It's not "A" select group it's "HIS" select group.
Makes all the difference in the world.
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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Makes all the difference in the world.
Are you specifying that God is looking forward into the future to see who would heed the call (and thereby believe) and upon confirmation of same (by an act of observation) God retroactively tiks off the "foreknown" and "predestined" boxes, securing this person's salvation for eternity?
Actually, it’s not.
In Romans 8:30, is everyone there justified and glorified who are called?
How about Romans 8:28
Effectual means it accomplishes what it is intended to accomplish. Does God’s call ever accomplish what it is intended to accomplish?
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how do we expect
To have any kind of meaningful discussion if everything is looked at with a Calvinist it Anti Calvinist view. How can you hear what the other is saying and properly understand what he truly believes
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Where does the Bible say that God elects unbelievers?
True. Well said. Let’s exclude Calvin terms and stick to Biblical terms.
But God gives people over to that at times, right? He judicially removes HIS Hand of restraint?
Do you believe God restrains evil in some cases, and removes restraint in others?
For example, it is said He sends strong delusion. Is that sending accomplished by removing that which restrains?
The point I am making is that if God Himself is in fact doing the choosing, then we can be assured that it is a righteous and just choice, furthermore, being a choice originating from Himself, He has the inherent right to do it.
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Hyper Calvinism is Calvinism taken to the extreme to where evangelism and soul winning is rejected.
God only elects believers. He does not elect those who persist in unbelief. So He does “choose” one over another, right?
I think the point we can find in Romans 8 is that the "call" to the "predestined" is infallibly effective.
I’m trying to get people to think outside of boxes. Might fail, but doesn’t hurt to try.
Divine foreknowledge means ABSOLUTE foreknowledge -- the person, his thoughts, words, motives and actions.
God knew from the very beginning all those who would believe on His Son and receive Him as Lord and Savior. But His plan of salvation did not stop at simply delivering them from Hell, and from their sins and guilt. God went well beyond that and planned for each of His children to be transformed into exact replicas of His perfect Son. Thus those whom He justified, He also glorified.
I think you can see I'm predominantly using scriptures . But it is crucial to see the calvinistic worldview at influence here .