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J-T

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lol is this a typo?

that links to the 'would you take a covid vaccine' thread in the conspiracy section.

hardly seems like the appropriate place for misguided personal attacks...? :unsure:
Try examining the information on pages 24-28.
 

Dino246

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One quick read through this thread tells me where the problem is. Who comes in and fights with everyone present? Who attacks people merely for the nicknames they choose? Who dismisses everything that doesn't agree with his narrow view of things?

Titus 3:10.

@J-T, this is your first warning.
 

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yes

whoever goes looking for evil, will surely find it -- it may become all they are able to see.
Absolutely. For example: And that site master is very serious, this is not satire. And no they're not a Satanist. They're a Christian.
5 Ways Christians Worship and Glorify Satan



Part 1 of a 2 Part Post to include search results:

Satan is very crafty, including using people to subtlely sow discord and division while tickling the ears of the simple and the unlearned.

I have been meaning to ask, but what is the inspiration behind your screen name, which is the name of a specific type of witch, to make it your choice to use in a Christian Forum? Are you a witch working your magic?

I listed but a few links with descriptions. There are many more. Could the sword weilding of a soul weaver have anything to do with martial arts?

http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/soul-weaver
"Soul weavers focus on controlling the powers of life and death. While they tend to make townsfolk a bit nervous - especially if the shambling horde of undead follows them into town - those who face great danger tend to appreciate having such a powerful ally at their side.
Role: Soul Weavers are usually either masters of healing or masters of many small minions, though sometimes they can be masters of both at once."

https://identityv.gamepedia.com/Violetta
"Violetta or "Soul Weaver" is one of 18 Hunters currently featured in Identity V."
About Alias: Soul Weaver
Gender: Female
Career: Freak Show Performer

https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ul...mancer-ascendancy-bandits-and-pantheon-powers

"Witch. Necromancer. Ultimate Raise Spectres Necromancer Build ... up a Convocation gem makes it a little smoother but your Spectres especially will still be fairly vulnerable until the Soul Weaver and Commander of Darkness keystones on your Necromancer Ascendancy."

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Soul_Weaver_(3.5e_Class)

Making a Soul Weaver
“ You want to know the secret to Soul Weaving? Look at your shadow. See how it is but a reflection of what you are, but nothing like you at all. Then look at yourself. You see your imperfections, your...needs. The moment you see that you are but a reflection of something else, something greater, and you see how that something is you, but not really you, and when you see that, and wish to be that...well, then you'll know the secret. ” —Olyndyr Yorr, Soul Weaver

Soul Weavers tend towards the solitary lifestyle and rarely integrate themselves into regular society. The only people a Soul Weaver would enjoy the company of are other Soul Weavers. However, when they do decide to join a group of individuals, they tend to be less hostile to those of magic, due mainly to the fact that Soul Weavers possess a certain interest in the arcane and realising one's inner potential and people of magic, such as Wizards, Clerics and Sorcerers especially, also share this interest. However, Soul Weavers are not at terms with non-magic people as Soul Weavers often see them as barbaric, crude, and in some cases, beneath them.
Abilities: Charisma is the most important attribute for a Soul Weaver. It determines a Soul Weaver's inner power and the success of their Soul Weaver abilities. Dexterity is also very important as Soul Weavers possess various forms of evasive abilities as well. Strength is also somewhat important as a last resort as even a Soul Weaver's power has it's limits and they must sometimes resort to more basic forms of combat.
Races: Humans most commonly walk the path of Soul Weaving due to the inner nature of man to discover, search and to become great. The practice of Soul Weaving is frowned upon by many races, as they often see Soul Weavers as evil, unnatural beings. Races like this include Elves, Gnomes and Halflings and Soul Weavers belonging to these races often face exile, and even execution, though this does not stop the odd few from becoming Soul Weavers. Dwarves and Half-Orcs rarely become Soul Weavers as they often lack the discipline and self worth to walk the path of the Soul Weaver.
Alignment: The practice of Soul Weaving, though heavily frowned upon, is not unlawful. Therefore a Soul Weaver can be of any alignment, though more often than not, tend towards neutrality.
Starting Gold: 2d4x10 gp
Starting Age: A special feature of the Soul Weaver is slowed ageing, caused by the constant replenishment of a Soul Weaver's life force. This results in Soul Weavers ageing at 1 third the rate that their race would normally age at. Therefore, recommended starting age is Moderate multiplied by 3.

