The fourth beast in Daniel 7 who devours the whole earth?

[luigi]

5. A MALE GOAT (shaggy v21)coming from the west (Greece).

The GOAT had a CONSPICUOUS HORN between his eyes: This is Alexander the Great, who “did not touch the ground”, a word picture of how easily and quickly he conquered every nation he invaded. He did as he pleased (was powerful) and magnified himself ( and he was boastful) His army swept over Asia Minor, Syria, Egypt and Mesopotamia from 334-331 AD….extremely fast for the times.

Besides the fact that Gabriel informs us to the events in Daniel 8 regard the end time, so too are these events related with greater detail in Daniel 11. When Daniel then inquires to their meaning (Daniel 12:8), Daniel is then told that these events are closed and sealed till the time of the end (Daniel 12:9), at which time knowledge of these events will increase (Daniel 12:4). We are now in the end times, the book is unsealed, and our knowledge of these events is increasing.

Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

 

[Waggles]

While it is a fact that Rome conquered Europe, the Middle East. and some of North Africa in Christ's time; does Rome constitute the beast with ten horns who devours the whole world at the end of the age as indicated by the angel Gabriel in Daniel 8:17 & 19?

YES it is the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church - which are anti-Christ for they work to destroy the true gospel of salvation
and devour souls.

 

[Alertandawake]

According to a Rabbi who researched the orig Hebrew, the anti-Christ will be of an different nature than human and he will force all nations to worship him. Maybe this relates to him and his domination of the nations.

In the age we live in, this could relate to a technological type of being, maybe man like in appearance but not entirely human?

Now in this age of nanotechnology, one has to ask could the antimessiah himself be some kind of being that at some point could of been a man but has state of the art self healing nanobots injected in him making himself something different?

Following this line of logic and reasoning, such a being could be technologically immortal? Question, in this day and age, if such a being exists, that has state of the art self healing nanobots, how could someone stand up or even challenge such a being?

 

[luigi]

YES it is the Papacy and the Roman Catholic Church - which are anti-Christ for they work to destroy the true gospel of salvation
and devour souls.

I don't think the Papacy and Roman Catholic Church have the persona of being dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly, with great iron teeth.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

 

[TabinRivCA]

In the age we live in, this could relate to a technological type of being, maybe man like in appearance but not entirely human?

Now in this age of nanotechnology, one has to ask could the antimessiah himself be some kind of being that at some point could of been a man but has state of the art self healing nanobots injected in him making himself something different?

Following this line of logic and reasoning, such a being could be technologically immortal? Question, in this day and age, if such a being exists, that has state of the art self healing nanobots, how could someone stand up or even challenge such a being?

The two witnesses who the beast couldn't touch for three and one-half yrs were killed by him, possibly because their mission was over. The world must be extremely horrific at that time because the people will rejoice over their death (then resurrection). Some ideas re the anti-Christ was as you said some sort of AI, transhumanism or ET, short for demons was mentioned.

 

[Alertandawake]

Thing is, if we see where this world is going, so many of these so called educated people around the world today, all their faith is being put into "technology". There are those who seem to think that to combat the the threat of AI, man must merge with machines in order to compete. Can you believe this nonsense?

And so many buy this garbage.

Thing is, telling people they need to become part man part machine, for example a borg drone, in order to survive in a world with AI, to compare, is like telling someone they need to have a electronic implant identification device for the purpose of financial transactions in a monetary system where the only acceptable method of financial transactions is electronic and digital and such a implant is needed to verify the transaction was done by the individual concerned.

See where we are headed.

 

[luigi]

Thing is, if we see where this world is going, so many of these so called educated people around the world today, all their faith is being put into "technology". There are those who seem to think that to combat the the threat of AI, man must merge with machines in order to compete. Can you believe this nonsense?

And so many buy this garbage.

Thing is, telling people they need to become part man part machine, for example a borg drone, in order to survive in a world with AI, to compare, is like telling someone they need to have a electronic implant identification device for the purpose of financial transactions in a monetary system where the only acceptable method of financial transactions is electronic and digital and such a implant is needed to verify the transaction was done by the individual concerned.

See where we are headed.

The Lords Word does say that those not written in the book of life will be infatuated with all the miracles (technological goodies) the beast and his system will produce.

Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

 

[Waggles]

I don't think the Papacy and Roman Catholic Church have the persona of being dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly, with great iron teeth.

