What do you think of Martial Arts?

[J-T]

I believe the problem is: You are speaking of people who practice Martial Arts as their religion. I practice Tai Chi as a form of physical exercise, just as jogging, weight lifting, or various other exercises provide physical benefit.

If someone practices for the purpose of religious enlightenment, then I agree with your assessment. However, I would suspect that all types of physical exercise have a pagan origin. After all it was pagans who came up with the Olympics. If we go by your statements, than any who participate in or aspire to participate in the Olympics are sinning, right? This would also cascade down to Baseball, Football, Basketball, Golf, or any other Sport where physical exercise is required would it not?

Respectfully, the information that I have shared is not to injure you, but to make the call for repentance, and to move in faith toward Jesus Christ.

It is difficult, and nearly impossible to put countless hours of research into this subject into a single post, but I hit it with the hardest points possible to make you, and others aware that this is a great deception that truly is of the Devil. In my last two part posts, I cited sources to present you with the fact of it's origin, and to show you that is an antichrist "religious practice", and I have clearly stated that it, along with Yoga, are practices of divination. I also shared some insight into how the deceivers use it. If you read Ezekiel 8:16 in the King James Bible, in that passage of prophecy, there are those that have their backs turned against the LORD, as they face the east to worship the sun. That is what Yoga is about, as it originates from Ancient Egypt. It is not mere "excercise", and there will be that ultimate fulfillment during the Great Tribulation.

The LORD made His position clear, and with express warnings in Acts 15:19-29, 1Corinthians 10:20-22, 2Corinthians 6:14-18, Revelation 2:14-29, and really throughout the entirety of The Holy Bible.

I understand that you may not be fully aware of how even the Olympics is Occult themed, and that many within the Sports industries are Satanists that use the sports to distract that masses away from God. That has been made evident even many times when people would stay home on Sunday, not going to Church, just to watch the "big game", whatever it was for them. Eventually, as the vast majority of society is proven, that most have even stopped going to Church, and we know it's not all related to staying home to watch the game, but it is a major part, as with the passing of each generation, that Church attendance has great dwindled, and today, even as we discuss these issues, many Churches are being converted into Muslim Mosques, Night Clubs, Restaurants, and other things, not excluding other cults taking up residence, while other false teachers grow their Mega Churches.

We are in the midst of the great falling away from the faith, and it is because so many people have set up idols in their hearts, even being indifferent to what is written in The Holy Bible, and so we see it.

If you really want to learn and know the truth about these evils, I encourage to start with believing what is is written in The Holy Bible, and to seek The Lord about these things. I am here to be of any help that I can, and am more than willing to share proofs, and so forth, but it is up to you on how you choose to proceed from here. I have sounded the warning, and have already demonstrated that I can back up my statements, so again, it is how you respond, but in the end, you will not be able to say that you had not been properly warned. It is my hope and prayer that you will repent.

 

[Blain]

I have always loved Martial Arts and even went to China to study and learn Kung Fu. However I sometimes feel that Christians are not happy to learn this. What are your thoughts on this?
Why would it be against Christianity?

I have always wanted to be able to learn martial arts but the difference is the purpose of learning it. When you know martial arts you have strength and skills not a lot of people have and with this comes responsibility, I want to learn to not only better myself but to only use it to protect others or myself if needed but mostly others.

What you do with that strength is what decides if it is Christian or not, those who are strong have the obligation to protect those who cannot protect themselves

 

[jeremyd_99]

Defending yourself and others against malevolence or being willing to do so is an integral part of morality so martial arts are good.

 

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Respectfully, the information that I have shared is not to injure you, but to make the call for repentance, and to move in faith toward Jesus Christ.

Not to cause offence, but this reminds me of what the Apostle Paul about things being unclean for one and not for another. Read Romans 14:14. Basically, what it says is that if you believe Martial Arts is unclean (a sin), then for you it is unclean (a sin.) But, not for others who do not view it so. The lesson in this to me is not for people to burden others with what things they believe to be a sin.

