Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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After that ye are known of God. This is in time, not before the foundation of the world.
Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
καθώς means as, just as, for, etc. it’s pretty much equivelance to the word “because”.
According to means “ in conformity”. In accordance with. The blessings in Christ are in accordance with the fact that He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world.
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He thinks the king jimmy is perfect. Another one of his issues
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I know Eph 1. 4 doesn't say ' Chosen in Him 'to be saved 'before the Foundation of the world . I'm trying to enquire what you think it is saying ? Literally every usage of the terms Chosen , Election, elect always , always, always and like I said from the beginning ( not the beginning of time lol ) from the beginning of our conversation..It always refers to service and purpose . Every time . in the context . in the greek and in English ..Thats what it means . Its NEVER about salvation. Now you can all vauge on me about" all the bible is about salvation brother " . I got it . But their is no salvation in any sense about us before we existed . This is gnosctism. Gnostics taught the flesh is evil and totally depraved . This is where it all comes back to . Augustine creates the idea about God 'electing 'those before they existed . In order to refute pelagius in the forth century . Augustines ' total inability from birth starts with him and has influenced theology ever since . including the one you are trying to defend. The Arminain flavour of it .
Because your thinking in terms of Doctrines rather than biblical usage of the words .
You are using step by step usage of doctrines that are ' Arminianism ' . I cant unsee it . You keep claiming that its just your own findings but each time your arguments are word for word Arminain . Whilst Arminsim isn't monolithic like Calvinism your still defending the majority of the Arminian position ..Which by my reckoning is just soft Calvinism.
Knowing something ahead of time is foreknowledge...before God predestines me, He must first have prior knowledge of me as a son. That's foreknowledge!
YES! The spiritual blessings are in accordance to what God has chosen before the foundation of the world. Are those blessing are chosen us in Christ. We are not chosen, but what is found in Christ.
///Scripture does not say chosen and predestinated after you believe. Nowhere///
6To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
Jesus Christ was to be the medium through which all blessings would be dispensed (vs. 10), and we can only be “accepted in the beloved” (vs. 6). You were not “in the beloved” before Genesis 1:1, nor was anyone else. You were not “in Christ” before Genesis 1:1, nor was anyone else. Christ had no “Body” until Acts 2 into which you could enter (John 17:23); therefore, the entire faulty system where it deals with election—is a nullity.
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