In the Garden

[Blain]

Yes and it is trade that made countries great, not wars. We went through a long period of peace because of trade deals. But this was a ticking time bomb as resources only get more scarce.
When energy could be traded we went into more intens warfare. It was not about oil alone, it was also about in which currency it would be dealed. Euro, dollar or even a golden dinar was in the making.

I believe each country can become self sufficient (in food and energy supplies) without suffering a day of hunger. It is our need for more that is draining the earths resources before earth can naturally resupply.
In stead of fighting for color slash culture related equality, let us unite in making clean water, a proper home and healthcare a fundamental basic human right. We pay taxes enough for that to be achieved. Yet once following the money; those messing up our earth the most get paid the most too. Paid with taxmoney even when they are not elected.

I agree with your last sentence but in all honestey when has mankind ever been able to help itself?
The world thinks this is abvout money politics and evrerything of the world but never has been it has always been about God and about those who are who his, it doesn't matter how much money or what kind of currecny we have or how much abundance we have of eveerything because those are all materiaal things and something I have learned in growing in Christ is that material things are always temporary
Trust me a time is coming and is at the door even now when these things will be as garbage more than ever we have to pay attention to the signs we have to study and learn to understand the scriptures because sooner than we think things are going to take a 180 and not for the better there is a reason we are to study and understand the scriptures especially bible prophecy

 

[Fundamental]

I agree with your last sentence but in all honestey when has mankind ever been able to help itself?
The world thinks this is abvout money politics and evrerything of the world but never has been it has always been about God and about those who are who his, it doesn't matter how much money or what kind of currecny we have or how much abundance we have of eveerything because those are all materiaal things and something I have learned in growing in Christ is that material things are always temporary
Trust me a time is coming and is at the door even now when these things will be as garbage more than ever we have to pay attention to the signs we have to study and learn to understand the scriptures because sooner than we think things are going to take a 180 and not for the better there is a reason we are to study and understand the scriptures especially bible prophecy

Have you ever read the book Ismael of Daniel Quinn? It reveals imho why people can’t take care of themselves anymore. You are absolutely right. If we simply took what was given and no more, we would all live in abundance. All you need is food, clothes, healthcare, shelter and hygienic facilities right? Do we really need govermental control? It is commonly understood by real entrepreneurs that govermental interferance is the best way to mess a project up.

How did America become great in the first place? People placed flags around an area and claimed it as their own. They were free to do whatever they wanted to do with that land and expanded like no nation ever before in history. But then some politicians come taking their share they do not own nor earned and you get into civil wars like never before in human history ;D

As for today, we past a point of no return and mass extinction is very near. It’s all staged by powers we take for reality but only serve a handful of psychopats thinking they can play on global level. This is our world outside the garden of Eden. You may say we deforrested our own paradise into an industrial complex that might be very interdimensional. Explained in the Bible and personified as “Satan”.

 

[Blain]

Have you ever read the book Ismael of Daniel Quinn? It reveals imho why people can’t take care of themselves anymore. You are absolutely right. If we simply took what was given and no more, we would all live in abundance. All you need is food, clothes, healthcare, shelter and hygienic facilities right? Do we really need govermental control? It is commonly understood by real entrepreneurs that govermental interferance is the best way to mess a project up.

How did America become great in the first place? People placed flags around an area and claimed it as their own. They were free to do whatever they wanted to do with that land and expanded like no nation ever before in history. But then some politicians come taking their share they do not own nor earned and you get into civil wars like never before in human history ;D

As for today, we past a point of no return and mass extinction is very near. It’s all staged by powers we take for reality but only serve a handful of psychopats thinking they can play on global level. This is our world outside the garden of Eden. You may say we deforrested our own paradise into an industrial complex that might be very interdimensional. Explained in the Bible and personified as “Satan”.

