Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?
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Show me the verse
Show me when Jesus say that.
My brother, all you say above is what catholic lie to you, to make you believe in RCC and not Jesus.
Catholic is pagan religion, but constantin have brilliant strategy to attract Christian
How to make Christian not obey Jesus.
1. Persecute them
2. Persecution not work for some than use this strategy
A. Tell them that RCC believe Jesus as god but
B. To make them not obey Jesus, lie to them that Jesus give authority to pope
And pope do Satan agenda.
So the end of the day this people support lucifer
No wonder pope promote lucifer agenda, new world order
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jan/02/catholicism.religion
To make you believe
My brother, all you say above is what catholic lie to you, to make you believe in RCC and not Jesus.
Catholic is pagan religion, but constantin have brilliant strategy to attract Christian
How to make Christian not obey Jesus.
1. Persecute them
2. Persecution not work for some than use this strategy
A. Tell them that RCC believe Jesus as god but
B. To make them not obey Jesus, lie to them that Jesus give authority to pope
And pope do Satan agenda.
So the end of the day this people support lucifer
No wonder pope promote lucifer agenda, new world order
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jan/02/catholicism.religion
To make you believe
Yes a advocate, not a daysman/ Pope. (fleshy infallible teacher) One is our Teacher not seen. He alone is worthy to open the seals
.Jesus learned from the father just as us. In regard to that he informs us His flesh profits for zero .Many disciples walked away. There hope was that the flesh could profit.
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.
John 6: 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
The Holy Spirit our comforter and guide who lovingly works in us and commands us to studying seeking His approval . Not just a good suggestion or one that must be given over to a legion of fathers
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
He is obviously absent from Catholicism .they must at all costs seek the approval of the legion of fathers after another authority (oral traditions) other than sola scriptura the Sacred tradition of God .
Who is your teacher?
John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
He is obviously absent from Catholicism .they must at all costs seek the approval of the legion of fathers after another authority (oral traditions) other than sola scriptura the Sacred tradition of God .
Who is your teacher?
John 14: 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
No one said the Holy Spirit was absent in the Old testament .He is on every page.
The historical church as the bride of Christ is first mentioned in respect to born again Abel .God had Mercy and Grace on him.
Abel is the first recorded martyr of the church .He was murdered by his faithless brother.
The church reads scripture as the Holy Spirit works in the to both will and do his good pleasure.
He warns us of those who would seduce us to beleive we do need a man seen to teach us.
The historical church as the bride of Christ is first mentioned in respect to born again Abel .God had Mercy and Grace on him.
Abel is the first recorded martyr of the church .He was murdered by his faithless brother.
The church reads scripture as the Holy Spirit works in the to both will and do his good pleasure.
He warns us of those who would seduce us to beleive we do need a man seen to teach us.
You're still contradicting Scripture. Here are the relevant parts of Revelation 5:
1 Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.
...
11 Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12 In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!”
13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power,
for ever and ever!”
14 The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
JESUS is the Lamb. JESUS is the Lion of Judah. JESUS was slain (and rose again). JESUS took the scroll from the Father.
1 Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 But no one in heaven or on earth or under the earth could open the scroll or even look inside it. 4 I wept and wept because no one was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed. He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”
6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing at the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out into all the earth. 7 He went and took the scroll from the right hand of him who sat on the throne.
...
11 Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels, numbering thousands upon thousands, and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders. 12 In a loud voice they were saying:
“Worthy is the Lamb, who was slain,
to receive power and wealth and wisdom and strength
and honor and glory and praise!”
13 Then I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and on the sea, and all that is in them, saying:
“To him who sits on the throne and to the Lamb
be praise and honor and glory and power,
for ever and ever!”
14 The four living creatures said, “Amen,” and the elders fell down and worshiped.
JESUS is the Lamb. JESUS is the Lion of Judah. JESUS was slain (and rose again). JESUS took the scroll from the Father.
Catholic proven teach pagan believed like purgatory, pray to Mary, do evil agenda ex history of killing Christian and Jews
Behind holocaust
http://chinhnghia.com/TheVaticansHolocaust.pdf
And prepare for the big lucifer plan new world order.
Behind holocaust
http://chinhnghia.com/TheVaticansHolocaust.pdf
And prepare for the big lucifer plan new world order.
Can you tell me why pope want one world government?
Pope Francis has been successfully executing the Vatican's well-defined strategy to create a one world religion. Now he is using his global influence and power to establish a one world government
https://www.proclaimingthegospel.or...03854&message_id=180068078&topic_id=180021176
Pope Francis has been successfully executing the Vatican's well-defined strategy to create a one world religion. Now he is using his global influence and power to establish a one world government
https://www.proclaimingthegospel.or...03854&message_id=180068078&topic_id=180021176
Inspired remembrance?
The Sacred Tradition as a oral tradition of sinful men is the private interpretation of faithless fathers. . . that calls all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) heresy .
God brings to our mind the things he has taught us . he warns of men who claim to be devine source of faith.
John14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Attributing the things that belong to our unseen Holy Father to corruptible sinners on earth is simply faithless blasphemy.
You simply as a law of your fathers must follow another written authority that makes all thing written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) without effect. Even listing first in their private interpretation things that come from their own mouth making the word of God without effect .
No man can serve two teaching masters both the flesh of mankind and the unseen Holy Spirt of our one Father.
The Catholic book of their law ....# 80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".
Sola scriptura lovingly commands us to seek the approval of our one Father in heaven. It is made to no effect by those who must seek the approval of man
The Sacred Tradition as a oral tradition of sinful men is the private interpretation of faithless fathers. . . that calls all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) heresy .
God brings to our mind the things he has taught us . he warns of men who claim to be devine source of faith.
John14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Attributing the things that belong to our unseen Holy Father to corruptible sinners on earth is simply faithless blasphemy.
You simply as a law of your fathers must follow another written authority that makes all thing written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) without effect. Even listing first in their private interpretation things that come from their own mouth making the word of God without effect .
No man can serve two teaching masters both the flesh of mankind and the unseen Holy Spirt of our one Father.
The Catholic book of their law ....# 80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".
Sola scriptura lovingly commands us to seek the approval of our one Father in heaven. It is made to no effect by those who must seek the approval of man