There Will Be No Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Dissolves It By Fire!

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Blackpowderduelist

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Oyster Revelation 20:1-6 dosent show a physical kingdom upon this earth, it's 100% in the Lord's spiritual realm, no humans or kingdom on earth is seen, 100% Spiritual, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

Oyster you have one thing correct, all the old testament verses used in conjunction with Rev 20:1-6 is actually the eternal kingdom, example Zech 14:1-12, Ezekiel 47:1-12, Isaiah 11, Isaiah 65, all these chapters show

The Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem

Thanks for the response, look forward to your questions.
How do you explain Satan loosed to tempt again? He can't tempt those in a spirit realm.
 

Truth7t7

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How do you explain Satan loosed to tempt again? He can't tempt those in a spirit realm.
Satan is bound currently in the spiritual realm from (One Specific Purpose) and this purpose only, (Deceiving The Nations To Battle)

Many falsely teach Satan can't be bound, because he is currently deceiving the nations, but the scripture clearly teaches this is (Deceiving The Nations To Battle) at Armageddon, at the end of the tribulation, just before the second coming.

Revelation 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

The Verses Below Show Satan Loosed, As He Was Bound By The 6th Vial That Must Be Poured Out, The Deception Will Be Devil's Going Unto The Kings Of The Earth To Gather Them To The Battle Of Armageddon

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You absolutely ignored my post below, why?

Verse 1 do you see (The Day Of The Lord)?

Verse 6-7 Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5

Verse 8 Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 12 Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Zechariah 14 is the Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, The (New Creation)

Zechariah 14

Verse 1.) The day of the Lord is coming, same event seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13, the earth is DISSOlVED by fire

Verses 2-3.) The battle of Armageddon, all nations are gathered

Verse 4.) The second coming, as the spiritual consumes this physical world by fire

Verses 6-7.) Eternal light, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 8.) The eternal river of life, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 9-11.) The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, being revealed, the new Creation, the plain is lifted up.

Verse 12.) The Lord's last day fire in judgement, men are consumed, tongues, eyes, flesh, as they stand upon their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
No you ignored my post friend

You are talking about a time which follows the time I asked about. Can you please respond to my questions about sin and children in those days?
 
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Isaiah 11:6-9 is exactly the same place as Isaiah 65:17-25 The Eternal New Heaven And Earth, Same Wolf And Lamb, Same Holy Mountain

Same New Heaven And Earth Seen In Rev 22:1-5

The Words Of God Below Clearly Shows You This Fact, Why Do You Continue To Disregard The Simple Truth Before Your Eyes?

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 11:6-9KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 65:17-25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
So let me get this straight

You believe men and women will have sex in heaven and give birth to children and these children will be required to breast feed to live?
 

Truth7t7

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No you ignored my post friend

You are talking about a time which follows the time I asked about. Can you please respond to my questions about sin and children in those days?
Please answer the questions in bold red below we will continue after, thanks

Verse 1) do you see (The Day Of The Lord), 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Verse 6-7) Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 8) Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 12) Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Zechariah 14 is the Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, The (New Creation)

Zechariah 14

Verse 1.) The day of the Lord is coming, same event seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13, the earth is DISSOlVED by fire

Verses 2-3.) The battle of Armageddon, all nations are gathered

Verse 4.) The second coming, as the spiritual consumes this physical world by fire

Verses 6-7.) Eternal light, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 8.) The eternal river of life, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 9-11.) The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, being revealed, the new Creation, the plain is lifted up.

Verse 12.) The Lord's last day fire in judgement, men are consumed, tongues, eyes, flesh, as they stand upon their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
 

Truth7t7

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So let me get this straight

You believe men and women will have sex in heaven and give birth to children and these children will be required to breast feed to live?
Why Do You Continue To Fight Against The Simple Truth, Your Looking At The New Heavens, Earth, And Jerusalem?

Not one word below states women are having sex and giving birth as you falsely claim, nor that children are actually nursing a woman's breast.

The context is on age, a suckling child is younger than a weaned child.

Isaiah 11:6-9 is exactly the same place as Isaiah 65:17-25 The Eternal New Heaven And Earth, Same Wolf And Lamb, Same Holy Mountain

Same New Heaven And Earth Seen In Rev 22:1-5

The Words Of God Below Clearly Shows You This Fact, Why Do You Continue To Disregard The Simple Truth Before Your Eyes?

