Should people who don’t live in that country, have an opinion on that country’s problem?

[SarahUmbreon]

I disagree with this a little. There are male gynecologists, who are able to offer medical advice (opinion) which is not based on personal experience. Likewise, mothers make a decision to circumcise (or not) baby boys, despite not having firsthand experience of the procedure. The bible also touches on many subjects, and one may use God's precedents as a means to better understand the best outcome for a circumstance.

The question should be about the validity of information the opined one is using, not about what personal experience he or she has had.

Okay that is true, I can agree with you on that.

I was just responding to a post that said something of how sometimes how someone doesn’t want to hear a man’s opinion and maybe that’s why we have a Womens forum on CC. Trying to give a point how maybe that user could be right on not hearing a man’s opinion. Trying to show both sides as it were.

But yes your last paragraph is what is truly matters in any debate and opinion forming.

 

[lenna]

Immigration is a grey area to me because there are good reasons to be pro and anti immigration. There is no singular reason why immigration is always good without exception.

So I think there is a balance with immigration like there is with self-defense. One cannot always be pro-self-defense in all scebarios like the Hulk is who at the slightest offense goes Hulk Smash! We should have measured responses and sometimes no response at all. Pro-self defense toward all things is actually just reckless. See what I mean.

There is a balance with which political ideology is right if multiple parties bring good ideas to the table.

So that's what my thinking is like if that makes any sense.

well it makes as much sense to me as trying to nail jello to a wall ... if that makes sense

 

[Lanolin]

you could freeze the jello maybe.

 

[stepbystep]

I would think if you were to ask anyone about anything, that they would come up with an opinion. The question should be: Do they have the right to express that opinion?

Honestly, I do not think it would matter what we think. People who have opinions about something will usually express them regardless of what the subject is or how it affects them. People are that way.

That is probably how the old saying came about. You know: Opinions are like ..................

 

[Lanolin]

on a forum you are free to express an opinion I would think you are even encouraged to expresss it!

as for a right, well, anyone that joins up can post, but that doesnt mean that you need to reply or respond to every single thing.

Most people dont express their opinion because they dont think they are going to be heard. If too many people express their opinions and they are all different, then its maybe gonna be a bit noisy and chaotic.

the thing is you dont need to agree with everyones opinion if its different from yours. But I guess thats where the arguments come from because opinion sharing can make people uncomfortable. But thing is, everyone has their own point of view even if you are an identical twin or married, its not always going to be the same.

Some people really value the thought processes of others, some just say whatever they want without thinking, but thats more about feelings than thoughts. Feelings and thoughts might not necessarily match.

If you have a thing where you believe your thoughts dont matter, I would say to some extent you are being controlled by someone else, or maybe you have a 'thought police' either yourself or someone else. Some thoughts can be very disorganised, ie people on drugs arent necessarily thinking straight!
You cannot for example, reason with anyone who is intoxicated or 'under the influence'.

if you invite the holy spirit to change your thoughts to be more christlike, you start to notice how what you think about things changes, until you are thinking lovely thoughts and not bothered by bad or evil thoughts anymore. To me, thats evidence that God is working on our lives, and will bring us more joy. He has it written all down in His book anyway. You CAN read God thoughts as He has made them available to us through scripture.

 

[true_believer]

Since we now live in a global village....Yes!!!

 

[Lanolin]

a person who doesnt live in a country maybe they are just visiting or passing through, is often invited to express their opinion in a visitors book.

So some people actively seek out outsiders opinions. And I think in some cases its valuable to have someone elses persepective or first impressions of a place, but they wouldnt really be able to really see it in the same way as a person who has lived there for a long time.

 

[Lanolin]

as for a problem, say you have a problem, you dont really know how to solve.
You put it to a forum and ask if people can come up with ways to solve it. It might be the answer comes from someone who can see the problem from a higher perpsective.

Most of the times I offer up a real big problem to God who can see where the issue is maybe Ive overlooked cos Im too close to it.

 

[soggykitten]

I was just thinking about it, since most of us are from a variety of places, should we have opinions on different countries?

Like should someone who doesn’t live in Texas, should they have an opinion on Texas’s huge illegal immigration problem? Like I know Illegal immigration occurs everywhere, with any place that share a border, but I know situations are different everywhere, because God made us all unique and we are human, we are flawed because we live in fallen world.

This could also work on the flip side of “Should Americans be concerned about stuff that happens in Europe, like Brexit?”, I know Brexit already happen but just showing how this could be applied the other way around.