 

[J-T]

Not to cause offence, but this reminds me of what the Apostle Paul about things being unclean for one and not for another. Read Romans 14:14. Basically, what it says is that if you believe Martial Arts is unclean (a sin), then for you it is unclean (a sin.) But, not for others who do not view it so. The lesson in this to me is not for people to burden others with what things they believe to be a sin.

The lesson in 1Corinthians 10 has to do with physical food per the eating of meats. A good real time example would be to go to a Chinese Restaurant where they have the image of the idol of Buddha set up. You know that they are Buddhists, so you don't ask whether or not if they sacrificed the food to Buddha for your conscience sake, and so forth. There is a distinct difference between eating food to that of taking on and learning their religious practices, of which Martial Arts is. As I have stated, just like Yoga, it is a practice of divination, of which are rituals done for the inviting in of devils for possession. The "bringing in" of those practices into Christian nations was done for the sake of deceiving whomsoever they will into learning those practices, and it was not until recent years that both were brought into Churches, though primarily Yoga. Today, there are Pope Francis, false prophet Irwin Baxter, and many others blasphemously declaring that all religions worship the "same god".

That said, television series and movies have been, just as they are now, the primary tools of the Illuminati to deceive the masses in varieties of ways. There is one episode in particular of "The Rifleman" starring Chuck Conners, where they portrayed Christians as being hateful bigots, and even had an actor playing the part of one that murdered a Japanese warrior. Christians were mocked for not wanting the Idol worshipping deceived of that antichrist religion into the U.S., and but over time, with the use of television series, and so forth brainwashing the unlearned and unstable masses, little by little, the borders were opened up to bring people of various antichrist religions into the Christian nations, including the U.S. With the series, such as Bruce Lee, and others like it, the youth were taught to look up to those characters, as they idolized them. Today, Muslims are taking over Churches in Europe, while Mosques, Hindu Temples, and so forth are built everywhere else. And, as I mentioned in another post, there is a Baptist Church in Florida that has fallen away from the faith, and has demonstrated their apostasy with the setting up of the images of idols of Buddha, Confucius, and their "false Jesus" (See 2Corinthians 11) in their entrance, with meeting schedules of times when each "religion" is taught. That's right, they have been deceived into bending the knee to Baal, just as Pope Francis, Irwin Baxter, and many others have been propagating.

I saw on another thread where someone was claiming that Muslims and Christians worship the "same god". That is absolutely false, as Allah is nothing more than the false "moon god" that it has always been. These things reflect the great falling away from the faith as the masses have and still are being deceived. I have yet to touch on the rise of Satanism into the mainstream, not withstanding the Hindus, Muslims, and so forth that have gained Government positions world-wide in Christian nations, including the U.S. But even now, the Satanists, who are behind the practices Martial Arts and Yoga have taken public positions to now have a voice in not only The United States of America, but also in Europe, as their counter-parts within the Governments are diligently working to usurp all authority away from Christians for the implimentation of Fascism, Socialism, and Communism, as the t.v. series and movies have been flooding the masses with all aspects of the Occult, including Satanism. The world is being deceived, but most are slumbering and have no clue whatsoever that the entire world is at the threshold of being taken captive. Of course, this is all in addition to the majority of nations that have redefined marriage laws, and so forth, in this modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. 1Corinthians 10:20-22 & 2Corinthians 11, along with the other passages that I have shared is the rebuke.

 

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The lesson applies to other things as well just as I stated. It was used in that instance concerning food, but the lesson applies to other things that cause differing opinions as to their "cleanliness." It teaches us that one person can differ in their beliefs about certain things regarding their being sinful or not.

That being said, as you appear to be passionate about your thoughts on Martial Arts, I do not see any room for agreement. God bless.

I believe different, simply because I do not see Martial Arts as my "god." I do not put it before my God, the Living God. It is simply a way to achieve beneficial physical exercise in a manner that befits those not able to exercise in different, more physical ways. I am referring to Tai Chi only here. It is used by many Physical Therapy Professionals to allow people to gain better motor skills and increase balance, and achieves beneficial results they would not obtain otherwise.

Agreeing to disagree. Just be careful about telling others that you are trying to save them from damnation or some such, when you talk with them. That is not within your power, it rests completely with God Himself.

