Jerusalem Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great, The Seven Hilled City

[Truth7t7]

(Jerusalem) is the whore, mystery Babylon the great.

(Jerusalem) is the seven hilled city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

Revelation 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

 

[Corban]

(Jerusalem) is the whore, mystery Babylon the great.

(Jerusalem) is the seven hilled city, where the woman sits, not Rome as many falsely claim.

Revelation 17:9KJV
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

List of cities claimed to be built on seven hills - Wikipedia
Jerusalem, Israel: Jerusalem's seven hills are Mount Scopus, Mount Olivet and the Mount of Corruption (all three are peaks in a mountain ridge that lies east of the Old City), Mount Ophel, the original Mount Zion, the New Mount Zion and the hill on which the Antonia Fortress was built.

The Roman Empire didnt exist to be guilty of the Prophets blood seen below, Jerusalem did.

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:29-37KJV
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

This is one half proof. Matthew 23 speaks of the "prophets". In Revelation 18:24 THREE bloods are found, (i) the prophets, (ii) the saints, and (iii) all that were slain on the earth. Added to this, Chapter 18 is about a commercial Babylon that is destroyed by God. Revelation 17 is about a religious Babylon that is destroyed by men.

The Great Whore has the following description

• She sits on "many waters". This depicts the Gentiles (v.15). Israel is not carried by the Nations
• She fornicated with the kings of the earth. Israel was subjected to the kings of the earth
• She has the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. Rome killed much more Christians than Jerusalem, so did Mao
• She is carried by the Beast - a Gentile king
• The Beast comes out the "sea" - Gentile (Israel is "the sand of the sea-shore")
• The Beast is a resurrected man. No resurrected man ruled Jerusalem
• The Beast gets power from the kings of the earth. Jerusalem is subjugated by the kings of the earth
• John says a certain line of kings rule. Rome had the kings of John's day
• The Whore is a City which reigned over the kings of the earth. Rome did. Jerusalem was subjugated by Rome and then destroyed
• In Revelation 13:7 the Beast reigned over all peoples. Jerusalem never did
• The Beast's name is a number - six hundred and sixty six. The only name of a known king, which when turned into a number, in both Hebrew and Greek's gematria, is "CEASAR NERO" - who is also one of the five kings of Rome who died before John wrote Revelation
• In Daniel, it is the fourth world Empire that is crushed by the Lord at His return. Rome is the fourth after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon
• Rome has ruled continuously since they came to power. It is just that they change armor for priests clothes in about 313 AD. They went from being, "The Roman Empire" to, "The Holy Roman Empire"
• Jerusalem never reign over kings, nations or the whole world.

I think that the evidence is that the Great Whore is Rome. She is called "Babylon" not because of geography, but because all six world powers, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome all followed the pagan religion developed by Nimrod of Babylon. Men rate military power as the dictating power on earth. The Bible rightly regards religion as stronger. What a man BELIEVES is stronger than what he is ORDERED to do. Jerusalem was, and will never be a world power until our Lord Jesus reigns from there in the Millennium. She has been destroyed a number of times and was desolate for centuries.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is one half proof. Matthew 23 speaks of the "prophets". In Revelation 18:24 THREE bloods are found, (i) the prophets, (ii) the saints, and (iii) all that were slain on the earth. Added to this, Chapter 18 is about a commercial Babylon that is destroyed by God. Revelation 17 is about a religious Babylon that is destroyed by men.

The Great Whore has the following description

• She sits on "many waters". This depicts the Gentiles (v.15). Israel is not carried by the Nations
• She fornicated with the kings of the earth. Israel was subjected to the kings of the earth
• She has the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. Rome killed much more Christians than Jerusalem, so did Mao
• She is carried by the Beast - a Gentile king
• The Beast comes out the "sea" - Gentile (Israel is "the sand of the sea-shore")
• The Beast is a resurrected man. No resurrected man ruled Jerusalem
• The Beast gets power from the kings of the earth. Jerusalem is subjugated by the kings of the earth
• John says a certain line of kings rule. Rome had the kings of John's day
• The Whore is a City which reigned over the kings of the earth. Rome did. Jerusalem was subjugated by Rome and then destroyed
• In Revelation 13:7 the Beast reigned over all peoples. Jerusalem never did
• The Beast's name is a number - six hundred and sixty six. The only name of a known king, which when turned into a number, in both Hebrew and Greek's gematria, is "CEASAR NERO" - who is also one of the five kings of Rome who died before John wrote Revelation
• In Daniel, it is the fourth world Empire that is crushed by the Lord at His return. Rome is the fourth after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon
• Rome has ruled continuously since they came to power. It is just that they change armor for priests clothes in about 313 AD. They went from being, "The Roman Empire" to, "The Holy Roman Empire"
• Jerusalem never reign over kings, nations or the whole world.

