Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese Virologist Whistleblower, says she has evidence coronavirus is a man-made virus created in a lab by the Chinese government

[Scribe]

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese Virologist Whistleblower, says she has evidence coronavirus is a man-made virus created in a lab by the Chinese government.

However when they asked her about all the scientists in the world that have the gnome and have been studying it from the beginning have said it is from nature and not man made she said because they are all hiding it. That I cannot believe. She should present her evidence.

What do you think?

 

[Dino246]

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese Virologist Whistleblower, says she has evidence coronavirus is a man-made virus created in a lab by the Chinese government.

However when they asked her about all the scientists in the world that have the gnome and have been studying it from the beginning have said it is from nature and not man made she said because they are all hiding it. That I cannot believe. She should present her evidence.

What do you think?

I think either you mis-spelled "genome," or the little people are hiding the truth.

Seriously, a whistleblower without evidence is merely a starter of rumours.

 

[Scribe]

I think either you mis-spelled "genome," or the little people are hiding the truth.

Seriously, a whistleblower without evidence is merely a starter of rumours.

lol those little people are sneaky!

I agree, she says she has evidence and talks about it like it is science and so she should be able to convince her peers easy enough. Why haven't they already seen it, and what is she waiting on? Does she really think every single scientist outside of (communist china) involved in analyzing this virus genome is going to be involved in a cover-up? That is what it sounded like she said. If so, I would doubt her sanity and everything she says.

 

[Dino246]

lol those little people are sneaky!

I agree, she says she has evidence and talks about it like it is science and so she should be able to convince her peers easy enough. Why haven't they already seen it, and what is she waiting on? Does she really think every single scientist outside of (communist china) involved in analyzing this virus genome is going to be involved in a cover-up? That is what it sounded like she said. If so, I would doubt her sanity and everything she says.

As with most "conspiracy theories", the truth may never be known this side of eternity. On that side, we probably won't care. One thing of which I am certain though: there will be judgement.

 

[laughingheart]

I think either you mis-spelled "genome," or the little people are hiding the truth.

Seriously, a whistleblower without evidence is merely a starter of rumours.

 

[Fundamental]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-SCAR_(Scarless_Cas9_Assisted_Recombineering)_Genome_Editing

With the cas9 protein they can choose to alter sequences and more. I highly doubt anyone can prove this in a virus mutating naturally at a rapid speed.

 

[Nehemiah6]

However when they asked her about all the scientists in the world that have the gnome and have been studying it from the beginning have said it is from nature and not man made she said because they are all hiding it. That I cannot believe. She should present her evidence.

Why can't you believe that there is a genuine conspiracy behind the Wuhan virus? Are you not aware that China has been waging economic, political, military, and cyber warfare against the West (as well as its neighbors in Asia) for decades? Right now things have become very hot at the China-India border.

Therefore is it so hard to believe that Chinese military intelligence was working on at least one (if not many) bio-weapons? Or are you simply being wilfully naive about the whole issue? In that case no amount of *evidence* will convince you (or others like yourself).

One can excuse unbelievers when they believe the lies and propaganda from the Left and the Communists. But Christian have no excuse, since the godless Communist Chinese have been waging war against Chinese Christians for decades.

China had economically dominated the West (and other countries) for decades, and North America had shipped all its industries, plants, and jobs to China. The majority of consumer goods and pharmaceuticals had been coming from China, while industries and communities were destroyed in America. However, when Donald Trump took the presidency, he vowed to eliminate the trade imbalance, and he almost succeeded. Consequently China released the Wuhan virus in retaliation (and it does not matter whether it was accidental or not). Naturally, the Chinese should be expected to deny everything and then turn around and blame the US for this debacle!

The fact is that the CCP shut down all flights from Wuhan to Beijing, and at the same time kept all other flights from Wuhan to points West in place, and in fact also sent out Chinese citizens at that time. The end game was to mess up the economy of the USA in a critical election year, so that Trump could be ousted (no matter who replaced him from the Democratic party). And now we know for a fact that China is working night and day to stop Trump from being reelected, while supporting Biden wholeheartedly, since he is already in their pockets. And let's not forget that WHO and China were colluding to deceive the world about the Wuhan virus, and continue to do so.

 

[soggykitten]

Dr. Li-Meng Yan, Chinese Virologist Whistleblower, says she has evidence coronavirus is a man-made virus created in a lab by the Chinese government.

However when they asked her about all the scientists in the world that have the gnome and have been studying it from the beginning have said it is from nature and not man made she said because they are all hiding it. That I cannot believe. She should present her evidence.

What do you think?

If true, God protect her. There are people who think Demons are the stuff of myth and fable. I believe Demons are spirits just like Satan. And I believe they exist when I read of serial killers, and people who work in a lab to make killer virus'. From what as said of the HIV/AIDS virus to this Covid 19 today.

And while people who don't believe in Demons may chuckle at that, I also recall the warning God gave me and all of us. Satan roams about this earth like a hungry lion seeking souls to devour.
The Demons are his little helpers.