Overall, I think it’s a very gray issue, like a person can research and stay informed, but someone could argue they don’t truly know, if they haven’t experienced going down to the Mexican market in San Antonio, or having to deal with a customer that doesn’t know English, etc. It can also be argued that those people are thinking of emotions first rather than facts, I agree facts matter over emotion, but I think living through a difficult state problem, is a lot more different than seeing what experts say. Both sides have there pros and cons, which is why I think this is a gray issue.

Post what you think and remember, please be civil, if you see someone you don’t agree with, maybe just leave a dislike and move on. Most of us on here already know, most people on here are too stubborn to change opinions, but I honestly like hearing what everyone has to say ^_^

People will always have opinions. However, when it comes to the politics of a nation they're not a citizen of, then while they'll have an opinion they shouldn't be an arse about it. They don't live there so they really have no dog in the fight.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

People will always have opinions. However, when it comes to the politics of a nation they're not a citizen of, then while they'll have an opinion they shouldn't be an arse about it. They don't live there so they really have no dog in the fight.

Agreed, I was actually thinking about it, and even though I don’t live in Japan, I do know about their problems with suicide rates and how hard their lifestyle is, but I can only see it from an outsider perspective, understanding how it works when people review anime, and saying how the anime can tie into Japan’s culture overall, cause a lot of anime is usually Japanese in culture, which makes sense cause all anime is made in Japan. I know people tend to argue you can’t truly understand how Japan is/how to speak Japanese by just watching anime, and I can see where that argument is coming from, but I think if someone tries to learn about where their favorite anime comes from, and learns about Japan, I think that is okay. I have learned a lot by watching people break down anime, and talk about it, like with older shows, how it ties into Japanese culture when like anime were out in the 1970s/1980s as an example.

Which I think is good because I know they struggle as a country, very much so. So yeah I think people if their opinions on different situations in a country are of meanness or just following what everyone else says without thinking for themselves, is bad, but I think if it is something you truly worry about, they have a Forest in Japan where people commit suicide at a very high rate as an example, then I think having that kind of opinion is okay. Cause I do truly worry about Japan, I know they are not the only country struggling and I would never live there, I will happily stay in the USA, but there’s just something about the way Japan views life as seen in its media I think I just really connect with, and knowing they can have a hard life because of their own culture, makes me worry for them.

 

[SoulWeaver]

It can be annoying when people are spouting opinions, but they aren't actually informed on the subject, so they don't actually know what they are talking about, or are one sided because they looked at biased sources only. But having opinions is a God given right. Even a fool has a right to an opinion. Opinions form on every occasion, it's just whether we speak them or not.

 

[Moses_Young]

Agreed, I was actually thinking about it, and even though I don’t live in Japan, I do know about their problems with suicide rates and how hard their lifestyle is, but I can only see it from an outsider perspective, understanding how it works when people review anime, and saying how the anime can tie into Japan’s culture overall, cause a lot of anime is usually Japanese in culture, which makes sense cause all anime is made in Japan. I know people tend to argue you can’t truly understand how Japan is/how to speak Japanese by just watching anime, and I can see where that argument is coming from, but I think if someone tries to learn about where their favorite anime comes from, and learns about Japan, I think that is okay. I have learned a lot by watching people break down anime, and talk about it, like with older shows, how it ties into Japanese culture when like anime were out in the 1970s/1980s as an example.

Which I think is good because I know they struggle as a country, very much so. So yeah I think people if their opinions on different situations in a country are of meanness or just following what everyone else says without thinking for themselves, is bad, but I think if it is something you truly worry about, they have a Forest in Japan where people commit suicide at a very high rate as an example, then I think having that kind of opinion is okay. Cause I do truly worry about Japan, I know they are not the only country struggling and I would never live there, I will happily stay in the USA, but there’s just something about the way Japan views life as seen in its media I think I just really connect with, and knowing they can have a hard life because of their own culture, makes me worry for them.

But surely if people in a country have an opinion (say Japan with its suicide problem) , and their opinion is valid, their opinion could or should be used to avert the problem. But if such opinions do not stop the issue, then surely the accepted opinion in that country is wrong, and these people need outside help, perhaps from a country that doesn't share that problem?

^ My opinion on the incorrect opinions of others, especially Japan.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

But surely if people in a country have an opinion (say Japan with its suicide problem) , and their opinion is valid, their opinion could or should be used to avert the problem. But if such opinions do not stop the issue, then surely the accepted opinion in that country is wrong, and these people need outside help, perhaps from a country that doesn't share that problem?

