What do you think of Martial Arts?

[Godcares]

If you were to do a greater research, you would learn that the Roman Catholic Church is the Great Whore of Mystery Babylon, as has been taught by Christians for hundreds of years, including the Translators of the King James Bible in 1611; and that the Roman Catholic Church has a rich, verifiable history of murdering Christians, even for owning a Bible. In addition to learning about the history of the R.C.C., you can also learn that the Pentecostal/Charamatic Movement is yet another deceiving group that popped up after the false prophet groups of the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, The Way International, Christodephians, H.W. Armstrong Church of God, and other groups like them.


Pro 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Rom 10:16-17 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.


The men in the videos that you have posted are Seventh Day Adventists. Proof Evidence has been presented to you that establishes the inescable fact that Seventh Day Adventists is indeed a False Prophet. Did you choose to turn a blind eye to the verifiable proof? They are not Christians, but are Deceivers and Antichrists!

Furthermore, you have also been presented with Scriptural passages, where The True and Living Jesus Christ said to beware of false prophets, and made it clear that they cannot bear good fruit, and established severe consequences for those that follow after them. This is outlined, as it is written, in Matthew 7:13-27 KJB The question is, do you think yourself to be wiser that Jesus Christ to disagree with Him to ignore His wisdom? Do you consider yourself to be wiser than The Lord to also disregard what He said in the context of 2Corinthians 6:14-18 KJB and to ignore His divine instruction?

The Lord Jesus Christ made it clear in the full context of John 10 KJB that His sheep hear His voice and NOT the voices of strangers. Why is it that you choose to hear the voices of strangers, such as the False Prophet Seventh Day Adventists?

I noticed that you did not answer my question, but I will ask again; Are you a member of the Seventh Day Adventists?

I will not state the church that I belong to, since you will just criticize it like you did the Seventh Day Adventist Church, Pentecostal Church, Roman Catholic Church, and Jehovah’s Witness Church etc.

I do not see the point of criticizing churches because there is no church that has all the truth unless you believe that your church does.

Because I have been part of many churches, I have listened to many different pastors from various churches.

I also have friends and colleagues from different churches and some of them are Seventh Day Adventists and they do recommend books to read and online YouTube preachers.

When someone preaches, the focus should not be on who the messenger is, but on the message.
A good example of this is Balaam and Nebuchadnezzar in the bible.

• Balaam in the book Numbers was not an Israelite and Balak, king of the Moabites, asked him to curse Israel. And God spoke to Balaam and told him not to curse Israel. He was even approached by and saw the angel of the Lord. In Numbers 23:5 it says “And the LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth…” So God spoke through this sinner!
• King Nebuchadnezzar was a pagan and was not an Israelite. He worshipped false gods and did not worship the One True God. However, in Daniel Chapter 2, God decided to reveal to him about what is going to happen in the future in a dream. God could have decided to reveal the future to one of his prophets or any Israelite, but decided to communicate to a heathen king.

So does God speak to people who might be deceived and do not know the full truth?
From these stories, the answer is yes!

So can you learn truth from a sermon whether it is from Seventh Day Adventist, Pentecostal, Roman Catholic, and Jehovah’s Witness.

There are millions of people that have received salvation and accepted Jesus through all these churches that you have criticized.

So in the videos that I posted, listen to what the message is, not who is delivering the message.
If you focus on who the messenger is, then you will never learn anything!

And there is no church that is without error!

And instead of criticizing rather pray for those people who you believe are in error that they will come to know the full truth.

 

[soggykitten]

DO NOT BE DECEIVED!!
Yoga & Martial Arts
Are of the Devil!!
​

The Lord Jesus Christ is calling the Churches to repentance in Revelation 2-3

Everyone that has learned any form of Yoga and/or Martial Arts has been deceived into learning "the deep things of Satan". Both are practices of divination and are deeply steeped into the Occult.

To fully grasp this reality, you must first be grounded with understanding of what is written in The Holy Bible, with passages such as Acts 15:19-29 KJB per the commandment given unto the Gentiles to abstain from pollutions of idols, and 2Corthians 6:14-28 KJB per being separate and to not touch "the unclean thing", which by discernment, we know to be the Devil. I had written a post to share more indepth information about Yoga >> Here << and soon, I will share evidence of proof that the Knight Templar of the Roman Catholic Church dp in fact worship Lucifer/Satan the Devil >> HERE << (Parental Guidance is strongly advised), and as time permits, I will also share evidence of how both Yoga and all forms of Martial Arts, which are also antichrist religious practices per the worship of images of idols, are central practices of the Satanic Illuminati-Freemasons in their express worship of Satan and for the inviting in of devils to possess them, and expound a bit more of how these will ultimately lead to their worship of the Antichrist, as these are the deceivers that are deceiving the entire world into learning these, and other deep things of Satan.

Also read 1Corithians 10 KJB highlighting verses 20-22 & Revelation 2:14-29 KJB along with John 10 KJB, 2Corinthians 11KJB, 2Timothy 3 KJB, Matthew 7:13-27 KJB, Matthew 24 KJB, 1John KJB, 2John KJB, 3John KJB, 2Peter 2-3 KJB, & Jude KJB

It is also necessary to mention that the aforemention groups consider themselves to be "gods" that not only worship Lucifer/Satan, but also all images of idols of ancient Egypt, as well as the image of the idol of Buddha, along with others from around the world; and via their infiltration into the Church Denominations, they have worked to deceive from within as they are indeed the ones that hold both the doctrines of Balaam and the Nicolaitans.

One example of how this deception has been made manifest is by "Jimmy Swaggart Ministries", as they have Martial Arts classes on their Campus. Be sure to watch the videos below

to give you a bit of insight of who these people really are, and why it is that they have the Martial Arts classes on their Campus:

(Let me also mention that the Satan Hand Signs are not only used by members of the Illuminati, but they originate with the images of the idols of Baphomet and Buddha);

Jimmy Swaggart's Defense of Satanic Handsigns

DeceptionBytes
Published on Feb 11, 2016
"Why all the Satanic Hand signs at Jimmy Swaggart Ministries?"

JIMMY SWAGGART MINISTRY EXPOSED!

Rick Thorne
Published on Aug 9, 2017
"This video is about JIMMY SWAGGART LUKEWARM MINISTRY! THIS SHOCKING VIDEO EXPOSES THE VAST CORRUPTION INSIDE THE MINISTRY....
WHY ARE THE MEGA PREACHERS FLASHING THE DEVIL SIGN WHEN THE ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY AND POLITICIANS ARE DOING IT? JESUS SAID NOT TO ACT LIKE THE WORLD AND WE WOULD KNOW THE FALSE PROPHETS BY THEIR WORKS...WAKE UP!"

