A private owned Media company is under no obligation to honor your free speech. Same reason I don't have free speech in your house. You can tell me to leave at any timeSo? It's still censorship. And, so much for free speech
Who will Win
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Also I don't believe there was any fraud. I believe he legitimately lost. America is smoking and we are tired of having a president who acts 5 years old
I think his blowing off science and doctors during a pandemic was the final straw for a lot of Americans
I think his blowing off science and doctors during a pandemic was the final straw for a lot of Americans
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lenna
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I am disappointed in some people on this forum and I am fine with them knowing that I am; it is obvious they would not care anyway
I am not about judging who is or who is not a Christian, but I am not above saying some of the Christians are more than a little deceived
further, and I find myself about to say something I have not considered saying before especially since I am not American either, someone who does not live in this country does not know what they are talking about when they say there is no proof of fraud
I have seen plenty myself in the news and these are not grainy, murky out of focus videos either. I don't have to provide proof or clog up the thread with videos or links. anyone who actually IS interested in the truth, can find and judge for themselves what is out there to see and make yourself aware of
https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/0...ty-tallied-6000-republican-votes-as-democrat/
https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...county-election-2020-race-results/6184186002/
“Apparently, there was a technical glitch in Rochester Hills. And so I actually ended up winning by a little over 1,100 votes,” said a chuckling Kochenderfer.
oh man. my tennis game is awful ever since i took up racquetball -- much shorter racket, way different swing.
best of luck
6-2 , 6-2, 4-6, 6-4 VICTORY!! Almost as large as the Electoral victory President Trump has with legal ballots
OK. Getting to you. This is what YOU said in post 108:
Posthuman "the fact that one wicked, worldly gang is more brazenly evil than the other evil, wicked, worldly gang doesn't make it rational to choose or much less to willingly advertise for the less overtly wicked, evil, worldly gang."
You said you voted 3rd party or write in. 1st question would be, is the write in candidate somehow NOT worldly, with perfect character and policies?
2nd would be, since you absolutely KNOW that any write in or 3rd party candidate has less of a chance of winning than a person dying of Covid, (now at 0.1%), you get to enjoy ALL the enormous benefits of what has been the best and greatest nation on Earth without taking any of the responsibilities associated with it. How do you rationalize those facts to yourself?
People are scared, misinformed, some are happy, some sad, some are disconnected, while others are ignorant to the truth at hand. Some have been taught to hate this country.
Either way, a direct opposite dose of Trump will show the world and middle voters exactly what is at stake.
Maybe they are only connected to certain media sites like the mainstream. I no longer even watch mainstream media. Even the headlines can make something sound like it wasn't a big deal.
For example, just imagine this is only what they caught. And we saw all this happening before the election too.
An upstate USPS employee was arrested Tuesday while crossing the US-Canada border with hundreds of envelopes and other undelivered mail — including several absentee ballots.
The Buffalo mailman, who was caught with over 800 pieces of mail inside his trunk that he had failed to deliver, said he had ended up on a bridge between the US and its neighbor to the north by accident, the Buffalo News reported.
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From Biden's official platform site:
A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS
immigrants are not illegals Mr. Joe
It is a moral failing and a national shame when a father and his baby daughter drown seeking our shores.
but not when one of those illegals kills an American Mr Joe? not when MS13 gang members torture and dismember immigrants and or Americans Mr Joe? not when these same illegals vote illegally Mr Joe? you are ok with sanctuary cities Mr Joe? cities in which criminals are protected and actual Americans cannot and do not receive that same protection?
Nice going Mr Joe.
When children are locked away in overcrowded detention centers and the government seeks to keep them there indefinitely.
ah Joe. there is that faulty memory of yours again. tsk. do you remember your true blue friend Mr Obama? He is the one that created those situations and built those enclosures...or 'cages' as you folks like to call them. I guess you were too busy making deals with countries who are the enemies of America.
When our government argues in court against giving those children toothbrushes and soap.
May we please have solid evidence proof that occured Mr Joe? sounds suspiciously like one of your countless lies.
When President Trump uses family separation as a weapon against desperate mothers, fathers, and children seeking safety and a better life.
while you did nothing when Obama actually put out more illegals with their children then has Trump. but then again I guess you were busy counting money or something
When he threatens massive raids that would break up families who have been in this country for years and targets people at sensitive locations like hospitals and schools.
oh dear. while I know you were not VP when the sad GOP actually had the house and senate, I guess you do not remember the Trump administration offering a pathway to citizenship even though the people you speak of were here illegally? forget about that did you?
such a convenient and comforting memory you have. your party opposed that though because it did not suit their purposes.
so it didn't get done
When children die while in custody due to lack of adequate care.
I would laugh at this one, Mr Joe, because of your total lack of honesty, but since children are involved, it is another sad commentary on how you use people. children included. the children who died were sick when they arrived here. they received proper care from doctors. one even died from dehydration. you are a liar Mr Joe. not good
Trump has waged an unrelenting assault on our values and our history as a nation of immigrants.
no. that is what you are doing Mr Joe. if we look at your values (well the values of those who have put you up as their figurehead because you are so easily manipulated and they will get what they want through you), we will find baby killing even up to the age of three years old (that might have a hard time working for now, but the people espousing that, have time no doubt), selling parts of the murdered babies so rich women can retain their firm skin, allowing riots and destruction of private property, creating such massive debt with the programs you think you can impose on the county and so on and so forth
these are not good things Mr. Joe. oh..and one more thing...you are not a Catholic. you are an unclean vessel through which many lies have passed and more no doubt on the way
A NATION OF IMMIGRANTS
immigrants are not illegals Mr. Joe
It is a moral failing and a national shame when a father and his baby daughter drown seeking our shores.
but not when one of those illegals kills an American Mr Joe? not when MS13 gang members torture and dismember immigrants and or Americans Mr Joe? not when these same illegals vote illegally Mr Joe? you are ok with sanctuary cities Mr Joe? cities in which criminals are protected and actual Americans cannot and do not receive that same protection?