First; imperial Rome was brutal and terrifying. Caesar conquered through genocide of the Celts and was heralded a hero of Rome
for his great conquests of the barbarians.
Then came Judah and the slaughter and destruction and enslavement of an entire nation of some six million Jewish people
from babies to the elderly - none were spared.
Then comes a new Rome out of the ashes of the old fallen imperial Rome > 606AD Boniface III becomes the first Bishop of Rome
to claim all authority over every other Bishop throughout Christendom > the Papacy begins > the Roman Catholic Church which
readily martyr over the centuries all who oppose her and preaches another gospel.
At the times of the Reformation the RCC and the Popes call on the faithful to slaughter and burn at the stake Bible translators,
reformers, the Moravians, Lutherans and other Protestants.
Let us not forget the bloody history of the Inquisition and their love of torture.
In the 1600s the Catholics again slaughtered some half-a-million French Protestants - the Huguenots and then the Pope issued a
solid gold medal to commemorate this.
The Roman Catholic Church and the Papacy have slaughtered, martyred and butchered millions of people of the centuries and
she is still unrepentant of her sins.
Hence she is the beast and mystery Babylon whose sins are an abomination to God.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The ten horns refer to the ten lost tribes of Israel which became Europe with her ten principal nations.

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

In Daniel 7 there appears a fourth beast different from the three other beasts as it devours the whole earth.
With the understanding that the four separate beasts in Daniel 7 are the unified world order of nations in Revelation 13, which of the worlds nations would you then suspect is represented by the fourth beast who devours/consumes the whole earth?
Would it not be first world nations who currently are the major consumers of the earths resources, and go to war with other nations in order to secure the natural resources required to their game of monopoly going?

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

4th beast of Daniel 7 is the Roman Republic (10 horns) that changes into the Roman Empire (one little horn).

Daniel 7: 11
I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn’s boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Daniel 7:11 is spiritual truth about the defeat of satan at the cross. Most people don't see this because they are not interested in spiritual truth and spiritual salvation. The many interpretations of the 4th beast is wrong because they don't see the spiritual truth in it.

 

[luigi]

4th beast of Daniel 7 is the Roman Republic (10 horns) that changes into the Roman Empire (one little horn).

Daniel 7: 11
I continued to watch because I could hear the little horn’s boastful speech. I kept watching until the fourth beast was killed and its body was destroyed by fire.

Daniel 7:11 is spiritual truth about the defeat of satan at the cross. Most people don't see this because they are not interested in spiritual truth and spiritual salvation. The many interpretations of the 4th beast is wrong because they don't see the spiritual truth in it.

Good morning Nebuchadnezzer,
Because the Lord foresaw all that would occur throughout mankind's span on earth when the devil would be in power deceiving all the world (Revelation 12:9), the Lord thereby provides numerous correlations in scriptures to ascertain the true meaning of what is being represented, thereby eliminating Satan's deceptive false interpretations of the Word.
The fourth beast with 10 horns in Daniel 7, we see also in Revelation 13, who in alliance with the little horn, (aka the beasts mouth, described in both Daniel 7 and Revelation 13), initiates the one world order, with the other diverse beasts (world governments). The dragon, after being cast out into the earth, with the beast and its mouth are given 42 months in which to make one last go at making a functional working system on earth, which ultimately fails. This has not happened yet. Things on earth have to totally collapse first, prior to Satan being cast out into the earth, at which time, knowing his time is short (42 months), will give his power and authority to the 7 headed, 10 horned beast, to initiate his one final go at making things work on earth.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[luigi]

First; imperial Rome was brutal and terrifying. Caesar conquered through genocide of the Celts and was heralded a hero of Rome
for his great conquests of the barbarians.
Then came Judah and the slaughter and destruction and enslavement of an entire nation of some six million Jewish people
from babies to the elderly - none were spared.
Then comes a new Rome out of the ashes of the old fallen imperial Rome > 606AD Boniface III becomes the first Bishop of Rome
to claim all authority over every other Bishop throughout Christendom > the Papacy begins > the Roman Catholic Church which
readily martyr over the centuries all who oppose her and preaches another gospel.
At the times of the Reformation the RCC and the Popes call on the faithful to slaughter and burn at the stake Bible translators,
reformers, the Moravians, Lutherans and other Protestants.
Let us not forget the bloody history of the Inquisition and their love of torture.
In the 1600s the Catholics again slaughtered some half-a-million French Protestants - the Huguenots and then the Pope issued a
solid gold medal to commemorate this.
The Roman Catholic Church and the Papacy have slaughtered, martyred and butchered millions of people of the centuries and
she is still unrepentant of her sins.
Hence she is the beast and mystery Babylon whose sins are an abomination to God.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

The ten horns refer to the ten lost tribes of Israel which became Europe with her ten principal nations.

Sorry to not have gotten back to you on your reply Waggles. I was unaware of your response. Please look at my response in Post #50, which shows why the fourth beast represents a final end time system.

