OH NO!! Not another Halloween debate!

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Blackpowderduelist

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My only opinion about this is; if anyone has strong feelings about this, they have to little to do and think about.
 

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No debate. Halloween is a celebration of all things evil and ungodly. Its of the devil, anyone who disagrees lacks ANY spiritual discernment. I'd reckon most people of the world would say its not for a Christian.
Most people of the world would not even mention the word Christian. Halloween is all about scoring candy by trick or treating. Little kids go walking around with their little orange pumpkins to hold the little Snicker's and Milky Way bars. Little bags of M & M's too. Nothing evil about that or losing sleep over.
 

soggykitten

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Most people of the world would not even mention the word Christian. Halloween is all about scoring candy by trick or treating. Little kids go walking around with their little orange pumpkins to hold the little Snicker's and Milky Way bars. Little bags of M & M's too. Nothing evil about that or losing sleep over.
Agreed.
It is so cute to watch the littlest children in their costumes. They're so very serious walking about as Superman, Wonder Woman, the mummy.
This year I bet there will be a months old baby dressed as baby Yoda.
That's the best part of the holiday for me. Seeing all the little ones dressed up. So very cute. :love::giggle:
 

soggykitten

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Our church had people set up shelter and coffee urns at the ends of their driveways. Parents would get to meet their neighbours and have a cup of coffee to keep warm as they walked with their kids. People really appreciated this. It was a great way to show love for our neighbours and leave a good impression. It wasn't about handing out tracts, rather it was about making a connection. As the warmer weather rolled around, people would stop and chat and friendships had a chance to form.
One of my favourite sayings is, "Don't worry about witnessing. Worry about what the world is already witnessing." Love on people.
Wonderful! :)
“Be careful how you live. You may be the only Bible some person ever reads." William J. Toms
 
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Sure those stats did just that. Now the onus is again on you to prove your contention about Halloween.
Your stats did nothing. In your part of the world what do you encounter more, Easter decor or Halloween decor? Where I live it’s 100-1 Halloween. I’d love to know that’s not the case in your neck of the woods.
 
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Kim82

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Im not understanding why Christians would take part in halloween. Im so happy that it hasn't caught on in my country.
 

soggykitten

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Your stats did nothing. In your part of the world what do you encounter more, Easter decor or Halloween decor? Where I live it’s 100-1 Halloween. I’d love to know that’s not the case in your neck of the woods.
The stats mean nothing because you want to insist Halloween is the be all to end all attention wise in America.
I guess they don't celebrate Christmas in "your neck of the woods".
The stats are impartial. Believe what you wish since you are not able to sustain your claim about Halloween with stats you've searched for so as to refute those I posted. Accusations don't prove the stats I posted are in error.
 
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EleventhHour

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Your stats did nothing. In your part of the world what do you encounter more, Easter decor or Halloween decor? Where I live it’s 100-1 Halloween. I’d love to know that’s not the case in your neck of the woods.
As well, those statistics are meaningless... comparison of apples and oranges.
 
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The stats mean nothing because you want to insist Halloween is the be all to end all attention wise in America.
I guess they don't celebrate Christmas in "your neck of the woods".
The stats are impartial. Believe what you wish since you are not able to sustain your claim about Halloween with stats you've searched for so as to refute those I posted. Accusations don't prove the stats I posted are in error.
Uh oh, someone’s angry. You went from Easter to Christmas in an attempt to skirt the issue. So much for being a good little kitty.
 

soggykitten

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Uh oh, someone’s angry. You went from Easter to Christmas in an attempt to skirt the issue. So much for being a good little kitty.
It is my pleasure to burst your bubble. This cat never takes anything online personally.

Introducing Christmas into this was to make a point. Thus far you've not provided any proofs for your claims.
If you're against Halloween ignore it.
Halloween is a marketing ploy just like Valentines Day. Not a thing to do with the occult or the enemy of God.

