Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"
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If that is the motivation behind you efforts here that is an even deeper shame & sin. The lost don't realize that. While we who are in Christ are able to. And pray that you cease that pursuit.
My point was . We are to preach that Jesus has died for their sins and by faith they need to recieve Jesus. Believe from the heart . Anything else leads to false converts or confused believers.
Well, Soggy.........is your head spinning yet? You know you are on the Lordship salvation merry-go-round
I'm happy for you. Just don't cut the rest of the gospel out when speaking to those who are seeking to know the Lord.
As I said, that is the beginning.
What you're talking about is what leads to false converts and confused believers. Believing in Jesus and having faith is the beginning. When we are in Christ Jesus then leads us through his holy spirit to serve his purpose. Which you and tragically others disavow as you label it a works salvation. Which is nonsense and not biblically defensible. Just as those who disavow baptism are guilty of the same offense.
One has to twist the scriptures like a pretzel to make that point and yet that isn't actually the gospel so it is of no merit even for the wasted expenditure of effort.
It is the gospel of Jesus Christ through the grace and irrevocable gift of God. Not the pretzel doctrine.
like what . What extra is needed beyond Rom 10.9,10 ? Jesus is Kurios . Paul is deliberately quoting an old testament verse which said ' Jehovah ' and applies it to ' Jesus '
That's why reading it becomes sickening after awhile? Now I get it. Thanks.Well, Soggy.........is your head spinning yet? You know you are on the Lordship salvation merry-go-round
MacArthur as a pastor who preaches that falsehood will have to answer more for his false teachings than those who follow and hope to teach the same rubbish. James 3:1 says, “Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.”
I'm just flabbergasted that there is a doctrine much less its followers that disavows baptism. That there is an effort in that regard has to make the enemy of God very pleased.
Paul warns the Galations from moving away from the simplicity in Christ . By adding one work of the law .
Yes McArthur used to be calvinist. Now he is dispensationalist, premill and has been a leading proponet of this Lordship salvation.
I didn't know they do not baptize. I'm not all that familiar with LS doctrine.
And lastly. Not one work of the law. Not a thing to do with that. You don't get it and that's sad for you.
Or maybe you do and you're of a different mind all together. That is sadder still.
You disavow everything James, the brother of Jesus taught about salvation.
And whatever side you really are on in the end you'll answer for it. You and those who are like you.