President Donald J. Trump Is Pro-Life, Saving The Innocent Unborn Child

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Truth7t7

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............and when they do it acts as an abortifacient.
How do you induce an (Abortion) on a fetus that isn't present.

Birth control such as, the (Pill), diaphragm, condom, prevents conception.

Your claim that the three methods above is an Abortifacient is (Wrong)

The morning after pill would be an Abortifacient

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion
 
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EleventhHour

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Wrong

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion
Which the pill does...thins the lining of the uterus .it prevents the fetus from implanting....yeah everyone rails about abortion but stays silent on the birth control pill.
 

Truth7t7

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Your claim is (False)

Once again (The Pill) supresses ovulation so the female egg dosent drop, so male sperm and the female egg never come in contact to see conception.

How do you induce an (Abortion) on a fetus that isn't present.

Birth control such as, the (Pill), diaphragm, condom, prevents conception.

Your claim that the three methods above is an Abortifacient is (Wrong)

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion

Birth control pills

Birth control pills (BCPs) contain man-made forms of 2 hormones called estrogen and progestin. These hormones are made naturally in a woman's ovaries. BCPs can contain both of these hormones, or have progestin only.

Both hormones prevent a woman's ovary from releasing an egg during her menstrual cycle (called ovulation). They do this by changing the levels of the natural hormones the body makes.
 
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EleventhHour

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Your claim is (False)

Once again (The Pill) supresses ovulation so the female egg dosent drop, so male sperm and the female egg never come in contact to see conception.

How do you induce an (Abortion) on a fetus that isn't present.

Birth control such as, the (Pill), diaphragm, condom, prevents conception.

Your claim that the three methods above is an Abortifacient is (Wrong)

The morning after pill would be an Abortifacient

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion
Never mind you so not have a medical background and do not know the thay yes sometime she egg does get fertilized.
 

Truth7t7

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Never mind you so not have a medical background and do not know the thay yes sometime she egg does get fertilized.
Your claim was that the (Birth Control Pill) is an Abortifacient and this is (Wrong), you now run from the facts presented, as if the estogen, progestin, will abort the pregnancy (False)

If the female egg was to drop and meet the male sperm conception takes place, it's called pregnancy, it's not aborted.

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion

Birth control pills

Birth control pills (BCPs) contain man-made forms of 2 hormones called estrogen and progestin. These hormones are made naturally in a woman's ovaries. BCPs can contain both of these hormones, or have progestin only.

Both hormones prevent a woman's ovary from releasing an egg during her menstrual cycle (called ovulation). They do this by changing the levels of the natural hormones the body makes.
 

Truth7t7

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Which the pill does...thins the lining of the uterus .it prevents the fetus from implanting....yeah everyone rails about abortion but stays silent on the birth control pill.
Your claim is 100% false

The (Birth Control Pill) stops the ovary from releasing the egg, it never sees the uterus.

Your claim of the uterus lining is nothing more than a distraction from the truth, and a bad one at that.

Easy out, admit your wrong (y)

Birth control pills

Birth control pills (BCPs) contain man-made forms of 2 hormones called estrogen and progestin. These hormones are made naturally in a woman's ovaries. BCPs can contain both of these hormones, or have progestin only.

Both hormones prevent a woman's ovary from releasing an egg during her menstrual cycle (called ovulation). They do this by changing the levels of the natural hormones the body makes.
 
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EleventhHour

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Your claim is 100% false

The (Birth Control Pill) stops the ovary from releasing the egg, it never sees the uterus.

Your claim of the uterus lining is nothing more than a distraction from the truth, and a bad one at that.

Easy out, admit your wrong (y)

Birth control pills

Birth control pills (BCPs) contain man-made forms of 2 hormones called estrogen and progestin. These hormones are made naturally in a woman's ovaries. BCPs can contain both of these hormones, or have progestin only.

Both hormones prevent a woman's ovary from releasing an egg during her menstrual cycle (called ovulation). They do this by changing the levels of the natural hormones the body makes.
Empirical evidence in medical studies does not fit your paradigm ....that is fine.
 

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Romney In The Fox Clip 3:10

Mitt Romney was interviewed yesterday on his future vote on the Nominee, he stated he desired a constructionist, and dosent want to see justices who look into the sky and pull out ideas? (y)

That's exactly what the Supreme Court did when ruling on Roe V. Wade (Abortion) and Obergefell V. Hodges (Same Sex Marriage) they looked beyond the stars, the black hole!
Those were activist judges, they did not judge the case presented to them to see if it was constitutional but just made up some right of privacy nonsense. That judgement was totally bogus and has cost millions of lives and millions more to come unless a strong pro-life jurist is confirmed.
 

soggykitten

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#30
Your claim is (False)

Once again (The Pill) supresses ovulation so the female egg dosent drop, so male sperm and the female egg never come in contact to see conception.

How do you induce an (Abortion) on a fetus that isn't present.

Birth control such as, the (Pill), diaphragm, condom, prevents conception.