@soggykitten @Infinite_Ark @stepbystep @Ronja @BenFTW @Socreta93 @GyO @lenna @Roughsoul1991 @Subhumanoidal @Lanolin @AndyMaleh @Duskey @EleventhHour @Blain @Runningman @Solemateleft @SoulWeaver @Kim82

The still image of Swaggart's wife is fake.
The rest is utter hogwash.
No disrespect to you since you're sharing from a source and don't know any better.

 

[J-T]

The still image of Swaggart's wife is fake.
The rest is utter hogwash.
No disrespect to you since you're sharing from a source and don't know any better.

No disrepect taken, but I have verified the data with the archived videos found on the Swaggart's official website, as well as by their "live broadcasts" and "re-runs" on their Son Life Broadcasting Network (S.B.N.). It's not difficult to verify information these days.

While doubt can be had on still images, as we know that there are a great number of manipulated images on the Internet, the truth is that they do use the Satanic hand signs, and that in of itself is indeed most verifiable. Not only do the Musicians use the hand signs, but the Music Director also uses them, and it is obvious that the hand signs are also used by members in the audience.

Let me share that I have thousands of documented proofs of the Illuminati - Freemason groups from Facebook, as well as from their various channels on YouTube, along with their various Twitter accounts, etc. There is a lot to unpack, but the Satanic hand signs is the easiest with their "teachings" of what the hand signs mean, as well as photos of Illuminati/Skull and Bones, and so forth all using them. There is also proof that they control the industries of Hollywood, Television, and Music, and there are scores of examples of how virtually all Actors and Musicians use the hand signs (including many "Contemporary Christian" musicians); and those evil examples can be directly linked with their work; The written Scripts as well as the written lyrics where all manners of things of the Occult are played out in movies, television series, music videos and lyrics.

These are the very methods by which they have been and are deceiving the entire world, as they are placing the spiritual poison front and center into the homes of the slumbering and unsuspecting masses, and all are being indoctrinated, so much to the point that there are now Satanic books being sold in Walmart for children, while there are Satanic Cartoons being produced, along with several movies scripted solely for Satan/Lucifer; Two examples are "American Satan" and "Fallen", while television series such as Lucifer is out, along with the latest offshoots of Batman series (I can't recall the name at the moment of the latest one on NetFlix) the parents of "Bruce Wayne" was portrayed as being involved with Satanism, and much more. And without drifting too far away from the topic of Martial Arts, there are also numerous various Illuminati groups on Facebook that are solely dedicated to Martial Arts, not to mention necromancy, black magic, Tarot Cards, and so forth. I should also mention that being involved in the Counter-Cult Ministry for 20 years, I have had numerous conversations with members of both the Masonic and Illuminati Lodges, and have a wealth of knowledge of what all that they believe and practice. Martial Arts is the practice of divination and are in fact "rituals", just as Yoga also consists of various "rituals", and "rituals" are what they perform to communicate with devils (demons) to invoke for possession.

The red, black, and white colors is another subject to itself, as it is used by the Satanists; The Swaggart's Church uses those colors for a reason, and that is why the carpet and walls are red; the stage and chairs, etc., are black, and the Occult style of crosses on the floor are white. It's all one big Satanic ritual as they twist the scriptures to deceive their adherants. For anyone that is truly grounded in the written Word of God, it is not difficult to discern and pick out their numerous errors concerning the scriptures, including their fumbling the Biblical Doctrine of Hell, as they prooved themselves to flip-flop between literal hell to that of a non-literal hell, because they do their shows live for the world to see.

 

[J-T]

I will not state the church that I belong to, since you will just criticize it like you did the Seventh Day Adventist Church, Pentecostal Church, Roman Catholic Church, and Jehovah’s Witness Church etc.

I do not see the point of criticizing churches because there is no church that has all the truth unless you believe that your church does.

Because I have been part of many churches, I have listened to many different pastors from various churches.

I also have friends and colleagues from different churches and some of them are Seventh Day Adventists and they do recommend books to read and online YouTube preachers.

When someone preaches, the focus should not be on who the messenger is, but on the message.
A good example of this is Balaam and Nebuchadnezzar in the bible.

• Balaam in the book Numbers was not an Israelite and Balak, king of the Moabites, asked him to curse Israel. And God spoke to Balaam and told him not to curse Israel. He was even approached by and saw the angel of the Lord. In Numbers 23:5 it says “And the LORD put a word in Balaam’s mouth…” So God spoke through this sinner!
• King Nebuchadnezzar was a pagan and was not an Israelite. He worshipped false gods and did not worship the One True God. However, in Daniel Chapter 2, God decided to reveal to him about what is going to happen in the future in a dream. God could have decided to reveal the future to one of his prophets or any Israelite, but decided to communicate to a heathen king.

So does God speak to people who might be deceived and do not know the full truth?
From these stories, the answer is yes!

So can you learn truth from a sermon whether it is from Seventh Day Adventist, Pentecostal, Roman Catholic, and Jehovah’s Witness.

There are millions of people that have received salvation and accepted Jesus through all these churches that you have criticized.

So in the videos that I posted, listen to what the message is, not who is delivering the message.
If you focus on who the messenger is, then you will never learn anything!

And there is no church that is without error!

And instead of criticizing rather pray for those people who you believe are in error that they will come to know the full truth.

For the sake of not continuing with duplicate posts that detract from the subject of this thread; Please, let us continue this conversation on the Bible Corruptions thread >>>> HERE <<<<.

 

[soggykitten]

No disrepect taken, but I have verified the data with the archived videos found on the Swaggart's official website, as well as by their "live broadcasts" and "re-runs" on their Son Life Broadcasting Network (S.B.N.). It's not difficult to verify information these days.

While doubt can be had on still images, as we know that there are a great number of manipulated images on the Internet, the truth is that they do use the Satanic hand signs, and that in of itself is indeed most verifiable. Not only do the Musicians use the hand signs, but the Music Director also uses them, and it is obvious that the hand signs are also used by members in the audience.

