Today’s church’s misunderstandings
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He can and must believe the Gospel to be saved. Our faith is the prerequisite to be saved.
Of course . Thats the answer to every question in a Sunday school class . " Jesus !! "
Just a bible believer. I know what the word Torah means but not sure in this context of a church .
I have no problem with another brother who is observing a particular day ect . Honestly I would class the person as a weaker brother in this area. The issue is when someone say you must observe the sabbath .
col 2.16
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days
Gal 4
9But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
10Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
11I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
I understand what you want to convey here. I my self do not lump the 7th Day Sabbath in with theses ceremonial sabbaths.
I agree. If I ever state anything that you find is not from scripture, please be kind enough to me to point it out to me. Give me the correct scripture so I may learn the ways of the Lord. I never, ever want to report anything scripture tells us from my fleshly thoughts, I belong to the Lord.
But even the demons have faith in Jesus and they tremble. We are to use what Jesus did for us by giving our sins to Him for forgiveness. We are not to keep our sins, but through faith in that Jesus has the power to wipe them out, we give up our sins to Him. We are flesh, and we are not perfect, we always, every day need Jesus.
So, the 10 Commandments don't apply to everyone else? So, it's OK to commit murder and adultery, or worship other God's? Coveting your neighbor's wife or goods? These aren't sins anymore? Is there anything that would be considered a sin?
You need a ' do not murder ' to stop you ? My point is that the law is not the standard to live by ..Grace is
We are instructed to remember the Sabbath because it is the 4th commandment written by the finger of God. God did not say forget about the Sabbath but rather to remember it. How should we remember it? I really don't know but that's just me.
Without the law there is no sin. It says that in the bible somewhere. Google it if you must. No, even if there was not a commandment pertaining to murder I wouldn't go out and kill someone.
Yes we have the knowledge of sin through the law . Now how to live as a believer is not UNDER law but grace . You will never grow under law.