Your claim that the three methods above is an Abortifacient is (Wrong)

Merriam-webster: Definition of abortifacient

: an agent (such as a drug) that induces abortion

Birth control pills

Birth control pills (BCPs) contain man-made forms of 2 hormones called estrogen and progestin. These hormones are made naturally in a woman's ovaries. BCPs can contain both of these hormones, or have progestin only.

Both hormones prevent a woman's ovary from releasing an egg during her menstrual cycle (called ovulation). They do this by changing the levels of the natural hormones the body makes.
No, their statement is correct. There are also natural herbs that can be used as an abortifacient.

  • The third mode of action of the birth control pill is abortifacient. The pills cause changes in the endometrium (lining of the uterus), making implantation more difficult. Examinations show that the abortifacient birth control pill transforms the endometrium from a welcoming, lush forest into a barren, sterile desert. In a cycle where ovulation was not prevented and fertilization takes place, the pill causes a “silent abortion.”
5 Facts: Abortifacient Brief: The Birth Control Pill
 

Truth7t7

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No, their statement is correct. There are also natural herbs that can be used as an abortifacient.

  • The third mode of action of the birth control pill is abortifacient. The pills cause changes in the endometrium (lining of the uterus), making implantation more difficult. Examinations show that the abortifacient birth control pill transforms the endometrium from a welcoming, lush forest into a barren, sterile desert. In a cycle where ovulation was not prevented and fertilization takes place, the pill causes a “silent abortion.”
5 Facts: Abortifacient Brief: The Birth Control Pill
My claim was, if ovulation is supressed (The Pill), and the egg (Never Made It To The Uterus) their is no act of (Abortifacient)

You can't abort a fetus that isn't present, this means of birth control (Prevents Conception)

5 Facts: Abortifacient Brief: The Birth Control Pill
  • The third mode of action of the birth control pill is abortifacient. The pills cause changes in the endometrium (lining of the uterus), making implantation more difficult. Examinations show that the abortifacient birth control pill transforms the endometrium from a welcoming, lush forest into a barren, sterile desert. In a cycle where ovulation was not prevented and fertilization takes place, the pill causes a “silent abortion.”
 

Truth7t7

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No, their statement is correct. There are also natural herbs that can be used as an abortifacient.

  • The third mode of action of the birth control pill is abortifacient. The pills cause changes in the endometrium (lining of the uterus), making implantation more difficult. Examinations show that the abortifacient birth control pill transforms the endometrium from a welcoming, lush forest into a barren, sterile desert. In a cycle where ovulation was not prevented and fertilization takes place, the pill causes a “silent abortion.”
5 Facts: Abortifacient Brief: The Birth Control Pill
Most birth control pills are "combination pills" containing a mix of the hormones estrogen and progesterone to prevent ovulation (the release of an egg during the monthly cycle). A woman cannot get pregnant if she doesn't ovulate because there is no egg to be fertilized.
kidshealth.org › contraception-birth
Birth Control Pill (for Teens) -
 

soggykitten

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My claim was, if ovulation is supressed (The Pill), and the egg (Never Made It To The Uterus) their is no act of (Abortifacient)

You can't abort a fetus that isn't present, this means of birth control (Prevents Conception)

5 Facts: Abortifacient Brief: The Birth Control Pill
  • The third mode of action of the birth control pill is abortifacient. The pills cause changes in the endometrium (lining of the uterus), making implantation more difficult. Examinations show that the abortifacient birth control pill transforms the endometrium from a welcoming, lush forest into a barren, sterile desert. In a cycle where ovulation was not prevented and fertilization takes place, the pill causes a “silent abortion.”
I think if you read the whole article and the five facts you'd be more informed.
 

Truth7t7

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I think if you read the whole article and the five facts you'd be more informed.
The fact is (Human Life International) is a Roman Catholic Org, that wrote the article, it has a pre-determined bias in stopping all contraception.

The (Old) pill not mentioned in the article, stops ovulation, and they stated it had higher risks, you bet they have a Roman Catholic bias on the subject, don't kid yourself.
 

soggykitten

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The fact is (Human Life International) is a Roman Catholic Org, that wrote the article, it has a pre-determined bias in stopping all contraception.

The (Old) pill not mentioned in the article, stops ovulation, and they stated it had higher risks, you bet they have a Roman Catholic bias on the subject, don't kid yourself.
What is this, a club of anti-Catholics?
You imagine a Christian/religious source would lie about the fact certain birth control pills can induce abortion?

How about Mayo Clinic? *this is not speaking to abortion through use of BCP*
Can I use several birth control pills at once for emergency contraception?

It's possible to use standard estrogen-progestin birth control pills for emergency contraception, but check with your doctor for the proper dose and timing of the pills.
Certain types of pills are specifically designed to keep you from becoming pregnant if you've had unprotected sex. These medications are sometimes referred to as the "morning-after pill."