I think that the evidence is that the Great Whore is Rome. She is called "Babylon" not because of geography, but because all six world powers, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome all followed the pagan religion developed by Nimrod of Babylon. Men rate military power as the dictating power on earth. The Bible rightly regards religion as stronger. What a man BELIEVES is stronger than what he is ORDERED to do. Jerusalem was, and will never be a world power until our Lord Jesus reigns from there in the Millennium. She has been destroyed a number of times and was desolate for centuries.

Jesus Christ In His Own Words States (Jerusalem) Is Guilty Of (All The Righteous Blood Shed Upon The Earth)

The Words Of Jesus Christ In Matt 24:35 Below, Completely And Soundly Fulfills Revelation 18:24 Below.

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:31-37KJV
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Not.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is one half proof. Matthew 23 speaks of the "prophets". In Revelation 18:24 THREE bloods are found, (i) the prophets, (ii) the saints, and (iii) all that were slain on the earth. Added to this, Chapter 18 is about a commercial Babylon that is destroyed by God. Revelation 17 is about a religious Babylon that is destroyed by men.

The Great Whore has the following description

• She sits on "many waters". This depicts the Gentiles (v.15). Israel is not carried by the Nations
• She fornicated with the kings of the earth. Israel was subjected to the kings of the earth
• She has the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. Rome killed much more Christians than Jerusalem, so did Mao
• She is carried by the Beast - a Gentile king
• The Beast comes out the "sea" - Gentile (Israel is "the sand of the sea-shore")
• The Beast is a resurrected man. No resurrected man ruled Jerusalem
• The Beast gets power from the kings of the earth. Jerusalem is subjugated by the kings of the earth
• John says a certain line of kings rule. Rome had the kings of John's day
• The Whore is a City which reigned over the kings of the earth. Rome did. Jerusalem was subjugated by Rome and then destroyed
• In Revelation 13:7 the Beast reigned over all peoples. Jerusalem never did
• The Beast's name is a number - six hundred and sixty six. The only name of a known king, which when turned into a number, in both Hebrew and Greek's gematria, is "CEASAR NERO" - who is also one of the five kings of Rome who died before John wrote Revelation
• In Daniel, it is the fourth world Empire that is crushed by the Lord at His return. Rome is the fourth after Nebuchadnezzar's Babylon
• Rome has ruled continuously since they came to power. It is just that they change armor for priests clothes in about 313 AD. They went from being, "The Roman Empire" to, "The Holy Roman Empire"
• Jerusalem never reign over kings, nations or the whole world.

I think that the evidence is that the Great Whore is Rome. She is called "Babylon" not because of geography, but because all six world powers, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome all followed the pagan religion developed by Nimrod of Babylon. Men rate military power as the dictating power on earth. The Bible rightly regards religion as stronger. What a man BELIEVES is stronger than what he is ORDERED to do. Jerusalem was, and will never be a world power until our Lord Jesus reigns from there in the Millennium. She has been destroyed a number of times and was desolate for centuries.

Jerusalem Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

Isaiah 57:3KJV
3 But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress, the seed of the adulterer and the whore.

The Dressing Of The Levitical Preisthood Is Clothing The Woman Of Purple, Scarlet, Gold, Precious Stones Delivered To Moses/Aaron

Revelation 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Exodus 39:1-2 & 8-13KJV
1 And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the Lord commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

8 And he made the breastplate of cunning work, like the work of the ephod; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
9 It was foursquare; they made the breastplate double: a span was the length thereof, and a span the breadth thereof, being doubled.
10 And they set in it four rows of stones: the first row was a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this was the first row.
11 And the second row, an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
12 And the third row, a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
13 And the fourth row, a beryl, an onyx, and a jasper: they were inclosed in ouches of gold in their inclosings.

Another fact that Jerusalem is mystery Babylon its clearly identified as (The Great City)

Jerusalem Is (The Great City) Where Jesus Christ Was Crucified.

Revelation 11:-8KJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 14:8KJV
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Revelation 17:18KJV
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Jerusalem has filled the cup of Wrath, not Rome!

