How did God die for our sins, if God cannot die?
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Hello Roxana, while I agree with you, perhaps you should explain what you mean, because I've heard several different answers to the question that you asked us in your title!
Thanks!
~Deut
God the Father is Spirit, and cannot die. God the Son was manifest in the flesh, and His physical body died.
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kaylagrl
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Hello again Roxana, I thought it was a good idea for you to post what you meant by "self explanatory" in this case, and I see that I was right about that. Thank you for letting us know what you believe
That said, the Bible and historic Christianity teach us that Jesus Christ is God, and that He became a man at His Incarnation, as well, but you disagree with them both. Why
Thanks!
~Deut
John 1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.
4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.
14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Hello again Roxana, I thought it was a good idea for you to post what you meant by "self explanatory" in this case, and I see that I was right about that. Thank you for letting us know what you believe
That said, the Bible and historic Christianity teach us that Jesus Christ is God, and that He became a man at His Incarnation, as well, but you disagree with them both. Why
Thanks!
~Deut
John 11 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 He was in the beginning with God.3 All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Jesus did not become a man.
That's a great question, @RoxanaOfPersia. It's addressed in this video that I believe you'll find interesting.
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pottersclay
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Well roxanaofpersia if you do not believe that Jesus came in the flesh then there is no reason for any conversation to continue.
And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”
Good day
The Son of God, who is God, became a human being in order to represent us. He was without sin, but took upon himself the wrath that every believer deserves and was beaten, ridiculed and crucified in a real human body which died on the cross. So, he did physically die. His spirit went down to that same area of comfort within Hades where Abraham and Lazarus were and after three days His spirit reentered His body, resurrecting immortal and glorified.
The bodies of human beings die, but their spirits are also conscious and aware, going either to be in the presence of the Lord, or going down into Hades.
Philippians 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Now you might not believe the Bible is true or inspired, but that's another issue altogether.
I am really puzzled as to what is your goal and purpose here. What are you arguing?
What's your point? Why not explain the full scope of what you want to get across instead of just going back and forth.
I'm not interested into playing games with you or anybody. It's not too much to ask in a conversation that another person states their intent and clearly explain their views that they want to share. If you refuse to simply explain your views and choose to troll back and forth instead, too bad.
I'll jump in by saying that I disagree with part of what you said, the part of your quote that I just put in bold above. Both the Bible and Christianity also disagree with you about that.
~Deut
Jesus is by definition fully divine and fully HUMAN. He did not 'become' human.