Table: The Soul Weaver
Class Features
All of the following are class features of the Soul Weaver.
Weapon and Armour Proficiency: Soul Weavers are proficient with all simple and martial weapons but are not proficient with any shields or armours, except gauntlets.
Sneak Attack: If a Soul Weaver can catch an opponent when they are unable to defend themselves effectively from their attack, they can strike a vital spot for extra damage. The Soul Weaver’s attack deals extra damage any time their target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the Soul Weaver flanks their target. This extra damage is 1d6 at 1st level, and it increases by 1d6 every four Soul Weaver levels thereafter. Should the Soul Weaver score a critical hit with a sneak attack, this extra damage is not multiplied. Ranged attacks can count as sneak attacks only if the target is within 30 feet. With a sap (blackjack) or an unarmed strike, a Soul Weaver can make a sneak attack that deals nonlethal damage instead of lethal damage. They cannot use a weapon that deals lethal damage to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack, not even with the usual –4 penalty. A Soul Weaver can sneak attack only living creatures with discernible anatomies—undead, constructs, oozes, plants, and incorporeal creatures lack vital areas to attack. Any creature that is immune to critical hits is not vulnerable to sneak attacks. The Soul Weaver must be able to see the target well enough to pick out a vital spot and must be able to reach such a spot. A Soul Weaver cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment or striking the limbs of a creature whose vitals are beyond reach.
Evasion (Ex): At 4th level and higher, a Soul Weaver can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If they makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, they instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the Soul Weaver is not wearing armour. A helpless Soul Weaver does not gain the benefit of evasion.
Uncanny Dodge (Ex): Starting at 10th level, a Soul Weaver can react to danger before their senses would normally allow them to do so. They retain their Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) even if they are caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, they still lose their Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized.
Improved Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A Soul Weaver of 16th level or higher can no longer be flanked. This defense denies another Soul Weaver or Rogue the ability to sneak attack the character by flanking them, unless the attacker has at least four more Rogue OR Soul Weaver levels than the target does.
Soul Splits: The source of a Soul Weaver's power is their inner ability to separate fractions of their soul, which can be channeled into raw soul power which can be "weaved" into abilities. A Soul Weaver, over time, learns to separate their soul in more efficient ways, granting them more Soul Splits as they become better Soul Weavers. However, A Soul Weaver must always be careful when splitting their soul, as consuming all of a Soul Weaver's Soul Splits causes their soul to fall apart and scatter into thousands of shards of soul across the ether of existence as too much soul has been consumed. When this happens, it is known as a "Soul Shattering". When this happens, the Soul Weaver dies and, as their soul is now scattered across all of existence, they cannot be revived by resurrection spells or the like. The only thing that can bring back a Soul Shattered Soul Weaver to life is the work of a Master Soul Weaver. This all means that a Soul Weaver must always have 1 Soul Split in reserve at all times, or risk Soul Shattering. A Soul Weaver also adds their Charisma bonus to their Soul Splits per day according to level.
Soul Weaving Abilities: The power generated from a Soul Split can be "weaved" into a wide array of abilities. All Soul Weaving abilities are listed below with description, difficulty and Soul Split cost.
Way to insult our sister/brother Soulweaver. :rolleyes: J-T. Just Trollin? Because a this stage I don't think you're serious. I think you're trolling.
You know nothing of martial arts.
What's next on your hit list? Meditation?
 

