Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?
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Not true. It is the seat of judgement occupied by the authority of Moses that continues into the New Covenant. Jesus taught His disciples to obey those who sit in that chair.
The Chair of Moses is an eternal reality because it belongs to Jesus.
The Chair is established on earth and Jesus is going to return to the Father.
That being so Jesus sits the one the Father chose in the Chair in His stead. That is Peter formerly Simon.
The Chair of Moses is an eternal reality because it belongs to Jesus.
The Chair is established on earth and Jesus is going to return to the Father.
That being so Jesus sits the one the Father chose in the Chair in His stead. That is Peter formerly Simon.
I understand that is what the law of the Catholic fathers teach as law. . But we are to seek the approval of our unseen Holy Father in heaven Its his chair signified by Moses . Moses represents the letter of the law (death) .as one of the two witnesses of God not seen . The prophets represent the power of the unseen Holy Father the Holy See comimng in the power of the gospel .The healing law of faith.
Faith the eternal must be mixed with the the temporal things seen a shadow of faith not the very unseen substance.
Men lording it over the non venerable pew sitters is not a Biblical doctrine . When Peter was seduced into thinking the it that the gates of hell would not prevail against was his own flesh and blood. That power was shown of it represented words of gospel as that in which the gates could never prevail against. Peter was forgiven of blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus for trying to sit in the seat of Moses .the unseen authority of our one heavenly Holy Father. We walk or understand God not seen by the faith that works in us. .It is not of us lest any man like Peter boast in false pride.
Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus, the apostle.
Mathew 16: 22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Important lesson. learn the difference between the things seen corrupted mankind, the temporal, and the unseen eternal things of God . The faithless father of lies would have mankind believe its all one and the same Devine thing.
The gospel key below must be applied. It requires mixing the unseen eternal with the temporal things of corrupted mankind. The gates of hell could never prevail against it as it is written (sola scriptura) it reveal to Peter and was not revealed by flesh and blood .
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
Faith the eternal must be mixed with the the temporal things seen a shadow of faith not the very unseen substance.
Men lording it over the non venerable pew sitters is not a Biblical doctrine . When Peter was seduced into thinking the it that the gates of hell would not prevail against was his own flesh and blood. That power was shown of it represented words of gospel as that in which the gates could never prevail against. Peter was forgiven of blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus for trying to sit in the seat of Moses .the unseen authority of our one heavenly Holy Father. We walk or understand God not seen by the faith that works in us. .It is not of us lest any man like Peter boast in false pride.
Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus, the apostle.
Mathew 16: 22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Important lesson. learn the difference between the things seen corrupted mankind, the temporal, and the unseen eternal things of God . The faithless father of lies would have mankind believe its all one and the same Devine thing.
The gospel key below must be applied. It requires mixing the unseen eternal with the temporal things of corrupted mankind. The gates of hell could never prevail against it as it is written (sola scriptura) it reveal to Peter and was not revealed by flesh and blood .
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
It wasn't Blasphemy. Peter didn't know those details about what happened to him. Peter experienced a valuable lesson singular in nature and exclusive to his charism. What it was is the first attempt of hell to prevail against the central declaration of Truth expressed by the Church. The Faith received it's first Deposit. Satan wanted to distort it as soon as it was born on earth. What we see is the serpent opening it's mouth to devour the child of God( deposit of Faith) as it emerged from the womb. That's what happened. Garee you are slandering an Apostle to support false claims.
The first attempt of making the gospel as the it that the gates of hell could never prevail against was with the apostle Abel .The first recorded martyr and member of the bride of Christ.. . Christ did not first begin to apply it , (the gospel) with Peter thousands of years later...
That is not a biblically teaching. Peter was held responsible for the blasphemous words that came from His mouth. He denied Christ over and over.
Peter performed the works of blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus as a man of sin. He was responsible proving he was faithless trusting in false pride..
The gospel is the power that the gates of hell could never prevail against not corrupter flesh and blood Peter or any man . The gospel does not make men venerable to lord over the faith of the non venerable pew sitters. that a law that comes from seeking the approval of men
Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
When the Son of Man, the apostle Jesus left and disappeared out of sight that window of forgiveness closed. Today the Pope in his false pride is guilty of blasphemy against the unseen Holy Spirit.
The power of faith is reckoned after the Father .He hold the keys that the gates of hell could never prevail against .Not the Son of man, Jesus who freely confess his flesh profits for nothing.
What applies to us below, applied to the apostle Jesus earthen vessel .
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
God is not a man and neither is there any fleshly infallible umpire set between our father not seen and man seen with the approval of both . God does not approve and it follows his children do not either. .
Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
That is not a biblically teaching. Peter was held responsible for the blasphemous words that came from His mouth. He denied Christ over and over.
Peter performed the works of blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus as a man of sin. He was responsible proving he was faithless trusting in false pride..