 

[Scribe]

If true, God protect her. There are people who think Demons are the stuff of myth and fable. I believe Demons are spirits just like Satan. And I believe they exist when I read of serial killers, and people who work in a lab to make killer virus'. From what as said of the HIV/AIDS virus to this Covid 19 today.

And while people who don't believe in Demons may chuckle at that, I also recall the warning God gave me and all of us. Satan roams about this earth like a hungry lion seeking souls to devour.
The Demons are his little helpers.

If true then she can present her data and other virologists with her same level of expertise can confirm or deny the data.

People are being motivated by demons when they go out drinking tonight and hope to do things they ought not to do. But putting aside the fact that demons motivate people to do evil things, ...

what makes me skeptical of her claims is that no other virologists out there are saying it is engineered by man. She cannot possibly be the only one that knows how to tell the difference between a naturally occurring virus and one engineered in a lab.

It is not possible for all virologists in the world to be working together in a secret diabolical plan except for her. If she thinks that then she is mentally disturbed regardless of her past achievements. People do go crazy after years of normalcy. We all believe that China is out to get her but not some virologist in the University of Tulane or Idaho, or Canada, etc. Come on!!!

 

[soggykitten]

I'll just say this. I've known people who knew things that they were sworn, even by contract, to keep secret. I've known people who to their credit arrived at the decision their conscience could not let them remain silent, while the world or parts of it sought answers and postulated sometimes unfathomable ideas of what truth was just to satisfy that need to know something. And some never realized how close their guess was to the real truth.

And I've known those people for whom the conscience spoke louder than the threat of breach of contract, lawsuits, jail, or worse, and did speak up and out. And people gathered and listened and were amazed. Some not so much because their notions of what was true were very close to what turned out to be when the whistle blew and the truth entered the light.

And then they died.
Maybe we should give the dead their respect in looking at the new whistle blower(s) who arrive to our attention from somewhere in the world to realize what they're risking for bravely stepping from the darkness of silence under threat and into the light for full disclosure.
And if we criticize there is only one maybe rather than think that means there are no others and the one is possibly out of their mind, we might just wish to consider all those numbered dead who came before. And maybe think that while there could be more who know that truth they wish not to be numbered too.

And so, there is just the one who in this case, and I'm not saying she is absolutely right, I'm saying she is absolutely bold and brave to do this, maybe arrived at the conscious conclusion that she'll risk being the next among the numbered dead among past whistle blowers because she can't live with the numbers of dead who succumb to this virus if she remains silent in the dark.

Just a thought.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I'll just say this. I've known people who knew things that they were sworn, even by contract, to keep secret. I've known people who to their credit arrived at the decision their conscience could not let them remain silent, while the world or parts of it sought answers and postulated sometimes unfathomable ideas of what truth was just to satisfy that need to know something. And some never realized how close their guess was to the real truth.

And I've known those people for whom the conscience spoke louder than the threat of breach of contract, lawsuits, jail, or worse, and did speak up and out. And people gathered and listened and were amazed. Some not so much because their notions of what was true were very close to what turned out to be when the whistle blew and the truth entered the light.

And then they died.
Maybe we should give the dead their respect in looking at the new whistle blower(s) who arrive to our attention from somewhere in the world to realize what they're risking for bravely stepping from the darkness of silence under threat and into the light for full disclosure.
And if we criticize there is only one maybe rather than think that means there are no others and the one is possibly out of their mind, we might just wish to consider all those numbered dead who came before. And maybe think that while there could be more who know that truth they wish not to be numbered too.

And so, there is just the one who in this case, and I'm not saying she is absolutely right, I'm saying she is absolutely bold and brave to do this, maybe arrived at the conscious conclusion that she'll risk being the next among the numbered dead among past whistle blowers because she can't live with the numbers of dead who succumb to this virus if she remains silent in the dark.

Just a thought.

Has she released the evidence yet?

 

[soggykitten]

Has she released the evidence yet?

COVID-19 Is 'Unrestricted Bioweapon': Whistleblower Releases Second Paper Alleging 'Large-Scale, Organized Scientific Fraud'
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/c...er-releases-second-paper-alleging-large-scale

 

[soggykitten]

October 8, 2020
Scientist who fled China: Chinese Communists arrested my mom because I told truth about COVID’s origin
https://theblogginghounds.com/2020/...mom-because-i-told-truth-about-covids-origin/

 

[Fundamental]

It is not possible for all virologists in the world to be working together in a secret diabolical plan except for her. If she thinks that then she is mentally disturbed regardless of her past achievements. People do go crazy after years of normalcy. We all believe that China is out to get her but not some virologist in the University of Tulane or Idaho, or Canada, etc. Come on!!!

Then why do virologists on payroll from governments worldwide changed their mantra to what was political achievable and not from their professional experience? We even debated if it is political correct to call it the Chinese virus. Kissing fascist butts seems a real thing these days.