The thing with America is that while our physical needs for the most part may be met even at the lowest setting we are still better off than most countries yet this is only temporary the human bodies needs are always temporary but the soul and the spirit is eternatl and that is what the wolrd thirsts for even without knowing it but you know this alreadyas your response to me already shows
I never know or understand why the sp[irit speaks certain things to me I just follow the flow and speak and take in what he tells me to and I think you understand what I am talking about I feel we have the same spirit
Things are coming that the worls doesn't understand or recognize not just because they don't know scripture but because even those who claim to be his don't know him or his or spirit nor his voice

 

[Fundamental]

The thing with America is that while our physical needs for the most part may be met even at the lowest setting we are still better off than most countries yet this is only temporary the human bodies needs are always temporary but the soul and the spirit is eternatl and that is what the wolrd thirsts for even without knowing it but you know this alreadyas your response to me already shows
I never know or understand why the sp[irit speaks certain things to me I just follow the flow and speak and take in what he tells me to and I think you understand what I am talking about I feel we have the same spirit
Things are coming that the worls doesn't understand or recognize not just because they don't know scripture but because even those who claim to be his don't know him or his or spirit nor his voice

Exactly. When the west endures a crisis; we manage, unite and prioritise. Yet we are divided and this has grown into the great deception. We should take precautions not to lose what we have in this division and deception.
When we start seeing things through faith and translate through the Holy Spirit; most get a different story then we are taught from birth on. Even for many being raised “christian”. I don’t refer to myself as a christian, I try to be christian which is the most difficult thing in life but also the most rewarding. Christ is the only way. I can see things so clear yet many would never fully grasp what I’m trying to tell them in real life. They look at me as if I’m speaking Chinese. Some of them sum up any situation by watching 30 minuts of news a day and hearing men in suit on TV selling smooth talks to conduct policy.
For me, I don’t watch the news but dissect and pray. It’s being repeated on TV over and over again for a reason. It is conditioning humanity into a new system and globalism on mass surveillance. TV is the dictation of “elite leaders that can not be replaced” witholding true free press and cover up their own corruptions.

Before I turned my eyes on Jesus, I got warnings from outsiders that I was brainwashed. So I made this a real subject in my lif. found out how I was not the only one but everyone around me simply repeated what is been repeated on that stupid square box.
“Get real” is what they say to people really understanding their stuff. Or “that just stupid or dumb” until they are presented the facts and numbers.
These liars on TV depend on a human species that is dumb and can’t think for themselves anymore. These people appearing on our TV are minions of the devil. In Belgium they even tried to normalize “ sexthing” when “idols” cheated on their wife by sending dirty pictures to others. kids look up to these people who are being normalized on mass scale.

A person trying to walk with God is quickly surrounded by the dark side, but it’s always there. We simply get aware of it by observing it from the outside, IN Christ.

 

[Lanolin]

Back to the garden of Eden

(sorry not really into politics in this thread)

I think the garden of Eden naturally has all the things humans need.
fresh running water --- streams and rivers
shelter-- shade of trees
clothing -- actually humans didnt even need clothes as we were clothed in Gods glory and not ashamed, and our eyes were not opened in the way that saw everything as something to be lusted after
food -- all the leaves and fruits one could eat, and our bodies did not need anything else.

in some ways with the fall and eating the forbidden fruit, humans then started to need other things. its like when humans go through puberty, and get all hormonal, and start not to see things as innocent anymore. One day you are running round naked as free as a bird, with everything at your fingertips, thinking you will live forever
next thing you know you arebarefoot and pregant, with another mouth to feed and no way to feed them unless you are prepared to work really really hard and go through a lot of pain.

isnt that the human condition!

 

[Blain]

Exactly. When the west endures a crisis; we manage, unite and prioritise. Yet we are divided and this has grown into the great deception. We should take precautions not to lose what we have in this division and deception.
When we start seeing things through faith and translate through the Holy Spirit; most get a different story then we are taught from birth on. Even for many being raised “christian”. I don’t refer to myself as a christian, I try to be christian which is the most difficult thing in life but also the most rewarding. Christ is the only way. I can see things so clear yet many would never fully grasp what I’m trying to tell them in real life. They look at me as if I’m speaking Chinese. Some of them sum up any situation by watching 30 minuts of news a day and hearing men in suit on TV selling smooth talks to conduct policy.
For me, I don’t watch the news but dissect and pray. It’s being repeated on TV over and over again for a reason. It is conditioning humanity into a new system and globalism on mass surveillance. TV is the dictation of “elite leaders that can not be replaced” witholding true free press and cover up their own corruptions.