J-T

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One quick read through this thread tells me where the problem is. Who comes in and fights with everyone present? Who attacks people merely for the nicknames they choose? Who dismisses everything that doesn't agree with his narrow view of things?

Titus 3:10.

@J-T, this is your first warning.
Since it is already established that you buddy up with false prophets, try going through my posts, using cited sources, and see if you can successfully debunk them. Then, since you are the one that stated in an earlier post that there is a connection between Martial Arts & Yoga, post some cited information on that as well.
 

J-T

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Absolutely. For example: And that site master is very serious, this is not satire. And no they're not a Satanist. They're a Christian.
5 Ways Christians Worship and Glorify Satan



Way to insult our sister/brother Soulweaver. :rolleyes: J-T. Just Trollin? Because a this stage I don't think you're serious. I think you're trolling.
You know nothing of martial arts.
What's next on your hit list? Meditation?
We both know that you are Catholic, and we both know that Roman Catholism is not Christian, but instead is Luciferienism, so let's not pretend that you have one up'd a Christian here. If you want to start a thread to start an indepth discussion and breakdown of @SoulWeaver's blog, I will be more than glad to do my part in exposing the heretical errors with cited resources. You have not provided anything here that adds to the discussion, and most certainly have not provided any sourced information to refute or debunk my posts.
 

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Just wanted to put this first for context. That readers when looking over the links and descriptions below be advised ahead of time that those links are speaking of and to role playing gaming sites! :LOL:
Satan is crafty! Yes, Ms.Pac Man was a demon with a big mouth and huge appetite for ghosts. Beware!

Part 1 of a 2 Part Post to include search results:

Satan is very crafty, including using people to subtlely sow discord and division while tickling the ears of the simple and the unlearned.

I have been meaning to ask, but what is the inspiration behind your screen name, which is the name of a specific type of witch, to make it your choice to use in a Christian Forum? Are you a witch working your magic?

I listed but a few links with descriptions. There are many more. Could the sword weilding of a soul weaver have anything to do with martial arts?

http://spheresofpower.wikidot.com/soul-weaver
"Soul weavers focus on controlling the powers of life and death. While they tend to make townsfolk a bit nervous - especially if the shambling horde of undead follows them into town - those who face great danger tend to appreciate having such a powerful ally at their side.
Role: Soul Weavers are usually either masters of healing or masters of many small minions, though sometimes they can be masters of both at once."

https://identityv.gamepedia.com/Violetta
"Violetta or "Soul Weaver" is one of 18 Hunters currently featured in Identity V."
About Alias: Soul Weaver
Gender: Female
Career: Freak Show Performer

https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ul...mancer-ascendancy-bandits-and-pantheon-powers

"Witch. Necromancer. Ultimate Raise Spectres Necromancer Build ... up a Convocation gem makes it a little smoother but your Spectres especially will still be fairly vulnerable until the Soul Weaver and Commander of Darkness keystones on your Necromancer Ascendancy."

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Soul_Weaver_(3.5e_Class)

Making a Soul Weaver
“ You want to know the secret to Soul Weaving? Look at your shadow. See how it is but a reflection of what you are, but nothing like you at all. Then look at yourself. You see your imperfections, your...needs. The moment you see that you are but a reflection of something else, something greater, and you see how that something is you, but not really you, and when you see that, and wish to be that...well, then you'll know the secret. ” —Olyndyr Yorr, Soul Weaver