Let me share that I have thousands of documented proofs of the Illuminati - Freemason groups from Facebook, as well as from their various channels on YouTube, along with their various Twitter accounts, etc. There is a lot to unpack, but the Satanic hand signs is the easiest with their "teachings" of what the hand signs mean, as well as photos of Illuminati/Skull and Bones, and so forth all using them. There is also proof that they control the industries of Hollywood, Television, and Music, and there are scores of examples of how virtually all Actors and Musicians use the hand signs (including many "Contemporary Christian" musicians); and those evil examples can be directly linked with their work; The written Scripts as well as the written lyrics where all manners of things of the Occult are played out in movies, television series, music videos and lyrics.

These are the very methods by which they have been and are deceiving the entire world, as they are placing the spiritual poison front and center into the homes of the slumbering and unsuspecting masses, and all are being indoctrinated, so much to the point that there are now Satanic books being sold in Walmart for children, while there are Satanic Cartoons being produced, along with several movies scripted solely for Satan/Lucifer; Two examples are "American Satan" and "Fallen", while television series such as Lucifer is out, along with the latest offshoots of Batman series (I can't recall the name at the moment of the latest one on NetFlix) the parents of "Bruce Wayne" was portrayed as being involved with Satanism, and much more. And without drifting too far away from the topic of Martial Arts, there are also numerous various Illuminati groups on Facebook that are solely dedicated to Martial Arts, not to mention necromancy, black magic, Tarot Cards, and so forth. I should also mention that being involved in the Counter-Cult Ministry for 20 years, I have had numerous conversations with members of both the Masonic and Illuminati Lodges, and have a wealth of knowledge of what all that they believe and practice. Martial Arts is the practice of divination and are in fact "rituals", just as Yoga also consists of various "rituals", and "rituals" are what they perform to communicate with devils (demons) to invoke for possession.

The red, black, and white colors is another subject to itself, as it is used by the Satanists; The Swaggart's Church uses those colors for a reason, and that is why the carpet and walls are red; the stage and chairs, etc., are black, and the Occult style of crosses on the floor are white. It's all one big Satanic ritual as they twist the scriptures to deceive their adherants. For anyone that is truly grounded in the written Word of God, it is not difficult to discern and pick out their numerous errors concerning the scriptures, including their fumbling the Biblical Doctrine of Hell, as they prooved themselves to flip-flop between literal hell to that of a non-literal hell, because they do their shows live for the world to see.

If those videos you refer to are archived at JSM then they should be easy to find most anywhere. I look forward to your posting them.

 

[J-T]

If those videos you refer to are archived at JSM then they should be easy to find most anywhere. I look forward to your posting them.

You can look for them and research for yourself if you like.They have videos posted on YouTube as well.

Here are a few search results to get started with:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Francis+&+Friends&atb=v123-2__&ia=web

Frances & FriendsYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.francesandfriends.com
Frances & Friends, a Daily Chat Show featuring Frances Swaggart and a Panel including Donnie Swaggart, Mike MUzzerall, Jim Nations, Carl Brown and Guests.

Frances & Friends - SBNYour browser indicates if you've visited this link
https://watch.sonlifetv.com/frances-friends-1
Frances and Friends is hosted by Frances Swaggart. The Frances and Friends live broadcast is a talk-show format that deals with current events, doctrinal questions and information relevant to the viewer today. With a panel of Bible teachers, ministers, scholars and advisers, the program includes guest interviews, book reviews, news information and allows audience participation with question ...

Watch Frances and Friends Online | Stream Full Episodes ...Your browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.directv.com/tv/Frances-and-Friends-NUVmV09NZjFxNkU9
Check out episodes of Frances and Friends by season. Don't miss any episodes, set your DVR to record Frances and Friends. Current events from a biblical perspective. Hosted by Frances Swaggart. dxvdtpa010; Submit search. Get DIRECTV 1-888-777-2454 . My Account. Log in. Remember me. Forgot email or Access ID?

Frances and Friends - YouTubeYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGlOMXFO5bORAzDUcs9Zf7V7Z7kMwfi00
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

Frances Swaggart - Home | FacebookYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.facebook.com/FrancesSwaggart/
Frances Swaggart. 48,637 likes · 3,543 talking about this. Official Facebook page of Frances Swaggart

 

[soggykitten]

You can look for them and research for yourself if you like.They have videos posted on YouTube as well.

Here are a few search results to get started with:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Francis+&+Friends&atb=v123-2__&ia=web

Frances & FriendsYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.francesandfriends.com
Frances & Friends, a Daily Chat Show featuring Frances Swaggart and a Panel including Donnie Swaggart, Mike MUzzerall, Jim Nations, Carl Brown and Guests.

Frances & Friends - SBNYour browser indicates if you've visited this link
https://watch.sonlifetv.com/frances-friends-1
Frances and Friends is hosted by Frances Swaggart. The Frances and Friends live broadcast is a talk-show format that deals with current events, doctrinal questions and information relevant to the viewer today. With a panel of Bible teachers, ministers, scholars and advisers, the program includes guest interviews, book reviews, news information and allows audience participation with question ...

Watch Frances and Friends Online | Stream Full Episodes ...Your browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.directv.com/tv/Frances-and-Friends-NUVmV09NZjFxNkU9
Check out episodes of Frances and Friends by season. Don't miss any episodes, set your DVR to record Frances and Friends. Current events from a biblical perspective. Hosted by Frances Swaggart. dxvdtpa010; Submit search. Get DIRECTV 1-888-777-2454 . My Account. Log in. Remember me. Forgot email or Access ID?

Frances and Friends - YouTubeYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGlOMXFO5bORAzDUcs9Zf7V7Z7kMwfi00
Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

Frances Swaggart - Home | FacebookYour browser indicates if you've visited this link

https://www.facebook.com/FrancesSwaggart/
Frances Swaggart. 48,637 likes · 3,543 talking about this. Official Facebook page of Frances Swaggart

No, I have no interest in working to help you sustain your claims. That you resorted to this answers my question.

If Frances Swaggart used displayed the Mano Cornuto it was to address the rumors and slurs against the ministry.
The Mano Cornuto in Italy means something quite opposite of what some think it means, the horns of the devil, when the devil has no horns that's kind of an odd inference. In Italy the Mano Cornuto gesture is used to ward off the evil eye.
In Brazil and certain other Latin countries when the Mano Cornuto is displayed and waved back and forth toward a man, it is meant to imply that man is a cuckold.

Frances Swaggart has stated that when people in their choir use that sign it is intended as a sign to the music director. A sign they know.
I assure you,thinking they're Satanic is nonsense. And Jimmy S. would in no short order explain that to anyone who further promotes this slander if they were to meet him face to face.