Before I turned my eyes on Jesus, I got warnings from outsiders that I was brainwashed. So I made this a real subject in my lif. found out how I was not the only one but everyone around me simply repeated what is been repeated on that stupid square box.
“Get real” is what they say to people really understanding their stuff. Or “that just stupid or dumb” until they are presented the facts and numbers.
These liars on TV depend on a human species that is dumb and can’t think for themselves anymore. These people appearing on our TV are minions of the devil. In Belgium they even tried to normalize “ sexthing” when “idols” cheated on their wife by sending dirty pictures to others. kids look up to these people who are being normalized on mass scale.

A person trying to walk with God is quickly surrounded by the dark side, but it’s always there. We simply get aware of it by observing it from the outside, IN Christ.

Yeah I tried to warn my family of the end times and the signs to pay attention to even showing them it in scripture they tried to send me to a mental hospital. And yeah conditioning and brainwashing that is exactly how the strategy is, it is much easier to control people by using this method because if you use power and authority they will rebel but the human mind works in interesting ways even how the phrase you have to say it to believe it works.
If you hear something enough the mind will eventually start to absorb it without even meaning to.

This actually is used greatly in occults and the people on the news are no different but I am fascinated by how the mind works so I did studies on it and can see the tactics being used of course tell anyone any different then they think you have lost it tell them about the end times they send you to a mental ward or try to put you on medication. The enemy is no fool he knows the best battle strategies and tactics to use, how do you hide the truth of a matter the best? Hide it in plain sight. What is the best way to sell a lie? add a sprinkle of truth. How to do win over a nation? make them believe in you distract them with false information and chaos and even if someone does see what your up to people will think their insane

 

[Fundamental]

isnt that the human condition!

It’s just our nature outside God’s nature (the garden)
I was not only into politics but reflecting on the damage caused by the fall.

Politics is a side effect of the fall. It’s thinking we can solve things without God.

 

[Fundamental]

Yeah I tried to warn my family of the end times and the signs to pay attention to even showing them it in scripture they tried to send me to a mental hospital. And yeah conditioning and brainwashing that is exactly how the strategy is, it is much easier to control people by using this method because if you use power and authority they will rebel but the human mind works in interesting ways even how the phrase you have to say it to believe it works.
If you hear something enough the mind will eventually start to absorb it without even meaning to.

This actually is used greatly in occults and the people on the news are no different but I am fascinated by how the mind works so I did studies on it and can see the tactics being used of course tell anyone any different then they think you have lost it tell them about the end times they send you to a mental ward or try to put you on medication. The enemy is no fool he knows the best battle strategies and tactics to use, how do you hide the truth of a matter the best? Hide it in plain sight. What is the best way to sell a lie? add a sprinkle of truth. How to do win over a nation? make them believe in you distract them with false information and chaos and even if someone does see what your up to people will think their insane

Yes they hide it in plane sight.
Have you seen their project MK ultra and how it is being performed on idols in the film and music industry? How they affect the mind subliminally with images and sequenced words?
How they had to change old Disney movies as they were bombaded with subliminal sexual content? Or how about Alice and wonderland in relation to occult practices?
They depend on losing our mind when exposed with truth. We are comforted with lies from birth on, no wonder truth hurts for so many. That’s why we must handle through it Him and Him alone. Not against flesh but against principalities.

 

[Lanolin]

It’s just our nature outside God’s nature (the garden)
I was not only into politics but reflecting on the damage caused by the fall.

Politics is a side effect of the fall. It’s thinking we can solve things without God.