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 11:6-9KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 65:17-25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
 
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Please answer the questions in bold red below we will continue after, thanks

Verse 1) do you see (The Day Of The Lord), 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Verse 6-7) Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 8) Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 12) Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Zechariah 14 is the Eternal Kingdom, In The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, The (New Creation)

Zechariah 14

Verse 1.) The day of the Lord is coming, same event seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13, the earth is DISSOlVED by fire

Verses 2-3.) The battle of Armageddon, all nations are gathered

Verse 4.) The second coming, as the spiritual consumes this physical world by fire

Verses 6-7.) Eternal light, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 8.) The eternal river of life, Rev 22:1-5

Verse 9-11.) The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, being revealed, the new Creation, the plain is lifted up.

Verse 12.) The Lord's last day fire in judgement, men are consumed, tongues, eyes, flesh, as they stand upon their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13

Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
I asked my question first

Can you please answer? Or I will walk away. I have already established that the time in rev and other passages are in the new earth. So your question has already been answered
 
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Why Do You Continue To Fight Against The Simple Truth, Your Looking At The New Heavens, Earth, And Jerusalem?

Not one word below states women are having sex and giving birth as you falsely claim, nor that children are actually nursing a woman's breast.

The context is on age, a suckling child is younger than a weaned child.

Isaiah 11:6-9 is exactly the same place as Isaiah 65:17-25 The Eternal New Heaven And Earth, Same Wolf And Lamb, Same Holy Mountain

Same New Heaven And Earth Seen In Rev 22:1-5

The Words Of God Below Clearly Shows You This Fact, Why Do You Continue To Disregard The Simple Truth Before Your Eyes?

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 11:6-9KJV
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Isaiah 65:17-25KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
18 But be ye glad and rejoice for ever in that which I create: for, behold, I create Jerusalem a rejoicing, and her people a joy.
19 And I will rejoice in Jerusalem, and joy in my people: and the voice of weeping shall be no more heard in her, nor the voice of crying.
20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 And they shall build houses, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and eat the fruit of them.
22 They shall not build, and another inhabit; they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labour in vain, nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord, and their offspring with them.
24 And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

(The Eternal Kingdom)

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
Dude I proved in the OT that there is a time on earth where Jesus is in Jerusalem and there is punishment and there are babies born

Now be honest and explain how this can be if we are in eternity and we have all been Resurrected
now if you can’t just say so. But your insistence I am ignoring anything is getting old. I have tried to be respectful. I expect the same
 
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Satan is bound currently in the spiritual realm from (One Specific Purpose) and this purpose only, (Deceiving The Nations To Battle)

Many falsely teach Satan can't be bound, because he is currently deceiving the nations, but the scripture clearly teaches this is (Deceiving The Nations To Battle) at Armageddon, at the end of the tribulation, just before the second coming.

Revelation 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations
which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

The Verses Below Show Satan Loosed, As He Was Bound By The 6th Vial That Must Be Poured Out, The Deception Will Be Devil's Going Unto The Kings Of The Earth To Gather Them To The Battle Of Armageddon

Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
So it is your belief that Satan is bound now? I'm just trying to understand the whole idea here.
Just now thinking about the prophecies, and end times. I have come to the conclusion that everything that I was taught is basically wrong, so I'm just trying to figure it out.
 

Truth7t7

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#30
I asked my question first

Can you please answer? Or I will walk away. I have already established that the time in rev and other passages are in the new earth. So your question has already been answered
You haven't answered the questions, that were posted before yours, it's not a one sided debate, this isn't the democratic convention or CNN
 

Truth7t7

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#31
Dude I proved in the OT that there is a time on earth where Jesus is in Jerusalem and there is punishment and there are babies born

Now be honest and explain how this can be if we are in eternity and we have all been Resurrected
now if you can’t just say so. But your insistence I am ignoring anything is getting old. I have tried to be respectful. I expect the same
You have proven nothing, your claims have been soundly refuted, you deny that the New Heaven, Earth, And Jerusalem is seen in Isaiah chapters 11& 65

You haven't shown respect, you ignored my questions that were presented before yours