The real question is, why would any Christian violate the commandment as pertains to bearing false witness against not just another Christian but an entire ministry?

Instead of implying Swaggart ministry, whether one agrees with their doctrine or otherwise, is sinful maybe take a check on your own?

 

[J-T]

No, I have no interest in working to help you sustain your claims. That you resorted to this answers my question.

If Frances Swaggart used displayed the Mano Cornuto it was to address the rumors and slurs against the ministry.
The Mano Cornuto in Italy means something quite opposite of what some think it means, the horns of the devil, when the devil has no horns that's kind of an odd inference. In Italy the Mano Cornuto gesture is used to ward off the evil eye.
In Brazil and certain other Latin countries when the Mano Cornuto is displayed and waved back and forth toward a man, it is meant to imply that man is a cuckold.

Frances Swaggart has stated that when people in their choir use that sign it is intended as a sign to the music director. A sign they know.
I assure you,thinking they're Satanic is nonsense. And Jimmy S. would in no short order explain that to anyone who further promotes this slander if they were to meet him face to face.

The real question is, why would any Christian violate the commandment as pertains to bearing false witness against not just another Christian but an entire ministry?

Instead of implying Swaggart ministry, whether one agrees with their doctrine or otherwise, is sinful maybe take a check on your own?

Feel free to review post #60 and understand that I have not asked you for help for anything, and by the way, the photo of Francis Swaggart is not fake; It is real and not difficult for anyone to validate. That is just your poor opinion, of which demonstrates that you have not research the matter. I have already demonstrated that I can back up my claims, and did so >> HERE << on Pages 24-28 (Parental Guidance strongly advised). Rest assured that in due time, I will be posting even more evidence, including that of the Knight Templars of the Roman Catholic Church (Which Protestants and Baptists have always known to be the Great Whore of Mystery Babylon); Evidence that they worship Lucifer/Satan the Devil. Videos of Pope Francis blasphemously declaring that Lucifer is God can already be found on YouTube, along with various videos of Pope Francis bending the knee to Baal with the embracement of strange religions proclaiming that they all worship the same god. The hand signs that they all use indeed are Satanic Hand Signs, and as I also mentioned, yes, I can prove that too.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

So this thread has gotten me thinking, and I just remembered, my autistic friend, who is a Christian, does Karate, so seeing Christians against it would probably hurt his feelings and confuse him. From everything he has told me, he is into Karate for the excerise and feeling strong. You see, he likes anime like Dragonball, so that’s another reason why he is so into martial arts.

I think my mom put it best: “Yoga does not own stretching exercises”, you can just stretch for fitness and be totally fine. My mom helps her friend with her “Fit for God” program and they do exercising including Pilates. No yoga as far as I’m aware but we do stretches that I’m sure you could trace back to yoga, but we aren’t telling people to “breathe in chi” or stuff like that. When I was visiting my grandmother, who is very Christian, we went to a yoga class. Sure it was made up of older people, but I didn’t feel any “evil spirits”, and from what I know, my Grandmother I think goes to that class regularly, I might have to ask but the point is all about balance. Yes we are to reject evil, but “When is enough, enough?” like “When does it go too far and become hating something because it’s from a different culture?”

You don’t have to do what that other culture/group of people are doing to learn about them. It was really bad of me thinking I could accept gay people by reading homosexual stories, no bad idea. But I think if we learn where they are coming from, we can teach the gospel to them better, or at least that’s what I like to think.

Also:

some people seem to think everything asian or chinese is bad and unchristian, so it might just be prejudice.

with martial art, there may be associations with buddhist thought. which for some is more of a philosphy than a religion, as the buddha didnt actually want anyone to worship him and wanted people to live right, but people, being human went ahead and worshipped him anyway. of course, many buddhists wouldnt have heard of Jesus Christ as the gospel didnt reach far into China until last century, where its now exploded, even despite oprressive govts. Back then the routes to asia were closed and it was isolated from the west.

I used to do some tai chi, which could be classed as a martial art, but its more about keeping fit than anything else.

Yoga on the otherhand, I would stay away from, as its deeply tied with hindu gods worship.

I agree with how you said how Christians don’t seem to like Asian cultures because it is foreign. Sure they are of a different mindset, but they have a rich culture. I don’t agree with religion on Asian cultures, but they created art and have a beautiful buildings:











Plus, I think having an educated mind and having an interest in other cultures is never a bad thing ^_^...or at least I hope it isn’t lol 😅

 

[soggykitten]

So this thread has gotten me thinking, and I just remembered, my autistic friend, who is a Christian, does Karate, so seeing Christians against it would probably hurt his feelings and confuse him. From everything he has told me, he is into Karate for the excerise and feeling strong. You see, he likes anime like Dragonball, so that’s another reason why he is so into martial arts.

I think my mom put it best: “Yoga does not own stretching exercises”, you can just stretch for fitness and be totally fine. My mom helps her friend with her “Fit for God” program and they do exercising including Pilates. No yoga as far as I’m aware but we do stretches that I’m sure you could trace back to yoga, but we aren’t telling people to “breathe in chi” or stuff like that. When I was visiting my grandmother, who is very Christian, we went to a yoga class. Sure it was made up of older people, but I didn’t feel any “evil spirits”, and from what I know, my Grandmother I think goes to that class regularly, I might have to ask but the point is all about balance. Yes we are to reject evil, but “When is enough, enough?” like “When does it go too far and become hating something because it’s from a different culture?”

You don’t have to do what that other culture/group of people are doing to learn about them. It was really bad of me thinking I could accept gay people by reading homosexual stories, no bad idea. But I think if we learn where they are coming from, we can teach the gospel to them better, or at least that’s what I like to think.

Also:



I agree with how you said how Christians don’t seem to like Asian cultures because it is foreign. Sure they are of a different mindset, but they have a rich culture. I don’t agree with religion on Asian cultures, but they created art and have a beautiful buildings:

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Plus, I think having an educated mind and having an interest in other cultures is never a bad thing ^_^...or at least I hope it isn’t lol 😅

You can get the information from the horses mouth sort of speak. Ask your Karate friend it idolatry is part of their practice.

People are able to demonize anything. Recently something was recalled from years ago as pertains to the now dead pastor Jerry Falwell, RIP. He launched a campaign long years ago against a children's TV show! Saying they were of the devil and were intended to corrupt innocents. He even accused one of the costume characters of being gay! Because it had a triangle shaped antenna on its head.
In cases like that silliness I think desperate pastors launch into such absurdity just for the publicity it gains them. Like people in show business say, no publicity is bad.