Soul Weavers tend towards the solitary lifestyle and rarely integrate themselves into regular society. The only people a Soul Weaver would enjoy the company of are other Soul Weavers. However, when they do decide to join a group of individuals, they tend to be less hostile to those of magic, due mainly to the fact that Soul Weavers possess a certain interest in the arcane and realising one's inner potential and people of magic, such as Wizards, Clerics and Sorcerers especially, also share this interest. However, Soul Weavers are not at terms with non-magic people as Soul Weavers often see them as barbaric, crude, and in some cases, beneath them.
Abilities: Charisma is the most important attribute for a Soul Weaver. It determines a Soul Weaver's inner power and the success of their Soul Weaver abilities. Dexterity is also very important as Soul Weavers possess various forms of evasive abilities as well. Strength is also somewhat important as a last resort as even a Soul Weaver's power has it's limits and they must sometimes resort to more basic forms of combat.
Races: Humans most commonly walk the path of Soul Weaving due to the inner nature of man to discover, search and to become great. The practice of Soul Weaving is frowned upon by many races, as they often see Soul Weavers as evil, unnatural beings. Races like this include Elves, Gnomes and Halflings and Soul Weavers belonging to these races often face exile, and even execution, though this does not stop the odd few from becoming Soul Weavers. Dwarves and Half-Orcs rarely become Soul Weavers as they often lack the discipline and self worth to walk the path of the Soul Weaver.
Alignment: The practice of Soul Weaving, though heavily frowned upon, is not unlawful. Therefore a Soul Weaver can be of any alignment, though more often than not, tend towards neutrality.
Starting Gold: 2d4x10 gp
Starting Age: A special feature of the Soul Weaver is slowed ageing, caused by the constant replenishment of a Soul Weaver's life force. This results in Soul Weavers ageing at 1 third the rate that their race would normally age at. Therefore, recommended starting age is Moderate multiplied by 3.

Table: The Soul Weaver
Class Features
All of the following are class features of the Soul Weaver.
Weapon and Armour Proficiency: Soul Weavers are proficient with all simple and martial weapons but are not proficient with any shields or armours, except gauntlets.
Sneak Attack: If a Soul Weaver can catch an opponent when they are unable to defend themselves effectively from their attack, they can strike a vital spot for extra damage. The Soul Weaver’s attack deals extra damage any time their target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not), or when the Soul Weaver flanks their target. This extra damage is 1d6 at 1st level, and it increases by 1d6 every four Soul Weaver levels thereafter. Should the Soul Weaver score a critical hit with a sneak attack, this extra damage is not multiplied. Ranged attacks can count as sneak attacks only if the target is within 30 feet. With a sap (blackjack) or an unarmed strike, a Soul Weaver can make a sneak attack that deals nonlethal damage instead of lethal damage. They cannot use a weapon that deals lethal damage to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack, not even with the usual –4 penalty. A Soul Weaver can sneak attack only living creatures with discernible anatomies—undead, constructs, oozes, plants, and incorporeal creatures lack vital areas to attack. Any creature that is immune to critical hits is not vulnerable to sneak attacks. The Soul Weaver must be able to see the target well enough to pick out a vital spot and must be able to reach such a spot. A Soul Weaver cannot sneak attack while striking a creature with concealment or striking the limbs of a creature whose vitals are beyond reach.
Evasion (Ex): At 4th level and higher, a Soul Weaver can avoid even magical and unusual attacks with great agility. If they makes a successful Reflex saving throw against an attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save, they instead takes no damage. Evasion can be used only if the Soul Weaver is not wearing armour. A helpless Soul Weaver does not gain the benefit of evasion.
Uncanny Dodge (Ex): Starting at 10th level, a Soul Weaver can react to danger before their senses would normally allow them to do so. They retain their Dexterity bonus to AC (if any) even if they are caught flat-footed or struck by an invisible attacker. However, they still lose their Dexterity bonus to AC if immobilized.
Improved Uncanny Dodge (Ex): A Soul Weaver of 16th level or higher can no longer be flanked. This defense denies another Soul Weaver or Rogue the ability to sneak attack the character by flanking them, unless the attacker has at least four more Rogue OR Soul Weaver levels than the target does.
Soul Splits: The source of a Soul Weaver's power is their inner ability to separate fractions of their soul, which can be channeled into raw soul power which can be "weaved" into abilities. A Soul Weaver, over time, learns to separate their soul in more efficient ways, granting them more Soul Splits as they become better Soul Weavers. However, A Soul Weaver must always be careful when splitting their soul, as consuming all of a Soul Weaver's Soul Splits causes their soul to fall apart and scatter into thousands of shards of soul across the ether of existence as too much soul has been consumed. When this happens, it is known as a "Soul Shattering". When this happens, the Soul Weaver dies and, as their soul is now scattered across all of existence, they cannot be revived by resurrection spells or the like. The only thing that can bring back a Soul Shattered Soul Weaver to life is the work of a Master Soul Weaver. This all means that a Soul Weaver must always have 1 Soul Split in reserve at all times, or risk Soul Shattering. A Soul Weaver also adds their Charisma bonus to their Soul Splits per day according to level.
Soul Weaving Abilities: The power generated from a Soul Split can be "weaved" into a wide array of abilities. All Soul Weaving abilities are listed below with description, difficulty and Soul Split cost.
 