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

Good morning Nebuchadnezzer,
Because the Lord foresaw all that would occur throughout mankind's span on earth when the devil would be in power deceiving all the world (Revelation 12:9), the Lord thereby provides numerous correlations in scriptures to ascertain the true meaning of what is being represented, thereby eliminating Satan's deceptive false interpretations of the Word.
The fourth beast with 10 horns in Daniel 7, we see also in Revelation 13, who in alliance with the little horn, (aka the beasts mouth, described in both Daniel 7 and Revelation 13), initiates the one world order, with the other diverse beasts (world governments). The dragon, after being cast out into the earth, with the beast and its mouth are given 42 months in which to make one last go at making a functional working system on earth, which ultimately fails. This has not happened yet. Things on earth have to totally collapse first, prior to Satan being cast out into the earth, at which time, knowing his time is short (42 months), will give his power and authority to the 7 headed, 10 horned beast, to initiate his one final go at making things work on earth.

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

There is no way to test your predictions, which are really the predictions that others have made. Do you understand that? Probably not.
What you write is mere fortune telling and denies the Master (Jesus of Nazerath) who brought us out of spiritual slavery.
Daniel 7:11-14 foretells the coming of Jesus of Nazerath and his spiritual victory over Satan. This can be tested and confirmed. Yet folks like you refuse to test this.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The final beast is rome

it’s the same empire,

as daniel 9 says, the prince of the people who destroyed the city (rome) will be the final leader who will commit the abomination of desolation

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

The final beast is rome

it’s the same empire,

as daniel 9 says, the prince of the people who destroyed the city (rome) will be the final leader who will commit the abomination of desolation

No, the 4th beast is the Roman Republic which then morphs into the Roman Empire. It is an important detail.The antichrist being the little horn is then clearly the throne of the Roman emperor.

John 19:14-15
It was the day of Preparation of the Passover; it was about noon.
“Here is your king,” Pilate said to the Jews.
15 But they shouted, “Take him away! Take him away! Crucify him!”
“Shall I crucify your king?” Pilate asked.
“We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, the 4th beast is the Roman Republic which then morphs into the Roman Empire. It is an important detail.
The antichrist being the little horn is then clearly the throne of the Roman emperor.

The 4th beast was rome in the time of Christ, the iron legs of chapter 2 the final iteration being the feet of iron and clay who will rule during the tribulation

 

[Shilohsfoal]

In Daniel 7 there appears a fourth beast different from the three other beasts as it devours the whole earth.
With the understanding that the four separate beasts in Daniel 7 are the unified world order of nations in Revelation 13, which of the worlds nations would you then suspect is represented by the fourth beast who devours/consumes the whole earth?
Would it not be first world nations who currently are the major consumers of the earths resources, and go to war with other nations in order to secure the natural resources required to their game of monopoly going?

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

Makes me happy to know I don't live in that kingdom.
The kingdom I live in is not destroyed when that beast is.

https://biblehub.com/daniel/7-12.htm

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

The 4th beast was rome in the time of Christ, the iron legs of chapter 2 the final iteration being the feet of iron and clay who will rule during the tribulation

Both iterations (daniel 2 and daniel 7) represent the transition of Roman Republic to Roman Empire. Why don't you check history and see for yourself about the transition of Roman Republic to Roman Empire. History doesn't skip this, so why must you insist the bible skips this???

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Both iterations (daniel 2 and daniel 7) represent the transition of Roman Republic to Roman Empire. Why don't you check history and see for yourself about the transition of Roman Republic to Roman Empire. History doesn't skip this, so why must you insist the bible skips this???

The problem is the second part of rome has not happened yet, the things she is said to do have yet to occure

why don’t you look at that, instead of trying to force on her things that do not fit

 

[Nebuchadnezzer]

The problem is the second part of rome has not happened yet, the things she is said to do have yet to occure

why don’t you look at that, instead of trying to force on her things that do not fit

What things? Explain so then I can show you.

 

[Ahwatukee]

In Daniel 7 there appears a fourth beast different from the three other beasts as it devours the whole earth.
With the understanding that the four separate beasts in Daniel 7 are the unified world order of nations in Revelation 13, which of the worlds nations would you then suspect is represented by the fourth beast who devours/consumes the whole earth?
Would it not be first world nations who currently are the major consumers of the earths resources, and go to war with other nations in order to secure the natural resources required to their game of monopoly going?

Hello Luigi!

Scripture makes clear that the four beasts represent consecutive ruling kingdoms:

Lion = Babylon

Bear = Medo/Persia

Leopard = Greece

It had large iron teeth = Rome

The above are synonymous with the Nebuchadnezzar's statue in Daniel 2

Head of gold = Babylon

Chest and arms of silver = Medo/Persia

Belly and thighs of bronze = Greece

Legs of iron = Roman

Feet of partly baked clay and Iron = Extended or revised Roman Empire (future)

All of the above are the succession of kingdoms, with the the feet with ten toes made of iron and partly baked clay being the last future kingdom headed by the beast/antichrist. The reference to iron is pointing to Rome and the partly baked clay is other people mixed with the iron so that it won't have the same power that it did when it was when Rome was in its heyday when it was pure iron.

The ten toes are synonymous with the ten kings who will rule concurrently with the beast referred to in Revelation 17:12