Nice going Mr Joe.
When children are locked away in overcrowded detention centers and the government seeks to keep them there indefinitely.
ah Joe. there is that faulty memory of yours again. tsk. do you remember your true blue friend Mr Obama? He is the one that created those situations and built those enclosures...or 'cages' as you folks like to call them. I guess you were too busy making deals with countries who are the enemies of America.
When our government argues in court against giving those children toothbrushes and soap.
May we please have solid evidence proof that occured Mr Joe? sounds suspiciously like one of your countless lies.
When President Trump uses family separation as a weapon against desperate mothers, fathers, and children seeking safety and a better life.
while you did nothing when Obama actually put out more illegals with their children then has Trump. but then again I guess you were busy counting money or something
When he threatens massive raids that would break up families who have been in this country for years and targets people at sensitive locations like hospitals and schools.
oh dear. while I know you were not VP when the sad GOP actually had the house and senate, I guess you do not remember the Trump administration offering a pathway to citizenship even though the people you speak of were here illegally? forget about that did you?
such a convenient and comforting memory you have. your party opposed that though because it did not suit their purposes.
so it didn't get done
When children die while in custody due to lack of adequate care.
I would laugh at this one, Mr Joe, because of your total lack of honesty, but since children are involved, it is another sad commentary on how you use people. children included. the children who died were sick when they arrived here. they received proper care from doctors. one even died from dehydration. you are a liar Mr Joe. not good
Trump has waged an unrelenting assault on our values and our history as a nation of immigrants.
no. that is what you are doing Mr Joe. if we look at your values (well the values of those who have put you up as their figurehead because you are so easily manipulated and they will get what they want through you), we will find baby killing even up to the age of three years old (that might have a hard time working for now, but the people espousing that, have time no doubt), selling parts of the murdered babies so rich women can retain their firm skin, allowing riots and destruction of private property, creating such massive debt with the programs you think you can impose on the county and so on and so forth
these are not good things Mr. Joe. oh..and one more thing...you are not a Catholic. you are an unclean vessel through which many lies have passed and more no doubt on the way
I will say this, and I get no joy in saying it.
Over the past several days, I have spoken to 3 people, 2 of which were women and are not at all deeply entrenched in politics. They all said some variant of, if the fraud is not overturned, and if President Trump were to set up some sort of Government in a state that refused to recognize the illegitimate president elect, they would not only support it, but actually move there.
THAT is how bitterly angry people are at what has transpired here.
I want to be CLEAR. I am neither endorsing nor opposing that idea. I am simply reporting it.
But let that sink in. If THESE people, who are literally your average, ordinary, law abiding citizen are THIS outraged, what do you think the crazies are thinking?
Over the past several days, I have spoken to 3 people, 2 of which were women and are not at all deeply entrenched in politics. They all said some variant of, if the fraud is not overturned, and if President Trump were to set up some sort of Government in a state that refused to recognize the illegitimate president elect, they would not only support it, but actually move there.
THAT is how bitterly angry people are at what has transpired here.
I want to be CLEAR. I am neither endorsing nor opposing that idea. I am simply reporting it.
But let that sink in. If THESE people, who are literally your average, ordinary, law abiding citizen are THIS outraged, what do you think the crazies are thinking?
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EleventhHour
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Agree
Private, for profit platforms are not really the public square, and internet companies are not governments.
CC is not a public square and neither is Twitter.
Yeah that's not a thing, if you slander or libel someone you can be sued
That's why Fox news was sued for libel by the family of the Sandy Hook victims
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EleventhHour
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https://thefederalist.com/2020/11/0...ty-tallied-6000-republican-votes-as-democrat/
This was a software glitch, that is not fraud.
Also, how many votes would need to be fraudulent to change the course of this election, a lot more than this.
"election officials expelling Republican poll challengers from counting rooms, illegally filling out ballots, and in Detroit, and covering up windows into counting rooms to prevent legal peering and observation"
Both sides were limited because there were too many and when brought to court it was dismissed.
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EleventhHour
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Exactly, freedom of expression is not a "carte blanche" to say whatever we want, whenever we want, there are limits it is not an absolute right.
What the framers of the Constitution had in mind were fundamental rights not absolute rights, same in Canada
There is a big difference.
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EleventhHour
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For the results to be different one needs to find evidence of systemic and conspiratorial fraud not just individuals going rogue.
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lenna
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this was not a one time (cough cough) glitch
and how about putting white sheets in windows so that excluded conservatives could not observe the counting process as the law stipulates?
was that also a glitch? or stamping ballots received after the 3rd with a postmark of the 3rd? federal offense
the so called fact checkers are nothing but water carriers for the left
walking, talking billboards
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lenna
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fraud is fraud
multiply fraud several times in one state and the election results are skewed
you seem determined, from Canada, to know more than folks living here
yes I said that
I don't know what you mean by, "that's not a thing." It seems you are denying that censorship exists. Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions (such as media companies), and other controlling bodies.
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