soggykitten

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We both know that you are Catholic, and we both know that Roman Catholism is not Christian, but instead is Luciferienism, so let's not pretend that you have one up'd a Christian here. If you want to start a thread to start an indepth discussion and breakdown of @SoulWeaver's blog, I will be more than glad to do my part in exposing the heretical errors with cited resources. You have not provided anything here that adds to the discussion, and most certainly have not provided any sourced information to refute or debunk my posts.
I'm not Catholic.

I've not one up'd a Christian here. I've exposed someone who links to role playing gaming sites.
What is your character name in D&D ? Dungeon and Dragons. Hmm?

BUSTED! :LOL:
 

Dino246

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Since it is already established that you buddy up with false prophets, try going through my posts, using cited sources, and see if you can successfully debunk them.
Your continued slander is noted. SarahUmbreon was far too kind.
 

J-T

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Just wanted to put this first for context. That readers when looking over the links and descriptions below be advised ahead of time that those links are speaking of and to role playing gaming sites! :LOL:
Satan is crafty! Yes, Ms.Pac Man was a demon with a big mouth and huge appetite for ghosts. Beware!
Are you bright enough to realize that the name "Soul Weaver" originates only with the Occult, including their game of Dungeons and Dragons, and that it, along with other Occult games define the name as a Witch? Try looking for any other definition that proves otherwise, and then you might have something to write home and brag about. Until then, you are not helping anyone, but instead making the matter worse.
 

J-T

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Your continued slander is noted. SarahUmbreon was far too kind.
I can prove that I did not slander you. You do buddy up with false prophets, such as you did with the Seventh Day Adventist & Charismatic, even agreeing with them. Now, go ahead and see if you can debunk any of my posts on this thread.
 

soggykitten

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Are you bright enough to realize that the name "Soul Weaver" originates only with the Occult, including their game of Dungeons and Dragons, and that it, along with other Occult games define the name as a Witch? Try looking for any other definition that proves otherwise, and then you might have something to write home and brag about. Until then, you are not helping anyone, but instead making the matter worse.
Ah, personal attack mode level 1. How quaint.
I'm intelligent enough to know RPG's are fiction as are the characters within them.
If you take them seriously, you are seriously in need of mental health counseling. And I mean that with all sincerity.


Are you a follower of Jesusissavior.com & Jesusisprecious.com? The websites of David J. Stewart?
 

posthuman

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Try examining the information on pages 24-28.
hmm.. well i see you spending an awful lot of time and energy creeping on the Rothchilds last month, i notice you don't know how to take a screenshot on your phone ((hold the power button if it's an android)), but i don't see anything about 'outing' my sister as a witch or exploring the theology & teachings of Mssr. Eckhart in particular or the mystical understandings of the early church fathers in general, as you advertised, and i don't see a justification as to why a conspiracy thread about covid vaccines is the appropriate setting. . ?


