I used to do the same thing. Every time I read scripture I was looking for fodder to bash something. Polemics are important, but they can really be over emphasized.
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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I used to do the same thing. Every time I read scripture I was looking for fodder to bash something. Polemics are important, but they can really be over emphasized.
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eternally-gratefull
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I used to too, I think it was trained, someone pointed it out to me awhile months. And I have tried to change, I saw how much it hurt no only me but those who I spoke to,
Even the one who holds some Calvinistic views has said he’s not a Calvinist per se.
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eternally-gratefull
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Yes, thank you.
when you start seeing people who are not there, it is time to sit back and reevalue
It’s definitely trained in some churches. Many actually.
I believe in polemics and I believe in apologetics, but each in its place.
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EleventhHour
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All I can state is this comment
is different than your other stated position.
Did you mean saved individuals?
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eternally-gratefull
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And each can go to far.
its like the view everyone who believes in eternal security are calvinist, or free gracers or love their sin. When you think this is all there is, any chance of conversation is destroyed, and you start to attack anyone who believes in eternal security, it can get nasty, to the point of name calling, false accusation, and blame shifting.
to much of that happens, and it gives God a bad name in my view
We are all good.
And one calling upon the name of the Lord is what sets those things in motion.
Actually his name was Jakob Harmenszoon.
The issues supposedly settled in what is properly named the Second Synod of Dordrecht.
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eternally-gratefull
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eternally-gratefull
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It seems like we have 3 views here .
1) Forseen faith
2) 'Absolute predestination '
or 3) What the bible actually says .
The first two are just variations of the same error on Total depravity , Election, Predestination and Perseverence . If your a Arminain you are closer to Calvinism . This is a in-house squabble. Most denomination s are caught in one or the other ditches. Thats why we get folks conceding oh I must be a 4 point calvinist; I must be a 3 or 2 pointer not realising both systems are in error.
1) Forseen faith
2) 'Absolute predestination '
or 3) What the bible actually says .
The first two are just variations of the same error on Total depravity , Election, Predestination and Perseverence . If your a Arminain you are closer to Calvinism . This is a in-house squabble. Most denomination s are caught in one or the other ditches. Thats why we get folks conceding oh I must be a 4 point calvinist; I must be a 3 or 2 pointer not realising both systems are in error.
So what is your inclination my friend?
Do you have a statement of faith or doctrinal statement to offer us?
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eternally-gratefull
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Hey
I would rather listen to a person and understand what they think. It’s to dangerous to try to read an article and try to put everyone in that castle. I used to be a Baptist and everyone assumed I believed in salvation by immersion because the church they went to did
it’s dangerous
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eternally-gratefull
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This is a horrible post
It assumes your
View is biblical. And basically shuts down all Conversation