neither be an atheist, deist, or libertine; for he is under the strictest obligation to be... a true Christian. (emphasis added)

A 1769 work by moral philosopher Wellins Calcott (1726-1779) A Candid Disquisition of the Principles and Practices of the Most Ancient and Honorable Society of Free and Accepted Masons - similarly declared:

A good Mason is a good man, and a good Christians.

And William Hutchinson's 1775 Spirit of Freemasonry similarly stated:

The Master Mason represents a man under the Christian doctrines, saved from the grave of iniquity and raised to the faith of salvation. As the great testimonial that we are risen from that state of corruption, we bear the emblem of the Holy Trinity as the insignia of our vows.

For more info, I'll post the pages of the book found in the Founders Bible including references. Most of the references are original writings taking from their journals.

Pages 2079-2081
References page 2084

I can include more writings and quotes if needed.

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In the picture is a quotation from a message given to lodges in New York.

Grand Lodge Master Rev William Walter in 1793, notice the same year as your garb picture. In the photo, you can see he was quite Biblical and encouraged the lodges to be the same.

But as I said the Masons went through securitization and the modern masonic language became deistic and fell into the signs of astrology including reports of satanic rituals.

Masonry today says that God is as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself. Big difference from the 1700s.
Devout Christians .. okay

The garb is not the painting it was what he wore for an event.

Believe as you will. His writings and burial support his allegiance to Free Masonry and it was even then based on the Mystery Religions.

Ultimately, the N.T. does not call upon Christians to impose their belief system on society but rather to spread the Gospel so that free individuals will internalize the system and live by it.

Trying to impose "the system" externally on people is back firing big time in the USA.

And sadly those that are promoting Christian nationalism are to blame.

Where did Paul spend his time and what did he do?

Did he work to impose his ideas onto the Roman Senate... NO
 
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This reads like a coordinated, well planned and executed effort. Very impressive.
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'Impressive' in a malignant sort of way. Do you condone such vileness?
Are you the sort who's OK with 'the end justify the means' sort of person?
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Roughsoul1991

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Devout Christians .. okay

The garb is not the painting it was what he wore for an event.

Believe as you will. His writings and burial support his allegiance to Free Masonry and it was even then based on the Mystery Religions.

Ultimately, the N.T. does not call upon Christians to impose their belief system on society but rather to spread the Gospel so that free individuals will internalize the system and live by it.

Trying to impose "the system" externally on people is back firing big time in the USA.

And sadly those that are promoting Christian nationalism are to blame.

Where did Paul spend his time and what did he do?

Did he work to impose his ideas onto the Roman Senate... NO
Founders were majority Christian from different denominations.

Garb or no garb as explained it was a much different group.

Ultimately, the N.T. does not call upon Christians to impose their belief system on society but rather to spread the Gospel so that free individuals will internalize the system and live by it.
No one is advocating otherwise. Nor were the founders.

Trying to impose "the system" externally on people is back firing big time in the USA.
Impose? Like what? If you are saying to push pro-life issues is called imposing my Biblical worldviews on society? If so then I am not ashamed. That is being the salt of the Earth. Helping to preserve the culture from corruption. How do you think the Roman Empire gravitated to Christianity being the main religion?

And sadly those that are promoting Christian nationalism are to blame.
No one I know is calling for that.

Where did Paul spend his time and what did he do?

Did he work to impose his ideas onto the Roman Senate... NO
Appearing Before King Agrippa, High Officials and Men of the City: (Acts 25:13-26:32) While Festus was still contemplating this turn of events, the King of the Jews, King Agrippa, and his wife, Bernice, came to Caesarea Maritima to pay their respects to the new governor. King Agrippa was the Jewish leader approved by Rome so, again, Festus needed to impress him. Festus told them all about the prisoner (Paul) and how the former governor, Felix, had left him with this dilemma. Agrippa found this very interesting and wanted to meet Paul. Felix planned a large and ostentatious gathering with Agrippa, high-ranking officials and the important men of the city. During the gathering Paul was brought before the group. Paul did not waste this opportunity to share his testimony with all of these important people. He told about his formal education, strict adherence to Jewish law and his fanatical campaign against Christians before he eventually encountered Jesus. He described, in detail, what Jesus had told him to do. Agrippa and the others were impressed with what Paul had to say.
“Then Agrippa said to Paul, Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?’
Paul replied, ‘Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.'” Acts 26:28-29, NIV​
 
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Founders were majority Christian from different denominations.

Garb or no garb as explained it was a much different group.



No one is advocating otherwise. Nor were the founders.



Impose? Like what? If you are saying to push pro-life issues is called imposing my Biblical worldviews on society? If so then I am not ashamed. That is being the salt of the Earth. Helping to preserve the culture from corruption. How do you think the Roman Empire gravitated to Christianity being the main religion?