^ My opinion on the incorrect opinions of others, especially Japan.

Yeah that’s why I made this thread also, as opinions can be incorrect, but that’s the thing, opinions will always have some sort of flaw, because facts are true, opinions are based on our understanding of these facts, so the human element is present in opinions.

Since I felt compelled to, I made a thread discussing why Japan needs help, from how I’ve seen their nerd culture has a lot of homosexuality/ heterosexual sexual porn/ homosexual porn, and it ties into the fact that Christianity is just not a major religion in Japan, link: https://christianchat.com/miscellan...r-everyone-and-japans-culture-overall.194706/

Yes I used a lot of Wikipedia, but if you want me to, I would be more than happy to link some YouTube videos where I found out about these facts.

 

[Moses_Young]

Yeah that’s why I made this thread also, as opinions can be incorrect, but that’s the thing, opinions will always have some sort of flaw, because facts are true, opinions are based on our understanding of these facts, so the human element is present in opinions.

Since I felt compelled to, I made a thread discussing why Japan needs help, from how I’ve seen their nerd culture has a lot of homosexuality/ heterosexual sexual porn/ homosexual porn, and it ties into the fact that Christianity is just not a major religion in Japan, link: https://christianchat.com/miscellan...r-everyone-and-japans-culture-overall.194706/

Yes I used a lot of Wikipedia, but if you want me to, I would be more than happy to link some YouTube videos where I found out about these facts.

I read an article once by Henry Makow - a Jewish-conspiracy-researcher - which made the claim that all pornography is homosexual - designed to destroy and prevent proper marriage. I agree that it is. People get addicted to the cheap substitute, which destroys their chances of finding the real thing.

 

[Lanolin]

maybe you can ask someone from Japan who doesnt live their anymore, and they would have an opinion as both an insider and an outsider.
The other way is to talk to someone who lives in Japan, who will probably see it in a different way than someone whos just visiting.

I dont fully understand the high suicide rate in my own country, let alone anothers. Here its youth suicides, but apparently lots of old people do it too, and farmers too.

speaking of suicide we are even having a referenda on 'end of life choice' i.e euthanasia or assisited suicide. Its not just a thing in Japan its worldwide.
Ive been to Japan but just as a stop over.
I stayed overnight in the airport hotel. I can tell you my impressions. I couldnt figure out how to open the door or work the toilet. It was too high tech for me. The food was yummy though.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

maybe you can ask someone from Japan who doesnt live their anymore, and they would have an opinion as both an insider and an outsider.
The other way is to talk to someone who lives in Japan, who will probably see it in a different way than someone whos just visiting.

I dont fully understand the high suicide rate in my own country, let alone anothers. Here its youth suicides, but apparently lots of old people do it too, and farmers too.

speaking of suicide we are even having a referenda on 'end of life choice' i.e euthanasia or assisited suicide. Its not just a thing in Japan its worldwide.
Ive been to Japan but just as a stop over.
I stayed overnight in the airport hotel. I can tell you my impressions. I couldnt figure out how to open the door or work the toilet. It was too high tech for me. The food was yummy though.

So I don’t know anyone from Japan, and I really don’t feel comfortable trying to contact someone online, as it is easy to lie online. So I just gotta use YouTube videos/article information. I would love to visit Japan someday, but I’m not “dying” to go, as some nerds are, those nerds are the “Weeaboos” and “Otakus”, lol

From someone who thought of killing herself twice, it comes from stress, aniexty, depression, being bullied, and many other things. I definitely understand why suicide rates would be high in countries that demand success, as in if you are not successful with having a job or finishing college as examples, then you are nothing. It is all part of the fact we are human, it also depends on how people are raised, as people with abusive parents/not loving parents would wonder why is life worth living, which can lead to suicide. Plus, there are the suicides from drug overdoses.

I know Japan is not the only place that struggles with suicide, we have a suicide hotline, for people to call in the USA if they feel like they are about to kill themselves, and need someone to talk them out of it. It’s just when you have a forest that is know for being a place of suicide and might be haunted by ghosts, it just seems like a really bad problem in Japan. I know there are people that have fallen off bridges/buildings around the world to end their life, but like I said, there’s just something about Japan that connects with me. I will never live there and I am a PROUD citizen of the UNITED STATES (Put the “America, f*ck yeah!” theme here, lol), but I guess it’s just from all my years watching anime and learning on YouTube that I have this concern, lol.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

Well I think opinions are different categories, there are opinions on politics, opinions on science, opinions on videogames, opinions on Muslim religion, etc.