 

[J-T]

The lesson applies to other things as well just as I stated. It was used in that instance concerning food, but the lesson applies to other things that cause differing opinions as to their "cleanliness." It teaches us that one person can differ in their beliefs about certain things regarding their being sinful or not.

That being said, as you appear to be passionate about your thoughts on Martial Arts, I do not see any room for agreement. God bless.

I believe different, simply because I do not see Martial Arts as my "god." I do not put it before my God, the Living God. It is simply a way to achieve beneficial physical exercise in a manner that befits those not able to exercise in different, more physical ways. I am referring to Tai Chi only here. It is used by many Physical Therapy Professionals to allow people to gain better motor skills and increase balance, and achieves beneficial results they would not obtain otherwise.

Agreeing to disagree. Just be careful about telling others that you are trying to save them from damnation or some such, when you talk with them. That is not within your power, it rests completely with God Himself.

You stated in a previous post that you had never seen anything that shows that martial arts is of the Devil. In repsonse, I shared outside information via the sourced sites to show the origin of martial arts, and that is religious practice of the worship of the dead (ancestors) and "spirits". Martial Arts is something that is taught by indoctrination. From the word "indoctrination" come the word "doctrine". The ancient religion of Taoism, just like the ancient religion of the Mayans, as well as the Egyptians, involved the use of images of idols in their "worship", just as those of Occult religions still do today.

Nowhere in The Holy Bible are Believers taught to "agree to disagree". When the LORD used the Prophets, such as Jeremiah, Isaiah, Elijah, Daniel, and others, at no time did they say to the people that they were sent to speak to, "I agree to disagree". When The Lord Jesus Christ spoke to the Pharisees, He did not say "I agree to disagree".

A person is either enduring sound Biblical Doctrine, or is abiding in doctrines of devils, which also comes from wresting or perverting the scriptures to justify undgodly deeds, and that includes the practices of Yoga and Martial Arts under the guise of mere "exercise".

Over time, as time permits, I will be expounding upon this much more, as I had outlined in Post #82 of this thread >> HERE << and you are more than welcome to follow along. Martial Arts and Yoga are just two of many doctrines of devils that many have and are giving heed to.

1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2Ti 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

You stated in a previous post that you had never seen anything that shows that martial arts is of the Devil. In repsonse, I shared outside information via the sourced sites to show the origin of martial arts, and that is religious practice of the worship of the dead (ancestors) and "spirits". Martial Arts is something that is taught by indoctrination. From the word "indoctrination" come the word "doctrine". The ancient religion of Taoism, just like the ancient religion of the Mayans, as well as the Egyptians, involved the use of images of idols in their "worship", just as those of Occult religions still do today.

Nowhere in The Holy Bible are Believers taught to "agree to disagree". When the LORD used the Prophets, such as Jeremiah, Isaiah, Elijah, Daniel, and others, at no time did they say to the people that they were sent to speak to, "I agree to disagree". When The Lord Jesus Christ spoke to the Pharisees, He did not say "I agree to disagree".

A person is either enduring sound Biblical Doctrine, or is abiding in doctrines of devils, which also comes from wresting or perverting the scriptures to justify undgodly deeds, and that includes the practices of Yoga and Martial Arts under the guise of mere "exercise".

Over time, as time permits, I will be expounding upon this much more, as I had outlined in Post #82 of this thread >> HERE << and you are more than welcome to follow along. Martial Arts and Yoga are just two of many doctrines of devils that many have and are giving heed to.

1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

2Ti 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

So in other words, other opinions and how much they made it clear they are not doing evil don't matter, good to know!

I'll make sure to stay away from you, thanks ^_^

Also, you're probably fun at political parties, you have to have some "peaceful disagreements" to be able to debate well, just yelling at telling the other side they are constantly wrong is not how to do debates, you have to respect each other. This is why a lot of people hate Christians, because a lot refuse to see the other side, and refuse to learn where they come from.

That's why that user said what he said, because he knows it's not worth trying to say his opinion, and you have ruined the debate, I hope you have a great day! : D

 

[J-T]

So in other words, other opinions and how much they made it clear they are not doing evil don't matter, good to know!