Please answer the questions in bold red below we will continue after, thanks

Verse 1) do you see (The Day Of The Lord), 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Verse 6-7) Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 8) Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 12) Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You haven't answered the questions, that were posted before yours, it's not a one sided debate, this isn't the democratic convention or CNN
yet your making it one sided because I have ad,it ted that the time you speak of is the time I. Heaven, so there is no question for you to ask

Asked about a time BEFORE those events take place and you continue to refuse to answer, except for one time declair I g it was the same time in heaven, at which time I asked how there can be sin and sex and new children born in heaven (if it is the same time as you suggest)

I have valid questions, you can continue to ignore them at which time I will assume you can’t answer them and I will move on, or you can answer them and we can have a brotherly discussion in love
 

GraceAndTruth

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POINT: the word for THOUSAND as translated in the bible is actually the Greek word chiloi which means MANY thousand, one thousand would be chilias
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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POINT: the word for THOUSAND as translated in the bible is actually the Greek word chiloi which means MANY thousand, one thousand would be chilias
Interesting, I will look that up.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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You have proven nothing, your claims have been soundly refuted, you deny that the New Heaven, Earth, And Jerusalem is seen in Isaiah chapters 11& 65

You haven't shown respect, you ignored my questions that were presented before yours

Please answer the questions in bold red below we will continue after, thanks

Verse 1) do you see (The Day Of The Lord), 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Verse 6-7) Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 8) Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 12) Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?
lol have admitted it how many times?

yesi see all those things. and I
now will you look at my things which speak of a time BEFORE those events.
explain to me how there is sin in heaven and births in heaven

can you do this?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Satan is not bound now. every nation is deceived, Satan is at work, as paul said, he creeps like a rousing lion trying to find who he can devour, when Satan is bound he can not devour anyone, and the nations at that time will all know the lord God, and worship him
 

Truth7t7

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So it is your belief that Satan is bound now? I'm just trying to understand the whole idea here.
Just now thinking about the prophecies, and end times. I have come to the conclusion that everything that I was taught is basically wrong, so I'm just trying to figure it out.
Be Glad To Help, Ask All The Questions You Want, Let's Untangle Those Spider Webs (y)

I was taught wrong also, followed the false teachings of (Dispensationalism) for 20 years without question.

Yes Satan Is Currently Bound By The 6th Vial As Shown, The Thousand Years Is Symbolic Of A Long Period Of Time, That Seen In Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% Spiritual Realm, Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ.

One Day Is A Thousand Years In The Spiritual, No Literal Time, 2 Peter 3:8

Many falsely teach this represents a literal 1,000 year Millennial kingdom on this earth, then they run you off to chapters in Zechariah 14, Isaiah 11, and Isaiah 65 and claim this represents a mortal human kingdom on this earth, (A Lie) these all represent the eternal kingdom in the New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem (Eternal)

Ask All Ya Want, Be Glad To Help!

Jesus Christ Is Lord (y)
 

GraceAndTruth

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Jesus comes at the LAST trump.... the last trump signified THE END, period, put paid to it, it is FINISHED.
2 Peter says that after the last trump and we are caught up with Him, the earth is destroyed by intense heat.
2 PETER 3: 10-13 but I recommend reading at least the whole chapter
 

Truth7t7

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POINT: the word for THOUSAND as translated in the bible is actually the Greek word chiloi which means MANY thousand, one thousand would be chilias
I agree, meaning a long period of time, not a literal thousand years.

One day is a thousand years in the Lord's spiritual realm of no earthly time.
 

Truth7t7

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yet your making it one sided because I have ad,it ted that the time you speak of is the time I. Heaven, so there is no question for you to ask

Asked about a time BEFORE those events take place and you continue to refuse to answer, except for one time declair I g it was the same time in heaven, at which time I asked how there can be sin and sex and new children born in heaven (if it is the same time as you suggest)

I have valid questions, you can continue to ignore them at which time I will assume you can’t answer them and I will move on, or you can answer them and we can have a brotherly discussion in love
Please answer the individual questions in bold red below, we will continue after, thanks

Verse 1) do you see (The Day Of The Lord), 2 Peter 3:10-13?

Verse 6-7) Do you see eternal light, also seen in Rev 22:1-5?

Verse 8) Do you see the river of life, Rev 22:1-5?
Verse 12) Do you see man being (Dissolved) by the Lord's fire 2 Peter 3:10-13?


Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
1 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.