Lordship salvation vs. "easy believism"

[GraceAndTruth]

That verse has absolutely nothing to do with blasphemy. No mention of that word even ?

Belief and the Holy Spirit go together like milk and chocolate cake.
Your posts are looking like you are a troll.....someone who just likes to argue over everything

 

[throughfaith]

Repentance does not come from the heart of the unregenerate man.......it comes by the conviction of sin by the Holy Spirit. People do not know what sin is from God's view, only what they know from the society the live in. A headhunter would not see head hunting as a sin because that is acceptable behavior in that society. Americans tend to think the only sins are to disobey the 10 commandments......though we know that Jesus said if we break ONE, we have broken them all. AND whatever sin THOUGHTS we have we are also guilty of. We were told this so we would understand our complete helplessness in obedience and must rely totally
on the propitiation of Christ for His church.

EASY BELIEVEISM are words that try to take away your peace with God and diminish the efficacy of the shed blood of Christ. John MacDonald was one of the leaders in this doctrine from hell..........I am so thankful that the Holy Spirit has shielded the minds of God's children to reject this apostary.

Could you explain what you think easy believism means ?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Your preaching ' Lordship salvation?

DING DING.....is anyone home? I just called Lordship Salvation an apostasy. How is that preaching it?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Could you explain what you think easy believism means ?

I would never use "easy believeism" to define my faith......my faith is by God's mercy on His child, freely given to me because Christ paid for it.

The term is abusive for God's grace.

 

[throughfaith]

Belief and the Holy Spirit go together like milk and chocolate cake.
Your posts are looking like you are a troll.....someone who just likes to argue over everything

Good grief I just posted the verses . There's no other way of interpreting that The Holy Spirit simple reproves the world of THE sin ( singular) of not Believing on Jesus . Crystal clear .

 

[throughfaith]

I would never use "easy believeism" to define my faith......my faith is by God's mercy on His child, freely given to me because Christ paid for it.

The term is abusive for God's grace.

ok I may have misunderstood. You are reformed no ? if so Lordship salvation is unavoidable.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Good grief I just posted the verses . There's no other way of interpreting that The Holy Spirit simple reproves the world of THE sin ( singular) of not Believing on Jesus . Crystal clear .

Good grief, did you not see my agreement?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

ok I may have misunderstood. You are reformed no ? if so Lordship salvation is unavoidable.

I don't like the term "reformed" .....bible truth of grace never needed reforming.
I like the term 'sovereign grace' believer. Old school calvinism. WE are NOT Lordship salvation at all

 

[throughfaith]

I would never use "easy believeism" to define my faith......my faith is by God's mercy on His child, freely given to me because Christ paid for it.

The term is abusive for God's grace.

Theres nothing hard . Jesus died for the sins of the world. Simply through faith a person recieves Jesus..John 1.12

 

[throughfaith]

I don't like the term "reformed" .....bible truth of grace never needed reforming.
I like the term 'sovereign grace' believer. Old school calvinism.

ok so a Calvinist. Then Lordship salvation is a natural conclusion. Isn't it Faith alone , BUT !! that faith is never alone . Subtle ( practical) Works salvation.

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Theres nothing hard . Jesus died for the sins of the world. Simply through faith a person recieves Jesus..John 1.12

You are proving your point by posting HALF a sentence? John 1:12 AND 13 make one complete sentence.

 

[throughfaith]

You are proving your point by posting HALF a sentence? John 1:12 AND 13 make one complete sentence.

Eph 1 .12 -13 explains the order of what happens in John 1.12 -13

 

[GraceAndTruth]

ok so a Calvinist. Then Lordship salvation is a natural conclusion. Isn't it Faith alone , BUT !! that faith is never alone . Subtle ( practical) Works salvation.

Lordship salvation is about synergism.....calvinism is about monergism

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Eph 1 .12 -13 explains the order of what happens in John 1.12 -13

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, (the Jews) and those who were His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him (Jews and Gentiles), to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.


who were born physically, (blood) not by their own will (flesh), nor of anyone's will , but by God's own purpose and will.

Anyone's will is harder to explain, but one of the ways a Jew was a Jew was by education, or place in their society instead of being a Jew spiritually.

 

[throughfaith]

Lordship salvation is about synergism.....calvinism is about monergism

You know Monergism is a made up word . But that being said. Calvinism and Lordship salvation cannot be separated. Because of the P .

 

[GraceAndTruth]

In Ephe

You know Monergism is a made up word . But that being said. Calvinism and Lordship salvation cannot be separated. Because of the P .

monergism is not a made up word..........LOL
THE P in tulip is Preservation of the saints....meaning once saved always saved....God preserves His people in faith

 

[throughfaith]

10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, (the Jews) and those who were His own did not receive Him.
12 But as many as received Him (Jews and Gentiles), to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,
13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.


who were born physically, (blood) not by their own will (flesh), nor of anyone's will , but by God's own purpose and will.

Anyone's will is harder to explain, but one of the ways a Jew was a Jew was by education, or place in their society instead of being a Jew spiritually.

Eph 1
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
You cannot fit Calvinisms idea of salvation with the above .

 

[GraceAndTruth]

monergism is God alone is the author of my salvation
synergism is God offering and man accepting

 

[throughfaith]

In Ephe


monergism is not a made up word..........LOL
THE P in tulip is Preservation of the saints....meaning once saved always saved....God preserves His people in faith

Monergism/Synergism is a false dichotomy invented in the 1890s. Do you have to endure to the end to be saved?

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Eph 1
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
You cannot fit Calvinisms idea of salvation with the above .

maybe you should start with verses 1 thru 11