Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2

[throughfaith]

You are absolutely right.

is the gift of God: what is ? salvation . Being saved by Grace ,through Faith . Otherwise your saying in some sense regeneration precedes faith .

 

[OIC1965]

is the gift of God: what is ? salvation . Being saved by Grace ,through Faith . Otherwise your saying in some sense regeneration precedes faith .

I don’t believe in regeneration before faith.

 

[throughfaith]

Pretty much on everything in Tulip except eternal security.

This is the most calvinstlc discussion I've ever had on here with an alleged ' non calvinst ' ,followed by EG lol 😆

 

[OIC1965]

This is the most calvinstlc discussion I've ever had on here with an ' non calvinst ' ,followed by EG lol 😆

Take your anti Calvin lenses off when you read the Bible. It will help.

It’s not good to come to the Bible with the sole desire to disprove something. Let it speak in its own context.

 

[throughfaith]

Elect to be holy and blameless before God in love to begin with.

Yes After we believe. 1 cor 1.21 . Eph 1 . 13-14

 

[OIC1965]

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Yes After we believe. 1 cor 1.21 . Eph 1 . 13-14

Are we elected to adoption after we believe?

 

[throughfaith]

Take your anti Calvin lenses off when you read the Bible. It will help.

It’s not good to come to the Bible with the sole desire to disprove something. Let it speak in its own context.

I don't. Only when I'm speaking to someone who is calvinistic . Usually this comes across with an Arminain , Wesleyan, methodist, and of course other reformed traditions and denominations .

 

[throughfaith]

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Are we elected to adoption after we believe?

predestined to the Adoption after we believe.

 

[throughfaith]

Take your anti Calvin lenses off when you read the Bible. It will help.

It’s not good to come to the Bible with the sole desire to disprove something. Let it speak in its own context.

its not easy ,when your using so much calvinistic terminolgy and phrases .I don't think I'm alone in spotting this ? We have to be aware of these matters .Otherwise you could be in a non calvinst church and your new pastor could very easily be teaching calvinism under your nose . This happens all the time .

 

[throughfaith]

Thank you for sharing that you don’t hold that faith is a gift. Let everyone evaluate that statement independantly.

Faith is not the gift in Eph 2 . Were not ' given ' faith in order to believe. Through our faith we are saved . Faith comes by hearing the word of God . 1 cor 1.21 .

 

[throughfaith]

It is referring to the whole thing and so is the word “that”. That not of yourselves.

So the whole thing is not of ourselves, the whole thing is a gift of God.

Of course salvation is not of ourselves. its the gift of God not of works . The point is Grace v works .

 

[eternally-gratefull]

This is the most calvinstlc discussion I've ever had on here with an alleged ' non calvinst ' ,followed by EG lol 😆

Lol. It’s all good man. You just proved the point that you can not hear a word people say

There is nothing calvinist About the other person it’s all in your head

 

[OIC1965]

its not easy ,when your using so much calvinistic terminolgy and phrases .I don't think I'm alone in spotting this ? We have to be aware of these matters .Otherwise you could be in a non calvinst church and your new pastor could very easily be teaching calvinism under your nose . This happens all the time .

Every phrase I’ve used comes from the Bible.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Take your anti Calvin lenses off when you read the Bible. It will help.

It’s not good to come to the Bible with the sole desire to disprove something. Let it speak in its own context.

And also when he talks to people because you will
Never hear a word that say

 

[throughfaith]

Every phrase I’ve used comes from the Bible.

" Golden chain of redemption ' ?

 

[OIC1965]

Faith is not the gift in Eph 2 . Were not ' given ' faith in order to believe. Through our faith we are saved . Faith comes by hearing the word of God . 1 cor 1.21 .

I gave you a list of verses earlier. Did you read them?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

its not easy ,when your using so much calvinistic terminolgy and phrases .I don't think I'm alone in spotting this ? We have to be aware of these matters .Otherwise you could be in a non calvinst church and your new pastor could very easily be teaching calvinism under your nose . This happens all the time .

Dude I am beginning to think you are not serious you just want to mock people. This statement is so far from truth about the person you wrote it To you are either decieved or just playing a game looking for a reaction and I doubt you are decieved

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Every phrase I’ve used comes from the Bible.

I am begining to think he is just
Playing with you bro. Something is
Not right. He can’t be that far off in discernment

 

[OIC1965]

" Golden chain of redemption ' ?

Are you opposed to scarlet thread of redemption too?

So what do you disagree with. That the things in Romans 8:28-30 are precious, that they are connected, or that they relate to redemption?

 

[throughfaith]

Faith comes by hearing the word of God (Rom. 10:11-14), which is sent (or granted) first to the Jew and then the Gentile (Rom. 1:16). In other words, God is enabling faith by bringing the word of faith (His revelation), which is said to go first to Israel and then to “the high-ways and by-ways…the good and bad alike” (see the wedding banquet parable in Matt. 22). Remember, during the time of Paul, the Jews, generally speaking, had grown calloused to God’s revelation, otherwise they might have seen, heard, understood and turned to God, so the apostles took the message of repentance to the Gentiles, who unlike the Jews, “were willing to listen” (see Acts 28:27-28; John 12:39-41; Romans 9-11).

Are you opposed to scarlet thread of redemption too?

So what do you disagree with. That the things in Romans 8:28-30 are precious, that they are connected, or that they relate to redemption?

No ' atonement ' mentioned . ( redemption) The catchphrase is Garbage .