Matthew 23:32KJV
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers

Revelation 18:5-6KJV
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

The armies of the world are gathered to Armageddon/Jerusalem not Rome, Jerusalem Is The Great City, that will be divided into 3 parts, not Rome!

Revelation 16:12-19KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

 

[Corban]

Jesus Christ In His Own Words States (Jerusalem) Is Guilty Of (All The Righteous Blood Shed Upon The Earth)

The Words Of Jesus Christ In Matt 24:35 Below, Completely And Soundly Fulfills Revelation 18:24 Below.

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth

Revelation 18:24KJV
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Matthew 23:31-37KJV
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

That is why I admitted you had some proof. But what do you think of all my proofs? Also, what do you think of the Pharisees being held responsible for blood before Israel existed? Why should they be guilty of Abel's blood? The context will answer, but that same answer will hamper your one single proof. Read the text in Matthew again slowly. You only have verse 37 as proof. Verses 31-36 concern MEN. Jerusalem is only guilty of the prophets "which were sent unto them".

 

[Truth7t7]

That is why I admitted you had some proof. But what do you think of all my proofs? Also, what do you think of the Pharisees being held responsible for blood before Israel existed? Why should they be guilty of Abel's blood? The context will answer, but that same answer will hamper your one single proof. Read the text in Matthew again slowly. You only have verse 37 as proof. Verses 31-36 concern MEN. Jerusalem is only guilty of the prophets "which were sent unto them".

Corban, the (Truth) In Love

(Bias)

When I read Matthew 23:24 below I think of posters such as yourself

You have a (Pre-Determined) bias in maintaining the false teaching of a Millennium on this earth, where Jews are going to rule in this make believe Kingdom?

You have been given solid proof, you look for that little (Gnat) in Scripture to create a diversion from the (Camel) of simple, solid, evidence before your face, and you allude away from this (Camel) to your (Gnat)

Matthew 23:24KJV
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

 

[Corban]

Jerusalem Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great.

Isaiah 57:3KJV
3 But draw near hither, ye sons of the sorceress, the seed of the adulterer and the whore.

The Dressing Of The Levitical Preisthood Is Clothing The Woman Of Purple, Scarlet, Gold, Precious Stones Delivered To Moses/Aaron

Revelation 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Exodus 39:1-2 & 8-13KJV
1 And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the Lord commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

8 And he made the breastplate of cunning work, like the work of the ephod; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
9 It was foursquare; they made the breastplate double: a span was the length thereof, and a span the breadth thereof, being doubled.
10 And they set in it four rows of stones: the first row was a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this was the first row.
11 And the second row, an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
12 And the third row, a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
13 And the fourth row, a beryl, an onyx, and a jasper: they were inclosed in ouches of gold in their inclosings.

Another fact that Jerusalem is mystery Babylon its clearly identified as (The Great City)

Jerusalem Is (The Great City) Where Jesus Christ Was Crucified.

Revelation 11:-8KJV
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

Revelation 14:8KJV
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Revelation 17:18KJV
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Jerusalem has filled the cup of Wrath, not Rome!

Matthew 23:32KJV
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers

Revelation 18:5-6KJV
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

The armies of the world are gathered to Armageddon/Jerusalem not Rome, Jerusalem Is The Great City, that will be divided into 3 parts, not Rome!

Revelation 16:12-19KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

OK. You'll admit that BOTH Cities are called "Great". The difference is that Jerusalem is NOT called Babylon, but "Sodom" and "Egypt". And,

1. Jerusalem has NEVER reigned over the kings of the earth
2. Jerusalem does not fall at the end of the age. It is saved by Jesus
3. Jerusalem is not devastated and/or destroyed at the end of the age. It is saved
4. Jerusalem felt the wrath of God in 70 AD
5. Jerusalem does not have an army in Revelation - Babylon does.
6. Jerusalem suffers splitting and earthquakes for entertaining the Beast, but is not destroyed

And you still have to answer my proofs.

 

[Corban]

Corban, the (Truth) In Love

(Bias)

When I read Matthew 23:24 below I think of posters such as yourself

You have a (Pre-Determined) bias in maintaining the false teaching of a Millennium on this earth, where Jews are going to rule in this make believe Kingdom?

You have been given solid proof, you look for that little (Gnat) in Scripture to create a diversion from the (Camel) of simple,solid,evidence before your face.

Matthew 23:24KJV
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

I have read your sentiments and noted them. Go well brother.