 

[J-T]

So this thread has gotten me thinking, and I just remembered, my autistic friend, who is a Christian, does Karate, so seeing Christians against it would probably hurt his feelings and confuse him. From everything he has told me, he is into Karate for the excerise and feeling strong. You see, he likes anime like Dragonball, so that’s another reason why he is so into martial arts.

I think my mom put it best: “Yoga does not own stretching exercises”, you can just stretch for fitness and be totally fine. My mom helps her friend with her “Fit for God” program and they do exercising including Pilates. No yoga as far as I’m aware but we do stretches that I’m sure you could trace back to yoga, but we aren’t telling people to “breathe in chi” or stuff like that. When I was visiting my grandmother, who is very Christian, we went to a yoga class. Sure it was made up of older people, but I didn’t feel any “evil spirits”, and from what I know, my Grandmother I think goes to that class regularly, I might have to ask but the point is all about balance. Yes we are to reject evil, but “When is enough, enough?” like “When does it go too far and become hating something because it’s from a different culture?”

You don’t have to do what that other culture/group of people are doing to learn about them. It was really bad of me thinking I could accept gay people by reading homosexual stories, no bad idea. But I think if we learn where they are coming from, we can teach the gospel to them better, or at least that’s what I like to think.

Also:

I agree with how you said how Christians don’t seem to like Asian cultures because it is foreign. Sure they are of a different mindset, but they have a rich culture. I don’t agree with religion on Asian cultures, but they created art and have a beautiful buildings:

Plus, I think having an educated mind and having an interest in other cultures is never a bad thing ^_^...or at least I hope it isn’t lol 😅

Sarah, do not be deceived. Please review post #60 where I posted some information about Martial Arts and Yoga. In Acts 15:19-29 KJB, the Gentiles are commanded to abstain from pollutions of idols. Let there be no doubt that the very acts of Martial Arts and Yoga indeed are pollutions of idols that are Satanic rituals for the inviting in of devils (demons) for possession, and both are practices of divination, and has been brought in Churches under the disguise of phyical exercise. The Lord also gave instruction in 2Corinthians 6:14-18 KJB to be separate from infidels/temples of idols, and so forth. When the cultures are estranged and have turned their backs on the LORD, we are never to learn from them. We get that instruction from Deuteronomy 18:9-14. In modern times, we see these things being played out in various T.V. Shows, movies, video games, as well as music videos and much more, including P.B.S. so-called "Documentaries". These are the deep things of Satan that are plaguing the world for mass deception.

Deu 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.
Deu 18:12 For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.
Deu 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
Deu 18:14 For these nations, which thou shalt possess, hearkened unto observers of times, and unto diviners: but as for thee, the LORD thy God hath not suffered thee so to do.

Listen very closely to what Apostle Paul wrote by inspiration of The Holy Ghost:

1Co 10:19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing?
1Co 10:20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.
1Co 10:21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.
1Co 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he?

Martial Arts and Yoga originate with the Devil, and are practices of which Satanists do and boast of. Somewhere on YouTube, and I really don't recommend looking for it because it is so evil, but Satanists have a video telling their deceived New Agers where Yoga originates from, and that is ancient Egypt. They also go as far as a Satanic ritual in that video to where they hypnotically chant the name of Satan for transendental meditation also known as self-hypnosis. This is an example of what they sacrifice unto devils.

Now, on your own, I encourage you to prayerfully read Romans 1 to learn about what the root cause is for the judgement of homosexuality, and that root cause is the setting up of idols in your heart. When a person unrepentantly embraces these and other things, they set up idols in their heart, and in the Ministry, I have come to learn a great deal about people, including homosexuals that have been deceived into Satanism, various other cults, as well as Wicca/Witchcraft, Psychic, Necromancy, and so forth. What they all have in common is the setting up of idols / false doctrines in their hearts. This is also why we see so many young people in the Churches either stuggleling with homosexuality, and/or coming out as LGBTQ, and the truth is that it can all be traced back to Disney cartoons/movies which are fully laced with subliminal pornographic images, not to mention are based off of witchcraft, as well as scores of other t.v. shows and movies like Harry Potter, etc., that are the very tools of Satan to lure their hearts away from the LORD, and what is actually written in The Holy Bible.

My encouragement is for you, and your friend to simply repent of these things and to turn completely to The Lord Jesus Christ, and seek Him in repentance, even with prayerful reading of 1Timothy 1, as it is true that Jesus Christ came to save sinners.

 

[J-T]

You can get the information from the horses mouth sort of speak. Ask your Karate friend it idolatry is part of their practice.

People are able to demonize anything. Recently something was recalled from years ago as pertains to the now dead pastor Jerry Falwell, RIP. He launched a campaign long years ago against a children's TV show! Saying they were of the devil and were intended to corrupt innocents. He even accused one of the costume characters of being gay! Because it had a triangle shaped antenna on its head.
In cases like that silliness I think desperate pastors launch into such absurdity just for the publicity it gains them. Like people in show business say, no publicity is bad.

Christian Pastors also warned that the P.B.S. Sesame Street characters, Bert and Ernie, were gay, and they were mocked. Not long ago, the producers or creators of Bert and Ernie came out and said that the characters were gay. Furthermore, Stan Lee (who came out as being homosexual), before he died, said in an interview that the Green Lantern character was also 'gay'.

So yeah, you can get the information for the "horse's mouth" if you choose to research it without leaving it up to someone else, and putting yourself at risk of being a gossip and a slanderer. - Just saying. These are just two examples of how they have sought to deceive and beguile people from infancy, not to mention that various television series and movies have also been scripted to blaspheme the name of The Lord Jesus Christ, while mocking and slandering Christianity, even portraying them to be crazy idiots.

It's not difficult to "demonize" once it is discovered that the deceivers are in fact demon possessed deceivers, not to mention that they use images of idols as "props" and/or "artwork" on their sets, and craftily script in themes based from the Occult. Oh, and just think about all of the godless Actors and Musicians that have come out of the closet in the last 10 years, while marriage has been redefined in this modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.

 

[SarahUmbreon]

You can get the information from the horses mouth sort of speak. Ask your Karate friend it idolatry is part of their practice.