I'll make sure to stay away from you, thanks ^_^

Also, you're probably fun at political parties, you have to have some "peaceful disagreements" to be able to debate well, just yelling at telling the other side they are constantly wrong is not how to do debates, you have to respect each other. This is why a lot of people hate Christians, because a lot refuse to see the other side, and refuse to learn where they come from.

That's why that user said what he said, because he knows it's not worth trying to say his opinion, and you have ruined the debate, I hope you have a great day! : D

I believe that I have more than demonstrated that I do not hate people on your >> Homosexual Thread << as I contended against Pharisaical behavior, and in addition to that, I have been very respectful to you, as well as the others, even though there is disagreement on certain issues, so please do not twist what I have stated to stir up division and strife, and please remember that this is a Christian Forum, and here we discuss truth, and as it pertains to this subject, it is my endeavor to unpack these issues to establish that they are in direct conflict and opposition to the instruction given to us in The Holy Bible, of which ultimately makes "opinion" irrelevant when people will have to stand before God and give an account for their deeds. You are welcome to follow along and participate, or not as you choose. There is a distinct difference between Biblical Christianity to that which is false Christianity where people make up a god that suits the taste of whatever lusts they have, demonstrating that they have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, even by being indifferent and ignoring what God wrote in The Holy Bible, thus proving that they profess Jesus with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from Him.

Do you tremble at the word of the LORD?

Isa 66:5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

People hate Christians because they hate Jesus.

Consider what The Lord Jesus Christ said in these verses:

Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

This is what Apostle John also said:

1Jn 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

I believe that I have more than demonstrated that I do not hate people on your >> Homosexual Thread << as I contended against Pharisaical behavior, and in addition to that, I have been very respectful to you, as well as the others, even though there is disagreement on certain issues, so please do not twist what I have stated to stir up division and strife, and please remember that this is a Christian Forum, and here we discuss truth, and as it pertains to this subject, it is my endeavor to unpack these issues to establish that they are in direct conflict and opposition to the instruction given to us in The Holy Bible, of which ultimately makes "opinion" irrelevant when people will have to stand before God and give an account for their deeds. You are welcome to follow along and participate, or not as you choose. There is a distinct difference between Biblical Christianity to that which is false Christianity where people make up a god that suits the taste of whatever lusts they have, demonstrating that they have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, even by being indifferent and ignoring what God wrote in The Holy Bible, thus proving that they profess Jesus with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from Him.

Do you tremble at the word of the LORD?

Isa 66:5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

People hate Christians because they hate Jesus.

Consider what The Lord Jesus Christ said in these verses:

Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.

Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Luk 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Luk 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

Joh 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.

This is what Apostle John also said:

1Jn 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

I wasn't saying you hate people, you are just to blind to opinions, I was feeling cheeky because your response was so "one-minded" that you came off as hateful.

I know we as Christians are hated because the journey is supposed to be hard, but what if you were trying to tell the word of God in an Asian country and say: "I hate your culture, but hope you find god" because that's basically what you are saying. I will admit Asian cultures can be bad, but that's why if we learn and show love, God should hopefully guide them, because it's not our decision, it's ultimately up to God if they become a follower or not.

I'm done talking to you, it's not worth it. It seems healthy debates do not exist on CC

Let the lord give you a blessed day. ^_^

 

[J-T]

I wasn't saying you hate people, you are just to blind to opinions, I was feeling cheeky because your response was so "one-minded" that you came off as hateful.

I know we as Christians are hated because the journey is supposed to be hard, but what if you were trying to tell the word of God in an Asian country and say: "I hate your culture, but hope you find god" because that's basically what you are saying. I will admit Asian cultures can be bad, but that's why if we learn and show love, God should hopefully guide them, because it's not our decision, it's ultimately up to God if they become a follower or not.

I'm done talking to you, it's not worth it. It seems healthy debates do not exist on CC

Let the lord give you a blessed day. ^_^

Please allow for me to express that I really try to be as patient, kind, and gentle as possible. I presented both the truth of Scripture, as well as the sourced information to communicate the truth about the evil of both Yoga and Martial Arts, and that both are of the Devil, with the call to repentance.