Im into problem solving myself, and sometimes I come up with what I think are brilliant solutions but they all require Gods agency to come to fruition.


In the Bible it does say the deserts will bloom.
So Im thinking He must have hid some water or underground rivers and streams somewhere we dont know about.

 

[Blain]

Yes they hide it in plane sight.
Have you seen their project MK ultra and how it is being performed on idols in the film and music industry? How they affect the mind subliminally with images and sequenced words?
How they had to change old Disney movies as they were bombaded with subliminal sexual content? Or how about Alice and wonderland in relation to occult practices?
They depend on losing our mind when exposed with truth. We are comforted with lies from birth on, no wonder truth hurts for so many. That’s why we must handle through it Him and Him alone. Not against flesh but against principalities.

Yeah that was actually part of my studies in bible prophecy I dug through a lot of world history in my studies when I get into a study sesson I go deep and this actually caught my attention they also use one of the most powerful tools there is-music. I have even seen movies that show hidden messages in them basically mocking everyone who can't see the truth being shown to them in plain sight
For instance have you seen the matrix? That series runs deep in this stuff

 

[Fundamental]

Yeah that was actually part of my studies in bible prophecy I dug through a lot of world history in my studies when I get into a study sesson I go deep and this actually caught my attention they also use one of the most powerful tools there is-music. I have even seen movies that show hidden messages in them basically mocking everyone who can't see the truth being shown to them in plain sight
For instance have you seen the matrix? That series runs deep in this stuff

They did more projects then the Matrix alone. They say it’s due to their comic background, but I think they channeled way more through then they are aware of.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wachowskis

Or how about the classic “they live”?
What we take for reality is just a fabricated lie to maintain law and order.

 

[Lanolin]

I think ppl watch too many movies, and most movies dont follow the book. But you have to have read the book first to know this.

for example, I was watching The secret Garden, which has been filmed many times before. Ive read the book by Frances Hodgson Burnett. One of my favourite stories. But in this new version, I was so disappointed as it didnt follow the book.

caution SPOILERS

In the movie Mary had a dog...there was NO dog in the book
In the movie Mary doesnt do any gardening whatsoever...in the book, the main point of it is Mary asks for a bit of earth and does gardening, thats how she gets back to health with her invalid cousin
In the movie, misthelwaite mannor catches fire and burns and Mary saves her uncle...did not even happen in the book!
in the movie its spring all the time...in the book its actually winter that turns into spring which they never had in India which is why in part Mary thinks the garden is magic

Im like what is this...total ruin and missing the point of a wonderful story.

 

[Blain]

I think ppl watch too many movies, and most movies dont follow the book. But you have to have read the book first to know this.

for example, I was watching The secret Garden, which has been filmed many times before. Ive read the book by Frances Hodgson Burnett. One of my favourite stories. But in this new version, I was so disappointed as it didnt follow the book.

caution SPOILERS

In the movie Mary had a dog...there was NO dog in the book
In the movie Mary doesnt do any gardening whatsoever...in the book, the main point of it is Mary asks for a bit of earth and does gardening, thats how she gets back to health with her invalid cousin
In the movie, misthelwaite mannor catches fire and burns and Mary saves her uncle...did not even happen in the book!
in the movie its spring all the time...in the book its actually winter that turns into spring which they never had in India which is why in part Mary thinks the garden is magic

Im like what is this...total ruin and missing the point of a wonderful story.

I saw the secret garden when I was really young never got to read the book but it is really annoying when they make movies based off of books and then just completely butcher them by leaving certain things or changing the story it annoys a lot of people really

 

[Lanolin]

I saw the secret garden when I was really young never got to read the book but it is really annoying when they make movies based off of books and then just completely butcher them by leaving certain things or changing the story it annoys a lot of people really

I wonder how many people watch movies about the Bible and just accept the movie versions of Jesus and never actually read the book lol

AlthougH you think of sermons in church being truncated soundbites of whats actually in the Bible. Sometimes preachers fall into the trap of presenting THEIR version of Jesus, and their views of God instead of what is actually written in the Bible, which is available for anyone to read, not just ordained ministers. I think a lot is left out.