The gospel is the power that the gates of hell could never prevail against not corrupter flesh and blood Peter or any man . The gospel does not make men venerable to lord over the faith of the non venerable pew sitters. that a law that comes from seeking the approval of men
Matthew 12:31-32 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
When the Son of Man, the apostle Jesus left and disappeared out of sight that window of forgiveness closed. Today the Pope in his false pride is guilty of blasphemy against the unseen Holy Spirit.
The power of faith is reckoned after the Father .He hold the keys that the gates of hell could never prevail against .Not the Son of man, Jesus who freely confess his flesh profits for nothing.
What applies to us below, applied to the apostle Jesus earthen vessel .
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
God is not a man and neither is there any fleshly infallible umpire set between our father not seen and man seen with the approval of both . God does not approve and it follows his children do not either. .
Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
Scriptures or the law of the fathers they call apostolic succession.
Yes, I have exampled them. It does not make me an expert but I spent ten years daily on a Catholic Protestant discussion format and have heard all their arguments against our one source of Christian faith, written in the law and prophets (Sola scriptura)
Is sola scriptura productive for seeking the approval of God not seen ?
Yes, I have exampled them. It does not make me an expert but I spent ten years daily on a Catholic Protestant discussion format and have heard all their arguments against our one source of Christian faith, written in the law and prophets (Sola scriptura)
Is sola scriptura productive for seeking the approval of God not seen ?
Does our Holy Father not seen exist?
He gives us the authority as a warning of those who would seduce us we do need a man seen to teach us . Our Father teaches us and as a bonus brings to our new minds the things he has taught us. He warns us of those who call men fathers on earth .One is our Holy Father of all spirits in heaven
1 John 2: 26 -27These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
He gives us the authority as a warning of those who would seduce us we do need a man seen to teach us . Our Father teaches us and as a bonus brings to our new minds the things he has taught us. He warns us of those who call men fathers on earth .One is our Holy Father of all spirits in heaven
1 John 2: 26 -27These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
You not aware Accusing catholic
Ccc 841 state muslim God is catholic God.
Muslim don't believe trinity At all but God that don't believe trinity is also catholic God.
The chapter Al-Ikhlas (The Unity) was revealed at Makkah. It is so named because the belief in the Unity of Allah has been purified of all kinds of shirk (polytheism) and a clear explanation of it has been given. In this chapter, too, a comprehensive elucidation of the Unity of Allah has also been provided.
Sudah all ikhlas 112
3. "He begets not, nor is He begotten.2
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
You not aware Accusing catholic
Ccc 841 state muslim God is catholic God.
Muslim don't believe trinity At all but God that don't believe trinity is also catholic God.
The chapter Al-Ikhlas (The Unity) was revealed at Makkah. It is so named because the belief in the Unity of Allah has been purified of all kinds of shirk (polytheism) and a clear explanation of it has been given. In this chapter, too, a comprehensive elucidation of the Unity of Allah has also been provided.
Sudah all ikhlas 112
3. "He begets not, nor is He begotten.2
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful.
The first church never had authority to make their own teaching.
Jesus ask them to preach the gospel not purgatory.
Galatians 1
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Jesus ask them to preach the gospel not purgatory.
Galatians 1
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
He is the authority of persons.
Yes as new born again creatures we are moved from within to both know the will and are empowered to do the good pleasurer of God. Some do it willfully while other are dragged to perform that good pleasure in us.
Like that of Jonas that would rather die and share the power of the gospel . Jesus our example did it with delight .
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Either way his will is done on earth as he moves men from heaven. . working in their new hearts .
Philipain2: 13: 14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
It was not Peter that worked in Peter.
Peter as a law of the fathers started his own oral tradition that Catholics must call sacred . Went to town and spread a lie.
Jesus the apostle informs us that if every time he had to work to dispel a oral traditions of the fathers kings and princes (men who lord it over the faith of the non vereable). We would need a bigger planet to hold the books. One example should be enough I would think to not go above all things written in the law and the prophets .(sola scriptura)
John 21: 22:25 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Peter should of keep his eyes on Jesus rather than false pride.
Yes as new born again creatures we are moved from within to both know the will and are empowered to do the good pleasurer of God. Some do it willfully while other are dragged to perform that good pleasure in us.
Like that of Jonas that would rather die and share the power of the gospel . Jesus our example did it with delight .
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Either way his will is done on earth as he moves men from heaven. . working in their new hearts .
Philipain2: 13: 14 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings:
It was not Peter that worked in Peter.
Peter as a law of the fathers started his own oral tradition that Catholics must call sacred . Went to town and spread a lie.
Jesus the apostle informs us that if every time he had to work to dispel a oral traditions of the fathers kings and princes (men who lord it over the faith of the non vereable). We would need a bigger planet to hold the books. One example should be enough I would think to not go above all things written in the law and the prophets .(sola scriptura)
John 21: 22:25 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me. Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true. And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.
Peter should of keep his eyes on Jesus rather than false pride.