Think for a moment of someone's house being on fire, and people are in that burning house. A fire figher goes in before the flames get out of control, and tries to wake the people up. The fireman first shakes the people telling them that their house is on fire and that they need to get out. The people shrug, and say leave us alone, we are asleep. The second time, the fireman shakes them a little harder, raising his voice to say that the house is on fire and that they need to get out, but again, the people shrug, and say leave us alone, we are asleep. The third time, the fireman says in a really loud voice, your house is on fire! Wake up! But the people still shrug, and say leave us alone, we are asleep. The forth time, the fire fighter uses a bull horn while pouring water on the people, and says your house is on fire! Wake up and get out or else you will burn up and die in the fire! The people get very upset and angrily tell the fireman, get out! Leave us alone! We are asleep! Stop being so hateful and rude!

What would you do to get the people to wake up and get out of the burning house? How far would you go?

Your house is on fire! Yoga and Martial Arts are of the Devil! Repent and turn to The Lord Jesus Christ for forgiveness!

I am at the point of bluntly speaking the truth, sounding the warning. Who will listen? Who will wake up?

That stated, I can only sound the warning. I can't make or force anyone to do anything that they do not want to do. In the end, there will be many sharing their "opinions" to The Lord Jesus Christ on Judgement Day, but what did Jesus say in Matthew 7:13-27 about those that will say something to the effect; "Lord, Lord, did we not do many wonderful works in your name? Did we not cast out devils in your name?"
Yoga and Martial Arts originate with the Devil. They originate from temple of idols. What did the Lord say in 2Corinthians 6:14-18 and what commanment did the Apostles give to the Gentiles in Acts 15:19-29?

 

[SarahUmbreon]

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*SarahUmbreon Leaves Thread*

 

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You stated in a previous post that you had never seen anything that shows that martial arts is of the Devil. In repsonse, I shared outside information via the sourced sites to show the origin of martial arts, and that is religious practice of the worship of the dead (ancestors) and "spirits". Martial Arts is something that is taught by indoctrination. From the word "indoctrination" come the word "doctrine". The ancient religion of Taoism, just like the ancient religion of the Mayans, as well as the Egyptians, involved the use of images of idols in their "worship", just as those of Occult religions still do today.

Ahh, here is the misunderstanding between us. When I said I did not see anything in my using Tai Chi as a form of physical exercise to be of the devil, that is what I meant. I was not, and stated earlier, referring to the origin or the spiritual practice of Martial Arts. I made sure to state that Martial Arts was NOT my "god," which should have clued you in.

I also stated that those who see Martial Arts as their god are practicing evil. It appears you have not been able to recognize the difference between physical exercise and spiritual worshiping.

Given your view of Martial Arts, I suggest you broaden your condemnation of such to cover ALL activities practiced in the Olympics, as the Olympics themselves are of pagan origins.

God bless

 

[J-T]

Ahh, here is the misunderstanding between us. When I said I did not see anything in my using Tai Chi as a form of physical exercise to be of the devil, that is what I meant. I was not, and stated earlier, referring to the origin or the spiritual practice of Martial Arts. I made sure to state that Martial Arts was NOT my "god," which should have clued you in.

I also stated that those who see Martial Arts as their god are practicing evil. It appears you have not been able to recognize the difference between physical exercise and spiritual worshiping.

Given your view of Martial Arts, I suggest you broaden your condemnation of such to cover ALL activities practiced in the Olympics, as the Olympics themselves are of pagan origins.

God bless

Please understand that I have am not condemning you or anyone. What I do condemn are the practices of Martial Arts and Yoga, as both, as I mentioned before are practices of divivination originating from Satan and temple of idols, which I will broaden here, that both is witchcraft and are idolatrous practices that are rituals used to worhip devils (demons), as well as for the inviting in of them for possession. When you or anyone practices Martial Arts or Yoga, you are performing the very same rituals that those of the temples of idols perform for the intents that they do them, and hereinlies the great deception that has been brought into our society, including Churches. No matther how you and others slice it and dice it, there is no justification for these acts, as the words of The Lord cannot be anulled.