Did you also follow up on the mask debates? Only the virologists pushed forward on the media changed their narratives, those not being paid by goverments did not change their narratives.

 

[Scribe]

I'll just say this. I've known people who knew things that they were sworn, even by contract, to keep secret. I've known people who to their credit arrived at the decision their conscience could not let them remain silent, while the world or parts of it sought answers and postulated sometimes unfathomable ideas of what truth was just to satisfy that need to know something. And some never realized how close their guess was to the real truth.

And I've known those people for whom the conscience spoke louder than the threat of breach of contract, lawsuits, jail, or worse, and did speak up and out. And people gathered and listened and were amazed. Some not so much because their notions of what was true were very close to what turned out to be when the whistle blew and the truth entered the light.

And then they died.
Maybe we should give the dead their respect in looking at the new whistle blower(s) who arrive to our attention from somewhere in the world to realize what they're risking for bravely stepping from the darkness of silence under threat and into the light for full disclosure.
And if we criticize there is only one maybe rather than think that means there are no others and the one is possibly out of their mind, we might just wish to consider all those numbered dead who came before. And maybe think that while there could be more who know that truth they wish not to be numbered too.

And so, there is just the one who in this case, and I'm not saying she is absolutely right, I'm saying she is absolutely bold and brave to do this, maybe arrived at the conscious conclusion that she'll risk being the next among the numbered dead among past whistle blowers because she can't live with the numbers of dead who succumb to this virus if she remains silent in the dark.

Just a thought.

The real story is probably that she has seen how her government will not allow the truth to be known. That there might have been a lab worker who got infected by working with bats and went out into the wild and they will not admit that they were responsible for such an accident so they destroyed evidence.

But we know that China is like that. She is probably trying to get our attention to tell us that China will lie and cover up things to save face. And if you are a threat to exposing something they will make you "dissapear." She probably does not comprehend that the intelligence of the USA is so good that we have known that and made it common knowledge so that most people in America already knew that.

She has been in a controlled country and does not realize how much the USA knows already. She is trying to sound an alarm about what we already know about China. I am glad she made it out. However her world view has been tainted and she thinks that all virologists in the world are controlled by their "bosses" like she was in China. That is not an accurate view of reality.

If she can prove that the virus was engineered by scientists in the lab, she should present her reasons. When Tucker asked her if other scientists would also be able to know about this, she said that they were all keeping it a secret. I don't think that is possible. She does because of her life in China.

 

[Scribe]

COVID-19 Is 'Unrestricted Bioweapon': Whistleblower Releases Second Paper Alleging 'Large-Scale, Organized Scientific Fraud'

Thanks, looks like it was released two days ago.

Download the PDF of her paper here https://zenodo.org/record/4073131#.X4H10tBKjIU

Reading her paper will give you her reasons. I don't like the way zerohedge always puts a spin on everything that is often NOT what the actual source says. Every zerohedge article I have ever read interpreted their source differently than what the source actually said.

I have not finished reading her report (33 pages) and I would not know enough to know whether her reasons are correct or not, but this looks like a good presentation and I look forward to reading from virologists that respond to it.

 

[Scribe]

I found the first report and it has been discussed by National Geographic site. They are discussing her first report
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/...ins-misinformation-yan-report-fact-check-cvd/

 

[Fundamental]

The real story is probably that she has seen how her government will not allow the truth to be known. That there might have been a lab worker who got infected by working with bats and went out into the wild and they will not admit that they were responsible for such an accident so they destroyed evidence.

But we know that China is like that. She is probably trying to get our attention to tell us that China will lie and cover up things to save face. And if you are a threat to exposing something they will make you "dissapear." She probably does not comprehend that the intelligence of the USA is so good that we have known that and made it common knowledge so that most people in America already knew that.

She has been in a controlled country and does not realize how much the USA knows already. She is trying to sound an alarm about what we already know about China. I am glad she made it out. However her world view has been tainted and she thinks that all virologists in the world are controlled by their "bosses" like she was in China. That is not an accurate view of reality.

If she can prove that the virus was engineered by scientists in the lab, she should present her reasons. When Tucker asked her if other scientists would also be able to know about this, she said that they were all keeping it a secret. I don't think that is possible. She does because of her life in China.

But “they” can engineer viruses without leaving scars on it. So it may look like it evolved naturally.
How can we prove that when no independent lab has those techniques? We’re batteling multi trillionairs here.

If China silences her opponents and puts people on trains (some to never return); it is time to address all those doing business with it. Did Bill Gates not do business in theh lab of Wuhan? And is that not the place where the virus emerged? 1 plus 1.

Meanwhile the Wuhan lab and the WHO have been hacked. A doctor denying it escaped from a lab does not mean anything in a country silencing her own people up. It should go under draconian investigation and all economical damage should be compensated directly from China. Wether it emerged from a lab or wet market, no difference.

We should not sell junk made from China anymore too. Europe kicked China off her 5G network for obvious safety reason.