People are able to demonize anything. Recently something was recalled from years ago as pertains to the now dead pastor Jerry Falwell, RIP. He launched a campaign long years ago against a children's TV show! Saying they were of the devil and were intended to corrupt innocents. He even accused one of the costume characters of being gay! Because it had a triangle shaped antenna on its head.
In cases like that silliness I think desperate pastors launch into such absurdity just for the publicity it gains them. Like people in show business say, no publicity is bad.

I honestly don’t think they do that, I’ll try to remember to ask him, but he always talks about how he has tournaments/tests to do and he actually gets to teach kids, which I think for my friend with Autism is something very meaningful to him. He actually had some parents accuse him of “getting too close” to their daughter (It’s Karate, it’s all about physical contact) and it made him legit sad, he said he wasn’t even thinking of anything bad. So yes, my friend I think is too innocent in mind to think of using karate for evil. I believe in self defense and think it is very important to have nowadays. My mom was even thinking of putting me into a “Self Defense Class” when I was living on my own. I never got around to it and I’m not the best physically, but I can appreciate people who do it as a hobby, for self defense, or just for fun.

I’m not judging anyone who likes martial arts/yoga. I definitely know how dangerous yoga can be because my sister is really into it and believes in “Chi/spirit” stuff. But I don’t judge her, I love her as my sister. I just think everyone needs to respect each other, you live life the way you want to, and I’ll live life the way I want to, but we all still believe and trust in God. I’m not saying to do bad stuff, but what some Christians are okay with, others are not, and I think that is fine. Just another example on how God made us all different ^_^

 

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I honestly don’t think they do that, I’ll try to remember to ask him, but he always talks about how he has tournaments/tests to do and he actually gets to teach kids, which I think for my friend with Autism is something very meaningful to him. He actually had some parents accuse him of “getting too close” to their daughter (It’s Karate, it’s all about physical contact) and it made him legit sad, he said he wasn’t even thinking of anything bad. So yes, my friend I think is too innocent in mind to think of using karate for evil. I believe in self defense and think it is very important to have nowadays. My mom was even thinking of putting me into a “Self Defense Class” when I was living on my own. I never got around to it and I’m not the best physically, but I can appreciate people who do it as a hobby, for self defense, or just for fun.

I’m not judging anyone who likes martial arts/yoga. I definitely know how dangerous yoga can be because my sister is really into it and believes in “Chi/spirit” stuff. But I don’t judge her, I love her as my sister. I just think everyone needs to respect each other, you live life the way you want to, and I’ll live life the way I want to, but we all still believe and trust in God. I’m not saying to do bad stuff, but what some Christians are okay with, others are not, and I think that is fine. Just another example on how God made us all different ^_^

I know someone that started training in martial arts after they were accosted by a Boy Scout leader. There was no rape or anything like sodomy but the violation was still horrible. And the kids were defenseless because they were outnumbered by the perverts accosting them at night when they'd been sleeping.
After that many of them started taking self defense classes so as to be able to better defend themselves.

I've found it people start looking for devils everywhere they'll find them anywhere they care to.
Nothing wrong with yoga, martial arts, or even mediation. I know many Christians who do yoga. It's healthy and for some has changed their life when as new Christians they were finding their way away from worldly appetites. Yoga and meditation helped steer them on the path to wholeness.

And in this world I think children should start to train in self defense disciplines as soon as they're able. Five or six years of age is a good time to start.
Satan and his minions roam this world like a hungry lion seeking souls to devour. It's a beautiful thing when a seven year old can kick one of their butts while defending his four year old sister from them.
The devils are evil. Not the discipline that protects a person from them.

 

[J-T]

I honestly don’t think they do that, I’ll try to remember to ask him, but he always talks about how he has tournaments/tests to do and he actually gets to teach kids, which I think for my friend with Autism is something very meaningful to him. He actually had some parents accuse him of “getting too close” to their daughter (It’s Karate, it’s all about physical contact) and it made him legit sad, he said he wasn’t even thinking of anything bad. So yes, my friend I think is too innocent in mind to think of using karate for evil. I believe in self defense and think it is very important to have nowadays. My mom was even thinking of putting me into a “Self Defense Class” when I was living on my own. I never got around to it and I’m not the best physically, but I can appreciate people who do it as a hobby, for self defense, or just for fun.

I’m not judging anyone who likes martial arts/yoga. I definitely know how dangerous yoga can be because my sister is really into it and believes in “Chi/spirit” stuff. But I don’t judge her, I love her as my sister. I just think everyone needs to respect each other, you live life the way you want to, and I’ll live life the way I want to, but we all still believe and trust in God. I’m not saying to do bad stuff, but what some Christians are okay with, others are not, and I think that is fine. Just another example on how God made us all different ^_^

What you are saying does not line up with what is taught and written in the Bible. I posted some passages that clearly refute the engagement of those things, as I spoke truth that I can also back up with proof evidence, and yet noticed that you reacted as being "indifferent". The “Chi/spirit” is the spirit of Antichrist a.k.a. the spirit of error a.k.a. the spirit of iniquity, and it is truly of the Devil and not of God. It is a doctrine of devils, and is the worship of idols/devils. The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles are against those things, and taught against those things.

The Lord Jesus Christ is the Judge, and He will judge every man, great and small, according to their deeds. All throughout the Bible, God has called His people to be separate from the world, including being separate from those things that are of the Devil.

The Lord Jesus Christ said:

Mat 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

I encourage the reading of the full context of these highlighted verses and passages:

Apostle John instructed:

1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Apostle Paul said, as it is written:

1Ti 4:1-2 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

1Ti 4:4-5 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

Apostle Paul also issued this instruction to the Church; Listen closely to what God said in this passage:

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

2Co 6:15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

2Co 6:16-18 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

When it comes to people not enduring sound doctrine, Apostle Paul gave this instruction:

2Ti 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

2Ti 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

2Ti 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

This is what The Lord Jesus Christ will say to professing Christians, when He will judge them, that follow after false prophets and false teachers: (Highlight verses 21-23 with 26-27);

Mat 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Mat 7:15-16 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18-20 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Mat 7:21-23 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Mat 7:24-25 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

Mat 7:26-27 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

 

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I would not put a lot of stock in anything that came from a Swaggert. As for all the copy/paste information, it appears to all be subjective; in that it is the belief of the person/persons who compiled the information.

I have not found one single part of Tai Chi that could possibly be considered demonic, or of the devil. It is a simple group of exercise routines that helps the person to gain mobility and flexibility of body parts, and serves quite well as physical therapy for those recovering from certain injuries.