Morning-after pills contain either levonorgestrel (Plan B One-Step, Take Action, Next Choice One Dose, others) or ulipristal acetate (ella). Levonorgestrel pills are available over-the-counter to women or men of any age. Levonorgestrel pills work best when used as soon as possible — and within 3 days — after unprotected sex.
Ulipristal acetate (ella) is a nonhormonal medication available only by prescription. This medication is taken as a single dose for up to 5 days after unprotected sex.


US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health

3.6. Effects on Pregnancy
Some authors have supported the view that emergency contraception is a form of abortion arguing that preovulatory administration of levonorgestrel as an emergency contraceptive has significant potential to work via abortion [14, 33]. Conventionally, any drug or device that acts after implantation is termed an abortifacient rather than a contraceptive [34]. Since the mechanism of action for emergency contraceptives does not involve dislodging an implanted fetus, they would conventionally not be termed abortifacients.
 

Truth7t7

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What is this, a club of anti-Catholics?
You imagine a Christian/religious source would lie about the fact certain birth control pills can induce abortion?

How about Mayo Clinic? *this is not speaking to abortion through use of BCP*
Can I use several birth control pills at once for emergency contraception?

It's possible to use standard estrogen-progestin birth control pills for emergency contraception, but check with your doctor for the proper dose and timing of the pills.
Certain types of pills are specifically designed to keep you from becoming pregnant if you've had unprotected sex. These medications are sometimes referred to as the "morning-after pill."

Morning-after pills contain either levonorgestrel (Plan B One-Step, Take Action, Next Choice One Dose, others) or ulipristal acetate (ella). Levonorgestrel pills are available over-the-counter to women or men of any age. Levonorgestrel pills work best when used as soon as possible — and within 3 days — after unprotected sex.
Ulipristal acetate (ella) is a nonhormonal medication available only by prescription. This medication is taken as a single dose for up to 5 days after unprotected sex.


US National Library of Medicine
National Institutes of Health

3.6. Effects on Pregnancy
Some authors have supported the view that emergency contraception is a form of abortion arguing that preovulatory administration of levonorgestrel as an emergency contraceptive has significant potential to work via abortion [14, 33]. Conventionally, any drug or device that acts after implantation is termed an abortifacient rather than a contraceptive [34]. Since the mechanism of action for emergency contraceptives does not involve dislodging an implanted fetus, they would conventionally not be termed abortifacients.
Once again, the pill prevents ovulation and contraception.

The condom prevents contraception.

The diaphragm prevents contraception.

Do you oppose the use of birth control that prevents contraception?
 

soggykitten

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Once again, the pill prevents ovulation and contraception.

The condom prevents contraception.

The diaphragm prevents contraception.

Do you oppose the use of birth control that prevents contraception?
Once again? You ignored the newest articles?
No, I don't oppose birth control.
 
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How can anyone support a chronic liar, immoral, unethical, greedy person to be our leader?
So I assume you're not voting this election? Certainly you wouldn't want to vote for Biden/Harris.




Do you understand how his negative character will affect the morality of the new generation of catholics?
Catholics? I think there are moral issues within the churches that need to be dealt with before you start looking to gov't. for moral guidance, and not just the Catholics.





Will our children think it is OK to bully and lie to get ahead?
I don't know, both sides have a tendency to see truth through their own glasses. But that's politics. As far as bullying, the MSM and leftists have attacked Trump from the moment he said he was running. They mocked him, said he'd never win. They made up lies, they attacked him in every manner they could find. And when he stands up against it he's called a bully. So it depends on where you stand. I see that he has been bullied since he began and I don't know how he's held up under all the attacks, fake dossier, fake Russian collusion. I think most people would have thrown in the towel and walked away by now.






Will our children think it is OK to ignore the less fortunate?
No one thinks it's ok to ignore the less fortunate. America is the most giving country in the world. They are first on the scene to help in disasters, even with countries that hate us. BTW the government doesn't raise your children, you do!






Do we want our mission to be America first and me first as the right way to think?
When your boat is sinking, can you rescue anyone else? Yes, sometimes it has to be America first. That doesn't mean we will stop helping others. That means the constant free rides will be over. And no country can keep that up.
 
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I think it’s safe to say that the abortion legislation in America is very liberal.

I have been doing some research on European legislation, and the legislation is far stricter in European countries than here. 12 weeks is usually an absolute limit no matter what. Here we can kill babies that are able to live outside the womb.

Europeans don’t understand this and think we have legislation equal to theirs. That’s why they’re opposing Amy Coney Barrett. If they knew what we’re actually doing here, they wouldn’t.
 
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kaylagrl

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I think it’s safe to say that the abortion legislation in America is very liberal.

I have been doing some research on European legislation, and the legislation is far stricter in European countries than here. 12 weeks is usually an absolute limit no matter what. Here we can kill babies that are able to live outside the womb.

Europeans don’t understand this and think we have legislation equal to theirs. That’s why they’re opposing Amy Coney Barrett. If they knew what we’re actually doing here, they wouldn’t.


The United States has the highest abortion rate in the westernworld, and the third-highest abortion rate of all developed nations worldwide. Folks, we have blood on our hands, how can God bless us as a nation?