so i'm still thinking, typo?


but we still have a number of more fundamental misunderstandings & errors on your part in this thread to deal with. here are some that are actually relevant to the thread topic:

  • martial arts are not religions, they are systems of techniques for physical combat & self-defense
  • not all martial arts are Chinese
  • yoga isn't Chinese
  • no martial arts originated in the Shaolin temples; they were brought there from outside sources, independent of religion, in order to be preserved because it was (is) a center of learning expected to persist even while secular governments rose and fell
  • tai chi by your own source material does not have a religious origin nor does it have a religious basis
  • yoga is not a martial art and isn't associated with any martial art
  • neither Jimmy Swaggart nor his wife were martial-arts instructors
  • seventh-day-adventism isn't a martial art and has no association whatsoever with any martial art
  • martial activity is not condemned in the scripture; in fact it's lauded in the OT and used as a spiritual example for us in the NT
  • in at least 3 places in scripture David explicitly describes God Himself as personally imparting martial skill
    • 2 Samuel 22:35, Psalm 18:34, Psalm 144:1
i'm sure there's more but let's try and get these dealt with first, OK?

then there's the ones that are completely extraneous to the thread topic:

  • Christian mysticism is not equivalent to gnosticism
  • free-masonry has no relation to the mystical aspects of the beliefs of the desert fathers and other early Christian theologians
  • using the philosophical beliefs of a culture to find common ground upon which to base evangelism is not tantamount to teaching pantheism or universalism, nor is recognizing that the Light of the Truth is manifest all over the world, such that 'men are without excuse'
  • 4 pages of screenshots of someone named Rothchild's facebook friends list doesn't have anything to do with Meister Eckhart's beliefs
  • a 'covid vaccination conspiracy' thread isn't an appropriate place to discuss the metaphysical implications of scripture and a particular 14th century theologian's musings on them
  • the Koran is not gnosticism
  • you weren't getting taught the gospel in public school when you were a kid, either.
  • . . .
  • oh man there's just way too many off-topic rants to even begin to deal with :p
 

J-T

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Ah, personal attack mode level 1. How quaint.
I'm intelligent enough to know RPG's are fiction as are the characters within them.
If you take them seriously, you are seriously in need of mental health counseling. And I mean that with all sincerity.

Are you a follower of Jesusissavior.com & Jesusisprecious.com? The websites of David J. Stewart?
Enough with the chitter chatter. You have failed to produce one shred of evidence that proves me wrong. The last time someone propagated that Christians were in need of "mental health counseling", it was soon proven that indivdual was a lying deceiver. Aside from each of your attacks against me, I am ready to proceed with sharing more information that exposes the likes of "Meister Eckhart", as well as the Satanic practices of Martial Arts and Yoga. Can you at least pretend to try to bring something to the table other than 3rd grade level insults that includes slandering other Christians?
 

Dino246

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I can prove that I did not slander you. You do buddy up with false prophets, such as you did with the Seventh Day Adventist & Charismatic, even agreeing with them. Now, go ahead and see if you can debunk any of my posts on this thread.
More slander... and false testimony. Keep it up. See how many more you can add in one day.

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
 

J-T

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hmm.. well i see you spending an awful lot of time and energy creeping on the Rothchilds last month, i notice you don't know how to take a screenshot on your phone ((hold the power button if it's an android)), but i don't see anything about 'outing' my sister as a witch or exploring the theology & teachings of Mssr. Eckhart in particular or the mystical understandings of the early church fathers in general, as you advertised, and i don't see a justification as to why a conspiracy thread about covid vaccines is the appropriate setting. . ?


so i'm still thinking, typo?

but we still have a number of more fundamental misunderstandings & errors on your part in this thread to deal with. here are some that are actually relevant to the thread topic:

