Shining Light on 1 Corinthians Chapter 15
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To say God's truths as conveyed through individual's letters to certain groups of people do not apply to all is a huge mistake unless specifically specified in those letter's content.
This idea is faulty according to 2 Tim 3:16-17:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
This idea is faulty according to 2 Tim 3:16-17:
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works."
Yours and my understanding differs in what exactly constitutes one being born again. I believe the bible bears out that everyone must be born of water and of Spirit. (John 3:3-5) And this is clearly reflected in the commands of Peter, Paul, Philip, Ananias, etc. Each instructed individuals to submit to water baptism and to be indwelt with the Holy Ghost. One without the other does not complete the requirement God implemented Himself.
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Since I was born again and grew strong in the Lord and in the power of His Might, for almost a year before I was baptized in water, (I was in jail) I know that one is born again before they are are baptized in water. There is no argument against my experience. My experience also agrees with the scriptures and I would never tell someone they are not born again yet if they have not been baptized in water. If you do so you are being like a Pharisee hanging on a technicality and thinking you have the authority of scripture but you do not really understand the scriptures when you do it. It is sad because you make yourself to be like the Pharisees and attempt to cast doubt in someone's mind whether they are born again because they have not yet been baptized in water. This probably makes God very angry and I would repent of it if I were you and never do it again.
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1 Peter 3:19-21 explains this. It is speaking of the three days Christ spent making atonement for our sins, when he was dead in the flesh and made alive in the spirit.
1 Peter 3: 19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—
1 Peter 3: 19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—
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Here is something interesting from history. John Harper was a pastor on board the Titanic. He was coming to preach at Moody Church in Chicago. On April 12, 1912 the Titanic hit an iceberg and began to sink. Pastor Harper put his sister and her 6 year old daughter on a life boat and he gave his life vest to another passenger.
Then John began to preach the Gospel until his last dying breath. What do you think he preached? He preached Acts 16:31
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved,
I look forward to knowing the rest of the story in eternity. I dare not judge prematurely thinking I know more than I do.
Then John began to preach the Gospel until his last dying breath. What do you think he preached? He preached Acts 16:31
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved,
I look forward to knowing the rest of the story in eternity. I dare not judge prematurely thinking I know more than I do.
I would accept your comment that I was like the Pharisees if I was stating things that were not in the word. I am not. As I’ve pointed out Jesus Himself stated that everyone must be reborn of water and Spirit in order to enter the kingdom of God. And, He also said that whoever believes and is baptized shall be saved. Further He commanded those who had already been born again to teach all nations, baptize them, and teach them to observe all things He had commanded them. These are the facts.
Jesus pointed out that Pharisees, the religious leaders of His day, were distorting the scriptures for their own benefit; elevation of social status, financial gain, etc. Jesus told them that the harlots and publicans would enter heaven before they would because they refused to accept the very counsel of God. (Luke 7:29-30, Matt 21:31-32)
Many on this website accuse people who share these truths of being prideful and neglect to even consider that they are sharing God’s principles out of genuine concern for others. I personally am so very thankful that someone took the time to share with me what I now with others because it changed my life.
Had I received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues prior to being water baptized in the name of the Jesus Christ? Yes. As I have shared with others, even though I had received the Holy Ghost I was unaware that my spiritual eyes had yet to be opened. It was not until I stepped out in faith and obeyed the command concerning water baptism that I was re-baptized in Jesus’ name that I began to SEE (understand/comprehend) the kingdom of God as stated by Jesus words in John 3:3.
We are all on a journey. I for one respect those who share what they see in the word. If it seems to go against a belief of mine I don’t just discount it. I examine the presented scripture to see if I have missed something. In fact the word teaches us to do that. (2 Tim 2:15)
Jesus pointed out that Pharisees, the religious leaders of His day, were distorting the scriptures for their own benefit; elevation of social status, financial gain, etc. Jesus told them that the harlots and publicans would enter heaven before they would because they refused to accept the very counsel of God. (Luke 7:29-30, Matt 21:31-32)
Many on this website accuse people who share these truths of being prideful and neglect to even consider that they are sharing God’s principles out of genuine concern for others. I personally am so very thankful that someone took the time to share with me what I now with others because it changed my life.