 

[Truth7t7]

OK. You'll admit that BOTH Cities are called "Great". The difference is that Jerusalem is NOT called Babylon, but "Sodom" and "Egypt". And,

1. Jerusalem has NEVER reigned over the kings of the earth
2. Jerusalem does not fall at the end of the age. It is saved by Jesus
3. Jerusalem is not devastated and/or destroyed at the end of the age. It is saved
4. Jerusalem felt the wrath of God in 70 AD
5. Jerusalem does not have an army in Revelation - Babylon does.
6. Jerusalem suffers splitting and earthquakes for entertaining the Beast, but is not destroyed

And you still have to answer my proofs.

Once again, you disregard 1/2 of my post,in pre-determined bias.

You were presented that the Levitical Priesthood wore purple, scarlet, gold, jewels, exactlythe clothing of the woman/whore, why do you disregard this presented truth?

Because you have a predetermined bias, exclude looking at the camel, focus on the gnat.

The Dressing Of The Levitical Preisthood Is Clothing The Woman Of Purple, Scarlet, Gold, Precious Stones Delivered To Moses/Aaron

Revelation 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Exodus 39:1-2 & 8-13KJV
1 And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the Lord commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

8 And he made the breastplate of cunning work, like the work of the ephod; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
9 It was foursquare; they made the breastplate double: a span was the length thereof, and a span the breadth thereof, being doubled.
10 And they set in it four rows of stones: the first row was a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this was the first row.
11 And the second row, an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
12 And the third row, a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
13 And the fourth row, a beryl, an onyx, and a jasper: they were inclosed in ouches of gold in their inclosings.

 

[Truth7t7]

OK. You'll admit that BOTH Cities are called "Great". The difference is that Jerusalem is NOT called Babylon, but "Sodom" and "Egypt". And,

1. Jerusalem has NEVER reigned over the kings of the earth
2. Jerusalem does not fall at the end of the age. It is saved by Jesus
3. Jerusalem is not devastated and/or destroyed at the end of the age. It is saved
4. Jerusalem felt the wrath of God in 70 AD
5. Jerusalem does not have an army in Revelation - Babylon does.
6. Jerusalem suffers splitting and earthquakes for entertaining the Beast, but is not destroyed

And you still have to answer my proofs.

Once again, you disregard my post in the fact that Jerusalem has filled the cup, not Rome.

Why do you focus on the gnat,and not look at the camel, predetermined bias

Jerusalem has filled the cup of Wrath, not Rome!

Matthew 23:32KJV
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers

Revelation 18:5-6KJV
5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.
6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

 

[Corban]

Once again, you disregard 1/2 of my post,in pre-determined bias.

You were presented that the Levitical Priesthood wore purple, scarlet, gold, jewels, exactlythe clothing of the woman/whore, why do you disregard this presented truth?

Because you have a predetermined bias, exclude looking at the camel, focus on the gnat.

The Dressing Of The Levitical Preisthood Is Clothing The Woman Of Purple, Scarlet, Gold, Precious Stones Delivered To Moses/Aaron

Revelation 17:4KJV
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

Exodus 39:1-2 & 8-13KJV
1 And of the blue, and purple, and scarlet, they made cloths of service, to do service in the holy place, and made the holy garments for Aaron; as the Lord commanded Moses.
2 And he made the ephod of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.

8 And he made the breastplate of cunning work, like the work of the ephod; of gold, blue, and purple, and scarlet, and fine twined linen.
9 It was foursquare; they made the breastplate double: a span was the length thereof, and a span the breadth thereof, being doubled.
10 And they set in it four rows of stones: the first row was a sardius, a topaz, and a carbuncle: this was the first row.
11 And the second row, an emerald, a sapphire, and a diamond.
12 And the third row, a ligure, an agate, and an amethyst.
13 And the fourth row, a beryl, an onyx, and a jasper: they were inclosed in ouches of gold in their inclosings.

I think that your posting # 7 was kinda final. Forgive me if a I pass on this one.

 

[Truth7t7]

OK. You'll admit that BOTH Cities are called "Great". The difference is that Jerusalem is NOT called Babylon, but "Sodom" and "Egypt". And,

1. Jerusalem has NEVER reigned over the kings of the earth
2. Jerusalem does not fall at the end of the age. It is saved by Jesus
3. Jerusalem is not devastated and/or destroyed at the end of the age. It is saved
4. Jerusalem felt the wrath of God in 70 AD
5. Jerusalem does not have an army in Revelation - Babylon does.
6. Jerusalem suffers splitting and earthquakes for entertaining the Beast, but is not destroyed

And you still have to answer my proofs.