 

iamsoandso

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Im not understanding why Christians would take part in halloween. Im so happy that it hasn't caught on in my country.
I think to understand why you would need to see things from each nations point of view. I live in the US but my family never followed their pattern of holidays other than by force. Why I say by force is that even if you say to them that you don't celebrate one of their holidays they say "oh,okay" but you are forced to participate(schools,workplace ect.) anyway.

After looking at what is taking place my whole life from the point of view of an observer(trying to avoid their holidays) what I see that is taking place is that they became conditioned to this from childhood without noticing they have. The merchants advertise the different holidays to increase their sales and because it is good for the economy the government approves of it.

So at the beginning of the year to boost the economy you file to get a tax refund. Then after they spend that money comes the next holiday(valentines day) and so they sell candy/valentines) and so the teachers send home notes with the kids telling them what to bring to school. Then the cycle of month after month of holidays takes place until Christmas(end of year) and then it starts again in January. Even the stores have a "seasonal section" that is set up for each holiday/season and then reset for the next big party and they throw party after party for themselves in a cycle without realizing their doing it.
 

GraceAndTruth

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I think to understand why you would need to see things from each nations point of view. I live in the US but my family never followed their pattern of holidays other than by force. Why I say by force is that even if you say to them that you don't celebrate one of their holidays they say "oh,okay" but you are forced to participate(schools,workplace ect.) anyway.

After looking at what is taking place my whole life from the point of view of an observer(trying to avoid their holidays) what I see that is taking place is that they became conditioned to this from childhood without noticing they have. The merchants advertise the different holidays to increase their sales and because it is good for the economy the government approves of it.

So at the beginning of the year to boost the economy you file to get a tax refund. Then after they spend that money comes the next holiday(valentines day) and so they sell candy/valentines) and so the teachers send home notes with the kids telling them what to bring to school. Then the cycle of month after month of holidays takes place until Christmas(end of year) and then it starts again in January. Even the stores have a "seasonal section" that is set up for each holiday/season and then reset for the next big party and they throw party after party for themselves in a cycle without realizing their doing it.
Well, aren't you the Grinch!
No one is forced to buy, but economics make it imperative that merchants take advantage of every holiday.
Merchants provide jobs, both to maintain their business, in selling goods that people make so they have jobs too, along with the transporting of goods, advertising, jobs jobs jobs; and all these workers pay taxes that provide for State and Federal funding........its amazing how many tentacles just one part of our economy touches.

Every ethic group has holidays that aren't necessarily shared by others. Italians have Columbus day, Jews have Hannekah et all, Mexicans have Cinco de Mayo (which by the way celebrates the massacre of white people in Tucson by Pancho Villa)......I'm a 4th of July person.......give me an hour of spectacle and I'm a happy camper.

Buy American
 

iamsoandso

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Well, aren't you the Grinch!
No one is forced to buy, but economics make it imperative that merchants take advantage of every holiday.
Merchants provide jobs, both to maintain their business, in selling goods that people make so they have jobs too, along with the transporting of goods, advertising, jobs jobs jobs; and all these workers pay taxes that provide for State and Federal funding........its amazing how many tentacles just one part of our economy touches.

Every ethic group has holidays that aren't necessarily shared by others. Italians have Columbus day, Jews have Hannekah et all, Mexicans have Cinco de Mayo (which by the way celebrates the massacre of white people in Tucson by Pancho Villa)......I'm a 4th of July person.......give me an hour of spectacle and I'm a happy camper.

Buy American

Which confirms my entire point you see about "by force". That is there is the "Grinch that stole Christmas", and the "Scrooge" which are from children's stories and they are taught to the young as their preconditioning of the holidays. If anyone doesn't participate then they are punished. You chose to use "the Grinch" as mine but there are a lot of them like "trick or treat" meaning "give us a treat or we will do some sort of trick to you(usually bad/punishment)".
 
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My only opinion about this is; if anyone has strong feelings about this, they have to little to do and think about.
Normally I would agree with your sentiments however some believers have a deeper sense of reverence for certain aspects of God than other believers.