Had I received the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues prior to being water baptized in the name of the Jesus Christ? Yes. As I have shared with others, even though I had received the Holy Ghost I was unaware that my spiritual eyes had yet to be opened. It was not until I stepped out in faith and obeyed the command concerning water baptism that I was re-baptized in Jesus’ name that I began to SEE (understand/comprehend) the kingdom of God as stated by Jesus words in John 3:3.
We are all on a journey. I for one respect those who share what they see in the word. If it seems to go against a belief of mine I don’t just discount it. I examine the presented scripture to see if I have missed something. In fact the word teaches us to do that. (2 Tim 2:15)
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The Greek word “antitupon,” as used in I Peter 3: 21, is “an adjective, used as a noun,” and denotes, in the NT, “a corresponding type,” being “said of baptism.” “The circumstances of the flood, the ark and its occupants, formed a type, and baptism forms “a corresponding type,” each setting forth the spiritual realities of the death, burial, and resurrection of believers in their identification with Christ. It is not a case of type and antitype, but of two types, that in Genesis, the type, and baptism, the corresponding type.” Noah was saved by the ark “through (via) water.” Water was not the means of their salvation, but the ark. (Hebrews 11:7) The ark is what both delivered and preserved them, the two aspects of “salvation.” Their “salvation” was typical of the salvation promised to the Christian. It pictured it. So also does Christian baptism picture the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. *By saying, "not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience - through the resurrection of Jesus Christ," Peter guards against saving power to the physical ceremony itself.
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The gospel is not the cause of a person's eternal deliverance, neither is baptism, or believing , or repenting, or confessing, or accepting, or any other action on the part of mankind. Eternal deliverance is by God's sovereign grace, without any action from mankind.
God choose his elect, Christ died for his elect, God loves all of his elect, and chastens them when they are disobedient.
The inspired words of God informs his elect how they were secured in their eternal inheritance, by Christ's sacrifice on the cross, and all of the rest of his inspired words are his instructions as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here in this world. That is the gospel in its fullness.
God choose his elect, Christ died for his elect, God loves all of his elect, and chastens them when they are disobedient.
The inspired words of God informs his elect how they were secured in their eternal inheritance, by Christ's sacrifice on the cross, and all of the rest of his inspired words are his instructions as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here in this world. That is the gospel in its fullness.
All of God's elect are born again in the same manner, from Adam to the last man that will be born into this world by their natural birth, and that is by God's sovereign grace, by putting his Holy Spirit within them, without any action on mankind's part.
Moses, in the old testament, was born again, by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, Isaiah 63:11.
The Holy Ghost, which is another function of the Holy Spirit, was not given until Christ was risen.
The Holy Spirit is a quickening Spirit, and the function of the Holy Ghost is as a comforter, and a revelator.
Moses, in the old testament, was born again, by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, Isaiah 63:11.
The Holy Ghost, which is another function of the Holy Spirit, was not given until Christ was risen.
The Holy Spirit is a quickening Spirit, and the function of the Holy Ghost is as a comforter, and a revelator.
Saved in Greek=delivered.
Belief is not the cause of a person being delivered eternally, but it is the cause of the regenerated person being delivered as he sojourns here in this world. When a new born babe in Christ comes unto a knowledge of the righteousness of God (the gospel) he is delivered, here in this world, from his lack of knowledge.
Belief is not the cause of a person being delivered eternally, but it is the cause of the regenerated person being delivered as he sojourns here in this world. When a new born babe in Christ comes unto a knowledge of the righteousness of God (the gospel) he is delivered, here in this world, from his lack of knowledge.