I was only trying to ask of opinions on political/social matters of a different country. I think we can all have opinions on human things, like abortion, because we are all human and have known mothers, people expecting children, struggled with raising children, etc.

But when it comes to political/culture issues, then that’s where it can get muddy. Like I think seeing what happens in other countries is important, but it’s an outsider perspective, it’s not the same as a perspective as someone in that country, going through that issue.

That’s what I was trying to explain, because opinions are different from facts, opinions are usually formed on what we hear, look up, and watch. I just thought it would make for an interesting topic, but hey I’m a Asperger’s syndrome woman, my opinion is nothing but a “speck of rice”, you can chose to listen or don’t to me. As is the case with everyone, but viewpoints are hard cause we all grew up in different places, it’s all part of the human condition honestly.

You seem to be the only one thinking it's a grey area. It's not. And when people begin arguing For people having and sharing those opinions you interpret that as people not understanding and feel you have to explain everything all over again. People understand what you're asking, they simply disagree with your view.
It almost sounds less like you're seeking to hear what people say and more like you're trying to convince them of your view. My guess is that's not intentional, but it's beginning to come across as that's what you're doing (at least up to this point in the thread).

 

[SarahUmbreon]

You seem to be the only one thinking it's a grey area. It's not. And when people begin arguing For people having and sharing those opinions you interpret that as people not understanding and feel you have to explain everything all over again. People understand what you're asking, they simply disagree with your view.
It almost sounds less like you're seeking to hear what people say and more like you're trying to convince them of your view. My guess is that's not intentional, but it's beginning to come across as that's what you're doing (at least up to this point in the thread).

I just feel like they might have a hard time understanding me because I think differently due to my disability. They can disagree with me, I don’t care, I have come to realize that most debates on CC are not peaceful.

I just want to say my opinion without being judged, I said my opinion on homosexuality on Instagram, and had lost followers, was sent clown music, and even had a friend that I had for the last 2 to 3 years, block even, even though he claimed to be Christian. I just like how open I can be, I can’t be open anywhere else but here, besides my parents. I know I shouldn’t worry, but being judged by others hurts, it legit hurts.

That’s why I’m so quick to say it’s easier for people to hate me, because most of my opinions are the kind of stuff a lot of people in today’s world don’t like. I have just learned hearing and reading others opinions, that’s why I’m so interested in opinions.

And if you don’t believe me, then just hate me. I am legit tired of people saying: “Oh Sarah’s so nice and helpful”, I’m human damnit all, I’m not just about being happy. No one has said they have hate me, I know they think it, but I guess I just want someone to say they hate me, probably because I’m tired of getting praise. If you decide to not hate me, then that’s cool, if you disagree with me, that’s cool too, but just respect me. I believe EVERYONE needs to be treated with respect and honesty.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

You seem to be the only one thinking it's a grey area. It's not. And when people begin arguing For people having and sharing those opinions you interpret that as people not understanding and feel you have to explain everything all over again. People understand what you're asking, they simply disagree with your view.
It almost sounds less like you're seeking to hear what people say and more like you're trying to convince them of your view. My guess is that's not intentional, but it's beginning to come across as that's what you're doing (at least up to this point in the thread).

I thought about it while doing other stuff, and I want to apologize, sorry. I have to be honest, what you said got under my skin and pissed me off, sometimes when I get pissed off, I feel like I gotta defend myself with walls, or as I was thinking, “spitting fire at others” with how I reacted. I was thinking on how my Dad doesn’t understand why I don’t like the Emoji movie, I tried explaining but he doesn’t get it, and I realized after talking to him about it, he doesn’t have to. I know I can’t change his mind, and I’ve come to realize this on here as well. It was not my intention to change minds, but to let me take advantage of the speaking freedom I have on here, cause I truly do feel free.

Sometimes I don’t want to hurt other’s feelings, so I try to be nice as possible and respectful as well, but I matter too, I wish I had more self confidence In myself, cause I wasn’t kidding, I just wish people would tell me they hate me if I’m being too annoying, so I know to tone it down or be careful what I say around that person.

That’s just what I honestly feel, anyway, if you don’t accept my apology, I will be fine. I just hope we can get back to peaceful speaking terms.

 

[Adstar]

We form opinions on any situation we are informed of.. No matter if they are local or in some distant country.. And we may voice that opinion.. But in the end the people who live in the locality of that situation will have the main say in how that situation is dealt with..