Someone said "anything can be seen as demonic" or something like that, and I agree. Demonic is as demonic believes to paraphrase Forrest Gump. What is in the heart is what determines the validity of the thing. Regarding my exercise routine choice, as I am thinking of, praising, and praying to God in spirit, mind and body while exercising, I have not the slightest hesitation in continuing to use Tai Chi as a form of exercise to keep my physical body in good condition. Granted, I do not do as much any more, due to the time needed, but it is not because I fear I am practicing some demonic thing.

Some people just need to get a grip.

 

[J-T]

Part 1 of a 2 Part Post:

I have not found one single part of Tai Chi that could possibly be considered demonic, or of the devil.

It really comes down to believing God and what He wrote in The Holy Bible. I can already see that there are at least two people on here that don't care about what is written in the Bible. True to 2Peter 2:1, there are false teachers among us, and true to 2Timothy 4:1-5, there are people with itching ears that have and are heaping teachers to themselves to have their ears tickled, as they give heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, true to 1Timothy 4:1-2.

It is a matter of fact that martial arts originate with worship of idols, and I stated very plainly that these are rituals used to invite devils (demons) in for possessions, and so forth, and that in the world of the Occult, that is precisely what they do, and that these demonic practices were brought in to teach and seduce The Lord Jesus Christ's servants to turn their backs away from Him, and instead to the Devil. People that give heed to these things can't see that by doing so, that their hearts are becoming hardened and that they have been taken captive by the Devil, and have become confused and deceived by the lusts of the flesh.

Today is the day to repent. The world is in the process of being taken totally captive, and the News Headlines alone are confirmation of this reality as Illuminati Socialists have gained key positions in Governments world-wide for the purpose of their "New World Order" as they use the C-19 virus as their tool to instill fear into the masses and subdue them, while their counter-parts enact Anarchy (which is also Illuminati) in major cities around the world.

There is another lesson to learn. Among all of the fear mongering videos of the News Media, world-wide, they have showed where thousands of bodies have been dumped into mass graves. Death is inevitable, and no one is going to get out of this world alive, that is, unless they are faithful Christians that have been born again, that will be called up to meet The Lord. But the unfaithful, that don't die first, will face the New World Order which will in fact be the Great Tribulation. But the point here is that after death, people will either go to heaven, or be taken to hell to await judgement. The question should be, why would anyone want to flirt with hell when the Bible clearly teaches against the sin of idoloatry, of which is what martial arts and Yoga is? They both originate with worship of idols, right along with Tai Chi, as it is from the false religion known as Taoism.

Here's a little bit of info about the fact that it is an antichrist religion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoism

"Today, the Taoist tradition is one of the five religious doctrines officially recognised by the People's Republic of China.[6] It is also a major religion in Taiwan,[7] and claims adherents in a number of other societies,[8] in particular in Hong Kong, Macau, and Southeast Asia."

Also, check out this link:

https://www.ancient.eu/Taoism/

This is another clear example of their antichrist doctrines of devils;

"Taoism is therefore both a philosophy and a religion. It emphasizes doing what is natural and "going with the flow" in accordance with the Tao (or Dao), a cosmic force which flows through all things and binds and releases them.

The philosophy grew from an observance of the natural world, and the religion developed out of a belief in cosmic balance maintained and regulated by the Tao. The original belief may or may not have included practices such as ancestor and spirit worship but both of these principles are observed by many Taoists today and have been for centuries.

Taoism exerted a great influence during the Tang Dynasty (618-907 CE) and the emperor Xuanzong (reigned 712-756 CE) decreed it a state religion, mandating that people keep Taoist writings in their home. It fell out of favor as the Tang Dynasty declined and was replaced by Confucianism and Buddhism but the religion is still practiced throughout China and other countries today."

This is an idol that they worship .... As you can see, this is forbidden in the Bible, and this evil is what is leading many people to hell: (Read 1Corinthians 10:20-22, 2Corinthians 6:14-28, and Matthew 7:13-27 for a start, and if you want, download e-Sword at www.e-sword.net and do a word search on idol/idols/abomination/abominations and review the Ten Commandments in Exodus 20).

 

[J-T]

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I have not found one single part of Tai Chi that could possibly be considered demonic, or of the devil.

Here are a couple of links per the origin of Tai Chi: (Understand that there are many variations of definitions of Yin Yang, but I will tell you that in the world of the Illuminati, it is the antichrist sharing of the darkness with the light that is contradictary to what is written in 2Corinthians 6:14-18, and the Devil worshipping Satanists have this practices learned.);

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi

What antichrist temple do you suppose this is of? What does God say about the "high places"?

Yeah, it's just like Yoga;

"Tai chi training involves five elements, taolu (solo hand and weapons routines/forms), neigong and qigong (breathing, movement and awareness exercises and meditation), tuishou (response drills) and sanshou (self defense techniques). While tai chi is typified by some for its slow movements, many styles (including the three most popular: Yang, Wu and Chen) have secondary forms with faster pace. Some traditional schools teach partner exercises known as tuishou ("pushing hands"), and martial applications of the postures of different forms (taolu).

In China, tai chi is categorized under the Wudang grouping of Chinese martial arts[2]—that is, the arts applied with internal power.[3] Although the term Wudang suggests these arts originated in the Wudang Mountains, it is simply used to distinguish the skills, theories and applications of neijia (internal arts) from those of the Shaolin grouping, or waijia (hard or external) styles.[4]"

Here's the other link:

https://taichiforhealthinstitute.org/history-of-tai-chi-2/


By the way, the "Book of Changes" is an Occult book.

"Introduction

Tai Chi, also known as Shadow Boxing, is one of the major branches of the traditional Chinese martial arts. Its name is derived from the philosophical term, “Tai Chi,” the first known written reference of which appeared in the Book of Changes over 3000 years ago during the Zhou Dynasty (1100-1221 BC). In this book it says that “in all changes exists Tai Chi, which causes the two opposites in everything.” Tai Chi means the ultimate of ultimate, often used to describe the vastness of the universe.

The essential principles of Tai Chi are based on the ancient Chinese philosophy of Taoism, which stresses the natural balance in all things and the need for living in spiritual and physical accord with the patterns of nature. According to this philosophy, everything is composed of two opposite, but entirely complementary, elements of yin and yang, working in a relationship which is in perpetual balance. Tai Chi consists of exercises equally balanced between yin and yang, which is why it is so remarkably effective.