Once again, you disregard my post in the fact that the armies of the world are moving to Armageddon/Jerusalem the (Great City)

Why do you focus on the gnat,and not look at the camel, predetermined bias

The armies of the world are gathered to Armageddon/Jerusalem not Rome, Jerusalem Is The Great City, that will be divided into 3 parts, not Rome!

Revelation 16:12-19KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

 

[Truth7t7]

I think that your posting # 7 was kinda final. Forgive me if a I pass on this one.

I'm glad to see you acknowledge the (Camel) in presented truth, in the Levitical priesthood clothing matching the woman/whore of Rev 17:4

Also the cup that Jerusalem has filled in Matthew 23:32 & is the same cup seen in Rev 18:5-6

Also the armies of the world are moving to Armageddon/Jerusalem the great city, not Rome as many Falsely teach, Rev 16:12-19

 

[Corban]

Once again, you disregard my post in the fact that the armies of the world are moving to Armageddon/Jerusalem the (Great City)

Why do you focus on the gnat,and not look at the camel, predetermined bias

The armies of the world are gathered to Armageddon/Jerusalem not Rome, Jerusalem Is The Great City, that will be divided into 3 parts, not Rome!

Revelation 16:12-19KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

I think you said this already. May I refer you to my arguments. If you can show them to be untrue, I will continue the debate. You see, in a debate on the Bible you MUST reconcile scriptures. If you pit one scripture against another you are just showing the world that the Bible is untrue. Now, deal with my arguments as I have done with yours. That is the nature of debate!

 

[Corban]

I'm glad to see you acknowledge the (Camel) in presented truth,in the Levitical priesthood clothing matching the woman/whore of Rev 17:4

Also the cup that Jerusalem has filled in Matthew 23:32 & is the same cup seen in Rev 18:5-6

Also the armies of the world are moving to Armageddon/Jerusalem the great city, not Rome as many Falsely teach

If you want to see purple brother, you should visit the Vatican once. Your argument could be true, but there is another option. I would not use your argument because you make a metaphorical woman wear real clothes. That is not the way to deal with scripture. Either the whole is metaphorical, or the whole is literal. Next, you'll be saying that the nails in Jesus on the cross represent something. But Jesus was real. Get the point?

And if you think I acknowledge your point just because you accused me of something, you diminish your credibility. Every reader can see that you have consistently avoided my multiple arguments. Let's leave it brother. We've both stated our cases and we can walk away and let the other interested readers judge.

 

[Benadam]

The religious leaders of Jerusalem chose idolatry over God. They had to lie to Pontius pilot to kill Him. That is the who're riding the beast. Center the meaning on Jesus.
All the blood ever shed on earth points to Cain and Eve. Queen on her throne.
Cain was raised by a mother who considered herself as the generator of Man. Head of the family. She is the mother of harlots. Idolatry continues in the line of Cain. Wherever the culture of idolatry reigns is Babylon. Then in Noah's son Ham.

 

[EleventhHour]

If you want to see purple brother, you should visit the Vatican once. Your argument could be true, but there is another option. I would not use your argument because you make a metaphorical woman wear real clothes. That is not the way to deal with scripture. Either the whole is metaphorical, or the whole is literal. Next, you'll be saying that the nails in Jesus on the cross represent something. But Jesus was real. Get the point?

And if you think I acknowledge your point just because you accused me of something, you diminish your credibility. Every reader can see that you have consistently avoided my multiple arguments. Let's leave it brother. We've both stated our cases and we can walk away and let the other interested readers judge.

Dividing along metaphor and literal gets into the literary devices employed by the author and how words work.... a better system is divide between Abstract (ideas) and Concrete Reality when it comes to reading the text.

The Four Beasts in Daniel being an example, rich in ideas and metaphor through the use of words to express those ideas with a concrete reality of four also present.

 

[49]

The religious leaders of Jerusalem chose idolatry over God. They had to lie to Pontius pilot to kill Him. That is the who're riding the beast. Center the meaning on Jesus.
All the blood ever shed on earth points to Cain and Eve. Queen on her throne.
Cain was raised by a mother who considered herself as the generator of Man. Head of the family. She is the mother of harlots. Idolatry continues in the line of Cain. Wherever the culture of idolatry reigns is Babylon. Then in Noah's son Ham.

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[Benadam]

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What are you questioning? Rome turned on Jerusalem as the beast does the Harlot in Rev. The Harlot is a bride or married. Feel free to ask.