No one I know is calling for that.



Appearing Before King Agrippa, High Officials and Men of the City: (Acts 25:13-26:32) While Festus was still contemplating this turn of events, the King of the Jews, King Agrippa, and his wife, Bernice, came to Caesarea Maritima to pay their respects to the new governor. King Agrippa was the Jewish leader approved by Rome so, again, Festus needed to impress him. Festus told them all about the prisoner (Paul) and how the former governor, Felix, had left him with this dilemma. Agrippa found this very interesting and wanted to meet Paul. Felix planned a large and ostentatious gathering with Agrippa, high-ranking officials and the important men of the city. During the gathering Paul was brought before the group. Paul did not waste this opportunity to share his testimony with all of these important people. He told about his formal education, strict adherence to Jewish law and his fanatical campaign against Christians before he eventually encountered Jesus. He described, in detail, what Jesus had told him to do. Agrippa and the others were impressed with what Paul had to say.
“Then Agrippa said to Paul, Do you think that in such a short time you can persuade me to be a Christian?’​
Paul replied, ‘Short time or long—I pray to God that not only you but all who are listening to me today may become what I am, except for these chains.'” Acts 26:28-29, NIV​
Yeah did he tell people about Jesus or the ten commandments?
Exactly my point.

You are not getting my point, the reason the USA is becoming increasingly secular is because the focus of the church has changed from simply sharing the Gospel to trying to maintain/impose its system of values and morals on society and that is not working.
 
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I already know responding to this is not going to turn out well but what the heck... here goes.... How will a Truckers strike which would cause hardship for millions of business and people expecting goods result in "taking back America"?
Will only those guilty of voter fraud not get their goods delivered?

I guess it's their way of peaceful protest. Doubt it will do any more damage to businesses and people than burning down cities and beating/murdering people in the street. ( shrug)
 
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Yeah did he tell people about Jesus or the ten commandments?
Exactly my point.

You are not getting my point, the reason the USA is becoming increasingly secular is because the focus of the church has changed from simply sharing the Gospel to trying to maintain/impose its system of values and morals on society and that is not working.

You know it was said many years ago that there would be a need to send missionaries to America. No one at that time could understand why. Now we can.

We "impose" and have always imposed values and morals on society. You can't murder someone, you cannot slander a person, you cannot do sell or do drugs. You cannot abuse your children. You cannot abuse your wife/husband. You cannot abuse your pets. You cannot have sex with an underage person. You cannot sexually harass your coworker. You cannot steal, you cannot drive drunk. I can go on and on and on. We have always had values and morals imposed on society. Otherwise you have anarchy. Where do you suppose it will stop if we don't have morals and values?! What do you think will be pushed next? We have gay marriage, transgenders, 60+ different genders that you must accept, and pedophilia coming up as the next agenda to be pushed. How far down as a society are we willing to go before they send missionaries to America? smh
 

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There was no fraud. The cult of the great orange one just can't admit defeat
4 years of this buffoonery is enough America has spoken
Your hate for Trump and absolute bias is really showing. ;)
 
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You know it was said many years ago that there would be a need to send missionaries to America. No one at that time could understand why. Now we can.

We "impose" and have always imposed values and morals on society. You can't murder someone, you cannot slander a person, you cannot do sell or do drugs. You cannot abuse your children. You cannot abuse your wife/husband. You cannot abuse your pets. You cannot have sex with an underage person. You cannot sexually harass your coworker. You cannot steal, you cannot drive drunk. I can go on and on and on. We have always had values and morals imposed on society. Otherwise you have anarchy. Where do you suppose it will stop if we don't have morals and values?! What do you think will be pushed next? We have gay marriage, transgenders, 60+ different genders that you must accept, and pedophilia coming up as the next agenda to be pushed. How far down as a society are we willing to go before they send missionaries to America? smh

Roman Law >>> juris civile and juris gentium
 

Ogom

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Okay why are you assuming I'm for Biden? Because I disagree with Trump? I dont agree with either of them. Both are a waste of a vote, and of course the systems rigged. How else would Trump or Biden get elected? Are you saying God wouldnt know if he was an alright person because hes not a politician? But as I said it's pointless were doomed with Biden or Trump. It was another lose-lose election.

we should vote fot the greater good. it is not a waste of a vote if you try to bring about good and stop evil at the same time.

when you have a chance to stop evils from happening in big ways step out in faith as God leads. ask Him what good you can do and to help (open) your understanding to any and all good you can or should do by voting one way or another.
 

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'Impressive' in a malignant sort of way. Do you condone such vileness?
Are you the sort who's OK with 'the end justify the means' sort of person?
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if we want to prove we are good people or we want people to trust us and not doubt us we should act like good people as much as we humanly can.



20For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.



21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.