Elect according to the foreknowledge of God. 1 Peter 1:2
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Predestination is of existing saints to adoption/glorification, not sinners to conversion. (Eph. 1:5, 11; Rom. 8:23, 29-30)
Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)
Adoption is the future redemption of the body, not conversion. (Rom. 8:23, 15-17; Gal. 4:1-6)
Election is to service, calling and purpose, not to salvation. (Isa. 42:1; Acts 9:15; Rom. 11:28)
Adoption is the future redemption of the body, not conversion. (Rom. 8:23, 15-17; Gal. 4:1-6)
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Yes it’s persons
he saw who.
who is who? Jesus told us in John 6 whoever would see and believe
we see it from the begining, Adam and Eve could have rejected Gods forgiveness. Instead they allowed him to cloth them and cover their nakedness (Sin)
abraham, god made promises, abraham without seeing believed, and because of that, God imputes to him
david, the man after gods own heart, before he committed his grave sins, Because he had faith in god
we can read hebrews 11” and see all the great men And women of faith, people who God saw, and predestined to be justified freely. not because of what they did, but because of what God did or was going to do,
he saw who.
who is who? Jesus told us in John 6 whoever would see and believe
we see it from the begining, Adam and Eve could have rejected Gods forgiveness. Instead they allowed him to cloth them and cover their nakedness (Sin)
abraham, god made promises, abraham without seeing believed, and because of that, God imputes to him
david, the man after gods own heart, before he committed his grave sins, Because he had faith in god
we can read hebrews 11” and see all the great men And women of faith, people who God saw, and predestined to be justified freely. not because of what they did, but because of what God did or was going to do,
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I am NT sure I can agree with this,
predestined is said to be those who were saved they were predestined to receive an inheritance, salvation or adoption happens to be part of that inheritance,
there are the elect who are jews, elect based on being in abraham and recieving his promise then there are the elect of Gods spiritual children, recieving the promises based on Christ, we must learn to differentiate the two
predestined is said to be those who were saved they were predestined to receive an inheritance, salvation or adoption happens to be part of that inheritance,
there are the elect who are jews, elect based on being in abraham and recieving his promise then there are the elect of Gods spiritual children, recieving the promises based on Christ, we must learn to differentiate the two
The destination of those in Christ is Guarenteed Glorification/ inheritance/ conformity ( Manifestation of the Sons of God . None of this is for those outside of Christ . The predestination is only applied after someone believes. No verse says a person is chosen to be saved . In any sense ..The Calvinist says 'Absolute predestination ' the Arminian ( which is basically the same calvinistic thinking ) bases this on ' Foreknowledge ' That being chosen/ elected is based on what God saw we would do. Both these positions are false .
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God saw me before the creation of the world. And chose to conform me to the image of his son.
this is not a calvinist vs arminian issue, it should be a biblical issue, I fear so many make doctrines in order to appose the “other view” Instead of just taking thenword for what it says,
ps.arminianism looks nothing like calvinism. I have heard this a few times this past year, not sure where this thinking comes from
this is not a calvinist vs arminian issue, it should be a biblical issue, I fear so many make doctrines in order to appose the “other view” Instead of just taking thenword for what it says,
ps.arminianism looks nothing like calvinism. I have heard this a few times this past year, not sure where this thinking comes from
' In Him ' . We become in him ( him , being Jesus ,the only elect preexisting one before the foundation of the world ) in time . Calvinism and other reformed thinking groups have to have this verse to be a choosing before they exist ..But for bible believers every time ' predestination ' shows up its for a future occurrence, which only is for those in Christ . No one is in Christ before they exist. ( Eph 2.11-12) ) After we are in Christ all those are chosen to be holy and blameless in Him . Only those are chosen to be conformed to his image at glorification/ adoption . ROM 8.23
God foreknows each and every person life even before they are born.. He knows how each person will respond to His will even before they make the response.. Therefore from that foreknowledge He can foreknow whom He will conform to the image of Jesus..
Romans 8: KJV {29} For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."
Romans 8: KJV {29} For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."