I found that with some bible lessons for children they would do this, even shorten memory verses so they children werent learning the actual real bible verses.

 

[Blain]

I wonder how many people watch movies about the Bible and just accept the movie versions of Jesus and never actually read the book lol

AlthougH you think of sermons in church being truncated soundbites of whats actually in the Bible. Sometimes preachers fall into the trap of presenting THEIR version of Jesus, and their views of God instead of what is actually written in the Bible, which is available for anyone to read, not just ordained ministers. I think a lot is left out.

I found that with some bible lessons for children they would do this, even shorten memory verses so they children werent learning the actual real bible verses.

I do enjoy movies and certain t.v. shows there was actually a thing called the bible series I particularly enjoyed they only made four of them though but you know books are dying out everyone tends to read on their phones or tablets ect. but I prefer the good old fashioned feeling of holding the actual book in my hand especially the bible though until my eyes are fully healed that is not an easy task so I have a bible downloaded on my pc where I make the font bigger and so hard on my eyes.

And yeah I know what you mean with the sermons as well as children classes they tried to scare me and my class mates when I was little into salvation with their version of hell good deeds and heaven ect. some kids even cried it sickens me how people do this especially to little kids like that

 

[Lanolin]

I do enjoy movies and certain t.v. shows there was actually a thing called the bible series I particularly enjoyed they only made four of them though but you know books are dying out everyone tends to read on their phones or tablets ect. but I prefer the good old fashioned feeling of holding the actual book in my hand especially the bible though until my eyes are fully healed that is not an easy task so I have a bible downloaded on my pc where I make the font bigger and so hard on my eyes.

And yeah I know what you mean with the sermons as well as children classes they tried to scare me and my class mates when I was little into salvation with their version of hell good deeds and heaven ect. some kids even cried it sickens me how people do this especially to little kids like that

You can get large print bibles and also audio bibles but audio bibles arent so easy to study you'd have to listen to the whole thing.
I often thought that some publishers dont make it easy for some Bibles to read like the print is very small and fine, the pages are tissue thin, or they insert so many commentaries and footnotes and cross references that its more someone elses opinions than actual scripture.

Ive still yet to see some really good illustrated books of the Bible that arent too babyish. Imagine if Disney made a movie of the Bible. Would they do it better than Dreamworks?

 

[Blain]

You can get large print bibles and also audio bibles but audio bibles arent so easy to study you'd have to listen to the whole thing.
I often thought that some publishers dont make it easy for some Bibles to read like the print is very small and fine, the pages are tissue thin, or they insert so many commentaries and footnotes and cross references that its more someone elses opinions than actual scripture.

Ive still yet to see some really good illustrated books of the Bible that arent too babyish. Imagine if Disney made a movie of the Bible. Would they do it better than Dreamworks?

Yeah I might get a large print bible, I do enjoy the audio bible too it has a different kind of feel listening and just saoking in the words being spoken than reading in fact some methods of memory is listening instead of reading because the way the brain functions dependsa on how well you take information in some people are study people with reading and some learn and memorize by hearing and listening it just depends on the person

And yeah I agree all those footnotes and cross references are just not needed it complicates things but oh man I hope disney never tries to make movie about the bible if there is one thing I know about disney is that they are just in it for the cash grab it would likely be pretty bad

 

[Lanolin]

yea Disney is a bit suss, but I was thinking could God do what we think is the impossible with the animation studio and turn it around.

I mean In the Garden of Eden, since nobody seems to believe it can be recreated on earth for real, maybe it can be drawn or cgied. The snake was talking in the Bible after all...

The only thing wrong with Disney is we dont know what it does with their massive profits. They dont go on to benefit children do they. If it was a Christian animated art studio the movies would ve free to watch, and everyone would get tickets to Gods Kingdom on earth not disneyland.