Yes when we believe. Then we are ' in him ' before that we are strangers, lost and without hope and without God . Scary ,really. Praise God we did not refuse the truth so as to be saved .When are we saved? When we believe.
Romans 10.
Yes when we believe. Then we are ' in him ' before that we are strangers, lost and without hope and without God . Scary ,really. Praise God we did not refuse the truth so as to be saved .When are we saved? When we believe.
Romans 10.
Amen if gives us power to keepIt gives me great comfort and security to know that God knows the end from the beginning, and that fully knowing us, from beginning to end and back, He loved us and chose us in Christ before we even existed.
Our will is free within the will of GodMan’s will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.
Which verse ? Thats where we would need to search to answer .
Yes we know from the scriptures he declares the end from the beginning. Prophecy ect ..And He will do all that pleases himIsaiah 46:9-10 to start
Yes we know from the scriptures he declares the end from the beginning. Prophecy ect ..And He will do all that pleases him
Which verse ? Thats where we would need to search to answer .
Thats a bible study we are now having.I do admire and agree with your “show me in the Bible” stance. That is a good attribute. Hold on to that one and never let it go.
Genuine question. How did you get involved with this group / organisation you are teaching?
Could you tell me how you were saved ?I am an individual, not from a group / organisation. God started about 9 years ago, when I would randomly open God's word, he would give me the scriptures I have quoted. The first I can remember, that struck me, due to my locality as a South African, was:
Zephaniah 3 (NASB)
10 My scattered people who live beyond the rivers of Ethiopia will come to present their offerings.
2 Timothy 2:10 (NKJV), “Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.”Who were/are “the elect” for whom Paul was willing to suffer with much hardship?
Notice it says ' they also ' .
Wow !! you are mixed up . So now we're back to Calvinsm. God is glorified by sending people to hell ?
Man’s will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.
So it was his work, the abuse of Children , Sex trafficking, rapes , murdering, the holocaust, ect ? Really ?
Could you tell me how you were saved ?
Enoch ect seemed to believe God.Man is enslaved to sin. His freedom to believe is granted by the God who redeems slaves.
So if I wasn't saved ,what would I have to do to be saved ?By grace. I have been a repenting Christian all my life, and had faith in all that my parents and teachers told me of God. At times in my life, my works deviated from what would be considered prepared by God. Repentance is a continual thing. But I had an experience like the prodigal son. I strayed from the faith, and came home again, when I had a big realisation that I am a big sinner, but that God had loved me all this time I was away from home, and he forgave me, even though some people close to me still judged me.
Enoch ect seemed to believe God.
5¶By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.Because God was gracious to him. Enoch would agree that he is who He is by the Grace of God.
5¶By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
6But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.