Yin and yang are polar opposites and are found in all things in life. In nature, everything tends toward a natural state of harmony. Likewise, yin and yang are always in total balance. Concepts such as soft, pliant, yielding and feminine are associated with yin, while concepts such as hard, rigid and masculine are associated with yang. Both sides complement each other completely and together form a perfect whole. Things which are perfectly balanced and in harmony are at peace; being at peace leads naturally to longevity. A perfectly harmonised person will show this balance and completeness by his or her tranquillity and peacefulness of mind."

Can it be any more obvious that this?

"The Beginning
It is almost impossible to separate Chinese martial art history from legend. Legends hold interesting and useful messages; thus, I will share some with you.The real origins of Tai Chi are obscure. The more romantic and mystical accounts date back as far as the 15th, 12th or even the 8th century. One legendary figure, Zhang Shanfeng, was a famous Taoist priest in the 15th century. He was believed to possess super-human ability and immense internal power.
Less romantic, but more reliably sourced, accounts of Tai Chi, date back to Chen Wangting, a 16th century Royal Guard of the Chen village in Wenxian County, Henan Province. After retiring from the army, he was drawn to the teachings of Taoism, which led him to a simple life of farming, studying and teaching martial arts."

Will you repent? Read Revelation 2:14-29

 

[SarahUmbreon]

Part 2 of a 2 Part Post:


Here are a couple of links per the origin of Tai Chi: (Understand that there are many variations of definitions of Yin Yang, but I will tell you that in the world of the Illuminati, it is the antichrist sharing of the darkness with the light that is contradictary to what is written in 2Corinthians 6:14-18, and the Devil worshipping Satanists have this practices learned.);

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi

What antichrist temple do you suppose this is of? What does God say about the "high places"?

Yeah, it's just like Yoga;

"Tai chi training involves five elements, taolu (solo hand and weapons routines/forms), neigong and qigong (breathing, movement and awareness exercises and meditation), tuishou (response drills) and sanshou (self defense techniques). While tai chi is typified by some for its slow movements, many styles (including the three most popular: Yang, Wu and Chen) have secondary forms with faster pace. Some traditional schools teach partner exercises known as tuishou ("pushing hands"), and martial applications of the postures of different forms (taolu).

In China, tai chi is categorized under the Wudang grouping of Chinese martial arts[2]—that is, the arts applied with internal power.[3] Although the term Wudang suggests these arts originated in the Wudang Mountains, it is simply used to distinguish the skills, theories and applications of neijia (internal arts) from those of the Shaolin grouping, or waijia (hard or external) styles.[4]"

Here's the other link:

https://taichiforhealthinstitute.org/history-of-tai-chi-2/


By the way, the "Book of Changes" is an Occult book.

"Introduction

Tai Chi, also known as Shadow Boxing, is one of the major branches of the traditional Chinese martial arts. Its name is derived from the philosophical term, “Tai Chi,” the first known written reference of which appeared in the Book of Changes over 3000 years ago during the Zhou Dynasty (1100-1221 BC). In this book it says that “in all changes exists Tai Chi, which causes the two opposites in everything.” Tai Chi means the ultimate of ultimate, often used to describe the vastness of the universe.

The essential principles of Tai Chi are based on the ancient Chinese philosophy of Taoism, which stresses the natural balance in all things and the need for living in spiritual and physical accord with the patterns of nature. According to this philosophy, everything is composed of two opposite, but entirely complementary, elements of yin and yang, working in a relationship which is in perpetual balance. Tai Chi consists of exercises equally balanced between yin and yang, which is why it is so remarkably effective.

Yin and yang are polar opposites and are found in all things in life. In nature, everything tends toward a natural state of harmony. Likewise, yin and yang are always in total balance. Concepts such as soft, pliant, yielding and feminine are associated with yin, while concepts such as hard, rigid and masculine are associated with yang. Both sides complement each other completely and together form a perfect whole. Things which are perfectly balanced and in harmony are at peace; being at peace leads naturally to longevity. A perfectly harmonised person will show this balance and completeness by his or her tranquillity and peacefulness of mind."

Can it be any more obvious that this?

"The Beginning
It is almost impossible to separate Chinese martial art history from legend. Legends hold interesting and useful messages; thus, I will share some with you.The real origins of Tai Chi are obscure. The more romantic and mystical accounts date back as far as the 15th, 12th or even the 8th century. One legendary figure, Zhang Shanfeng, was a famous Taoist priest in the 15th century. He was believed to possess super-human ability and immense internal power.
Less romantic, but more reliably sourced, accounts of Tai Chi, date back to Chen Wangting, a 16th century Royal Guard of the Chen village in Wenxian County, Henan Province. After retiring from the army, he was drawn to the teachings of Taoism, which led him to a simple life of farming, studying and teaching martial arts."

Will you repent? Read Revelation 2:14-29

I repent daily, for we live in a fallen world and will never be perfect. The only perfect one was Jesus. We don’t deserve what God has done for us, but he did it anyway because he loves us.

I struggle to remember to pray every night, but it doesn’t mean I’m a Christian, that’s just a area of my life I need to work. But hey, what do I know, I’m just a random Asperger’s syndrome woman on the Internet, my opinion is nothing but a “speck of rice”. I like my opinion, but I don’t want to have opinions that would cause others to hate themselves. Yes I know the world we live in hates the Bible and my views on how much I think homosexuality/non-binary is bad will cause people to hate me, this much I know. But I will not change and just hope through “Being able to peacefully agree to disagree”, we can live in Peace, I can tell everyone about God, and I do, as a way to get them thinking, but it’s God who decides if the seeds planted will let that person become a Christian or not. God takes the bad stuff to give him glory, just as much as he does with the good stuff.

 

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Here are a couple of links per the origin of Tai Chi: (Understand that there are many variations of definitions of Yin Yang, but I will tell you that in the world of the Illuminati, it is the antichrist sharing of the darkness with the light that is contradictary to what is written in 2Corinthians 6:14-18, and the Devil worshipping Satanists have this practices learned.);

I believe the problem is: You are speaking of people who practice Martial Arts as their religion. I practice Tai Chi as a form of physical exercise, just as jogging, weight lifting, or various other exercises provide physical benefit.

If someone practices for the purpose of religious enlightenment, then I agree with your assessment. However, I would suspect that all types of physical exercise have a pagan origin. After all it was pagans who came up with the Olympics. If we go by your statements, than any who participate in or aspire to participate in the Olympics are sinning, right? This would also cascade down to Baseball, Football, Basketball, Golf, or any other Sport where physical exercise is required would it not?