  • martial arts are not religions, they are systems of techniques for physical combat & self-defense
  • not all martial arts are Chinese
  • yoga isn't Chinese
  • no martial arts originated in the Shaolin temples; they were brought there from outside sources, independent of religion, in order to be preserved because it was (is) a center of learning expected to persist even while secular governments rose and fell
  • tai chi by your own source material does not have a religious origin nor does it have a religious basis
  • yoga is not a martial art and isn't associated with any martial art
  • neither Jimmy Swaggart nor his wife were martial-arts instructors
  • seventh-day-adventism isn't a martial art and has no association whatsoever with any martial art
  • martial activity is not condemned in the scripture; in fact it's lauded in the OT and used as a spiritual example for us in the NT
  • in at least 3 places in scripture David explicitly describes God Himself as personally imparting martial skill
    • 2 Samuel 22:35, Psalm 18:34, Psalm 144:1
i'm sure there's more but let's try and get these dealt with first, OK?

then there's the ones that are completely extraneous to the thread topic:
  • Christian mysticism is not equivalent to gnosticism
  • free-masonry has no relation to the mystical aspects of the beliefs of the desert fathers and other early Christian theologians
  • using the philosophical beliefs of a culture to find common ground upon which to base evangelism is not tantamount to teaching pantheism or universalism, nor is recognizing that the Light of the Truth is manifest all over the world, such that 'men are without excuse'
  • 4 pages of screenshots of someone named Rothchild's facebook friends list doesn't have anything to do with Meister Eckhart's beliefs
  • a 'covid vaccination conspiracy' thread isn't an appropriate place to discuss the metaphysical implications of scripture and a particular 14th century theologian's musings on them
  • the Koran is not gnosticism
  • you weren't getting taught the gospel in public school when you were a kid, either.
  • . . .
  • oh man there's just way too many off-topic rants to even begin to deal with :p
It's a bit late for me, and tomorrow is another day to proceed with posting more cited information to both expose Satanist "Meister Eckhart" as well as the Witch, that you say is your sister, not to mention the Satanic practices of Yoga and Martial Arts to completely debunk your posted claims. In the meantime, feel free to look at the opening post of this thread again, and consider that I have been giving Christian responses per the OP, whilst the lot of you have posted in direct opposition, defending the works of the Occult. And if you are bright enough to re-read my previous post and take a clue, I did state very clearly that more information will be added to that thread soon.
 

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You have failed to produce one shred of evidence that proves me wrong.
you yourself did:

Less romantic, but more reliably sourced, accounts of Tai Chi, date back to Chen Wangting, a 16th century Royal Guard of the Chen village in Wenxian County, Henan Province. After retiring from the army, he was drawn to the teachings of Taoism, which led him to a simple life of farming, studying and teaching martial arts."
your own source: tai chi probably originated with a man in the 15th century teaching the martial skills he developed over a lifetime of active military service. after retiring, he understandably sought a simple, peaceful life, became interested in philosophy, and saw how some of Lao Tzu's observations about balance in nature reflected & could be incorporated into fundamental principles of attack & defense.

you presumably read that, i mean, you quoted it, but you cited this as though it was evidence that this one particular form of martial arts was satanic in origin, idolatrous in practice, and equivalent to inviting demon possession. then you jumped to the conclusion that all forms of disciplined self-defense & physical combat are equivalent to pagan worship.

dude.
 

posthuman

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More slander... and false testimony. Keep it up. See how many more you can add in one day.

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.
i've only just met him today, but i get the distinct impression we are talking to a bitter & largely ignorant old man who looks for Satan under every rock, and if he happens to find a rock without a demon under it, scribbles a picture of one there himself.

i will take note to stay off his lawn lol
 

posthuman

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the works of the Occult

He teaches my hands to make war,
so that my arms can bend a bow of bronze.
(Psalm 18:34)

martial art
  1. Any of several fighting styles which contain systematized methods of training for combat, both armed and unarmed; often practiced as a sport
  2. Military skills, proficiency in military strategy, prowess in warfare.