Read 2Corinthians 6:14-28, 2Peter 2-3, Jude, & Revelation 2:14-29 again in addition with the following verses and passages:

Act 21:25 As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.

1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Eph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

Eph 5:8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

Eph 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

Eph 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Eph 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Eph 5:12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.

Eph 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.

Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.

Eph 5:15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,

Eph 5:16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

Eph 5:17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Eph 5:18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

Eph 5:19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;

Eph 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

Eph 5:21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

Eph 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Eph 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Eph 5:26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

Eph 5:27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.

Eph 5:29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

Eph 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Eph 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.

 

[J-T]

@SarahUmbreon, why did you think that my post (#94) is funny? Have you fully researched the facts and history of Martial Arts and Yoga, and perhaps in a position to articulate and/or draft a well documented argument to refute what I have posted?

 

[SarahUmbreon]

@SarahUmbreon, why did you think that my post (#94) is funny? Have you fully researched the facts and history of Martial Arts and Yoga, and perhaps in a position to articulate and/or draft a well documented argument to refute what I have posted?

*Teleports back in*

Buddy, I left this thread, I laughed because you missed the point of what that user said. He was saying you should hate the olympics cause it’s rooted in pagan origins, you just brought up Martial arts again. I legit think you have a personal hate problem and are slightly insane. We will probably never get along, but I will pray for you, for we are in Christ together, I just legit can’t stand your opinions, they piss me off, to be honest, and you can’t change my mind. Anyway, I’m leaving, bye, not worth my time.

*Teleports away from this awful thread*

 

[J-T]

*Teleports back in*

Buddy, I left this thread, I laughed because you missed the point of what that user said. He was saying you should hate the olympics cause it’s rooted in pagan origins, you just brought up Martial arts again. I legit think you have a personal hate problem and are slightly insane. We will probably never get along, but I will pray for you, for we are in Christ together, I just legit can’t stand your opinions, they piss me off, to be honest, and you can’t change my mind. Anyway, I’m leaving, bye, not worth my time.

*Teleports away from this awful thread*

While you are busy 'teleporting' back and forth to share your reactions, perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing some data with us that you think supports your position in defending martial arts and yoga.

As far as the point per the Olympics and Sports; I had already addressed that point in a previous post, and didn't find it necessary to rehash it again, since the subject is about Martial Arts, of which I also include Yoga. As far as "hate" is concerned, I have absolutely no hate or anymosity for anyone on this thread. What I do hate are the practices of Martial Arts and Yoga because I know that those practices of divination are of the Devil and are evil, and what I have shared are not mere opinions, but facts based upon evidence, and there is a lot more evidence that has yet to be shared, including that of the Satanists behind these evil practices that absolutely hate God and Christians. In stating this, it is not my objective to make you angry, but instead to present what I can to stir you and others to repentance in Jesus Christ.

I recommend doing a Biblical study with a word search on the word "hate" to examine where, why, how, and to waht extent the word is used. Below are a few verses:

1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Zec 8:17 And let none of you imagine evil in your hearts against his neighbour; and love no false oath: for all these are things that I hate, saith the LORD.

Pro 8:13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate

Mat 5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Luk 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Joh 15:18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

 

[Dino246]

As far as the point per the Olympics and Sports; I had already addressed that point in a previous post, and didn't find it necessary to rehash it again, since the subject is about Martial Arts, of which I also include Yoga.

Yoga is in no way at all a "martial art". While there are connections between yoga and certain martial art forms, lumping them together only makes it more difficult to address either properly.

 

[J-T]

Yoga is in no way at all a "martial art". While there are connections between yoga and certain martial art forms, lumping them together only makes it more difficult to address either properly.

I never stated the Yoga is a martial art. But, since you were quick to remark that there are connections between Yoga and "certain martial art forms", perhaps you can expound upon that and cite some documented resources to aid in this discussion.

 

[Dino246]

I never stated the Yoga is a martial art. But, since you were quick to remark that there are connections between Yoga and "certain martial art forms", perhaps you can expound upon that and cite some documented resources to aid in this discussion.

"Quick to remark"? Interesting comment. I don't see how the timing of my remark has anything to do with anything.