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Truth7t7

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How many times have we been lied to? We've been told many times that Roe V Wade would be overthrown. I seriously doubt that it will.
Even Given Moderate Justice Roberts Votes With The Liberals, It's A 5/4 Win.

Justices: Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, And I Believe Barrett?

All Pro-Life Justices, And Historical Record"s
To Prove It.
 

Billyd

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Promises Made, Promises Kept

Justices: Alito, Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, And I Believe Barrett?

All Pro-Life Justices, And Historical Record"s
To Prove It.
Thomas was already there.

To SCOTUS pro life really means nothing. There is enough "settled law" for them to weasel out of overturning it. Roe v Wade will still be the law of the land when we go home to be with the Lord.
 

Truth7t7

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Thomas was already there.

To SCOTUS pro life really means nothing. There is enough "settled law" for them to weasel out of overturning it. Roe v Wade will still be the law of the land when we go home to be with the Lord.
After a little research, it would strongly appear moderate (John Roberts) would be on the Pro-Life court?

(Jane Sullivan Roberts) John's wife was a board member and attorney representing (Feminist For Life) a Pro-Life group, another notable member Alaska's Sarah Palin

Conclusion: It's my very strong opinion that it's a future 6/3 vote in overturning Roe V. Wade, 14th Amendment in the (Personhood) of the unborn.

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A culture in which parents are respected, whether they decide to stay at home or return to work.
 

Truth7t7

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The next few weeks should prove to be very interesting with the drama over the Supreme Court vacancy, the first presidential debate in a week, and the remaining days left leading up to Nov 3.
I agree, they could go (pay-per-view) and outdo ratings that the NFL and NBA currently have.

Mitch Mcconnell and Lindsey Graham have openly stated they have the votes to confirm the nomination

The democrats will be given a 7-10 in hearing cry, cry, cry, and then it's a call to vote.

Mitch McConnel is going to ram this nomination through Godspeed!
 

Truth7t7

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Evil rules when there aren't enough to walk in righteousness, He gave us dominion, we got the government we deserved.
Now there is a remnant who are rising up in fervent and effectual prayer, we are either part of the solution or part of the problem.
Voting Trump/Pence 2020 Is The Solution!
 

Roughsoul1991

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There is a lot happening and even through the violence, terrorism, lies and every effort to squash the movement to return to the morals and values that are of God's design. We keep seeing moments that show God is working amidst the evil.
 

Truth7t7

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There is a lot happening and even through the violence, terrorism, lies and every effort to squash the movement to return to the morals and values that are of God's design. We keep seeing moments that show God is working amidst the evil.
I agree 100%

I really didn't think Ginsburg would die in time for a nomination and confirmation, she had the best Doctors money could buy, God had different plans.

It's going to be a 6/3 Conservative Court, with John Roberts a Pro-Life moderate.

I see Roe V. Wade (Abortion) and Obergefell V. Hodges (Same Sex Marriage) being reversed in 1-2 years

All the public school mandated training regarding (Homosexuality) reversed.

School choice through Vouchers, a big change!

China's influence being cut off, companies and jobs returning.

Renegotiated NAFTA, a win, win.

Riots, Looting, And Chaos in the Democratic run city streets, is a (BIG) campaign ad for President Trump's re-election.

Trump/Pence 2020
 

shittim

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He is continuing His plan to redeem mankind and His creation to Him, and it will be complete. The war is already won, there are only battles the adversary will lose.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I agree 100%

I really didn't think Ginsburg would die in time for a nomination and confirmation, she had the best Doctors money could buy, God had different plans.

It's going to be a 6/3 Conservative Court, with John Roberts a Pro-Life moderate.

I see Roe V. Wade (Abortion) and Obergefell V. Hodges (Same Sex Marriage) being reversed in 1-2 years

All the public school mandated training regarding (Homosexuality) reversed.

School choice through Vouchers, a big change!

China's influence being cut off, companies and jobs returning.

Renegotiated NAFTA, a win, win.

Riots, Looting, And Chaos in the Democratic run city streets, is a (BIG) campaign ad for President Trump's re-election.

Trump/Pence 2020
The biggest need will be if the election will need court decision just like it did under Bush. This completely throws a rock into their plan to rig the election.
 

shittim

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it's all in the Lords Plans, as we stay in fervent effectual prayer for His Plan to go forward he will continue to unfold His Victory.
Blessings
 

Truth7t7

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The biggest need will be if the election will need court decision just like it did under Bush. This completely throws a rock into their plan to rig the election.
I agree 100%< the greatest republican outcome of the nomination and confirmation, SCOTUS hearing the very likely event of (Intentional Mass Voter Fraud) you can add Obama Care to this list also

The democrats are in a no win situation, 30 years into their liberal agenda, it's being undone in less than four years, and your seeing their knowing pain before your eyes, desperation to keep the evil going.

Can't wait for the confirmation and swearing in, I been waiting decades to see this moment, a 6/3 Conservative Court, "WOW"!
 
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Hmm, that’s awfully strange...anyways...it means: You’ll learn quickly. Keep in mind that us folks who descend from Sweden are starting to speak Swedish instantly.
My uncles wife is Danish. She's a very direct person. You either love her or hate her. lol She's a wonderful cook but I've never had any dishes from her homeland. She's a hoot though if you can take her forwardness.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I agree 100%< the greatest republican outcome of the nomination and confirmation, SCOTUS hearing the very likely event of (Intentional Mass Voter Fraud) you can add Obama Care to this list also

The democrats are in a no win situation, 30 years into their liberal agenda, it's being undone in less than four years, and your seeing their knowing pain before your eyes, desperation to keep the evil going.

Can't wait for the confirmation and swearing in, I been waiting decades to see this moment, a 6/3 Conservative Court, "WOW"!
Yep, they are basically telling everyone they are out of peaceful options and are calling for complete corruption of the courts, Congress, and executive. Tyranny overload or violence and destruction. That is what we are hearing. These next few months or even years may be the hardest but if we wish to honor God, save our country, defend liberty, justice, life, property, and prosperity then if evil will not back away, at some point we must stand and say enough is enough. I believe we are starting to see that with the American people.
 

Truth7t7

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Yep, they are basically telling everyone they are out of peaceful options and are calling for complete corruption of the courts, Congress, and executive. Tyranny overload or violence and destruction. That is what we are hearing. These next few months or even years may be the hardest but if we wish to honor God, save our country, defend liberty, justice, life, property, and prosperity then if evil will not back away, at some point we must stand and say enough is enough. I believe we are starting to see that with the American people.
The vast majority of Americans want law and order, something the democrats aren't providing.

It's the vast minority that the media blows up to be a massive Goliath, that in reality is like the Wizard of Oz, who ended up being a little guy behind the big curtain :)

A large part of the thugs seen in the protests, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, New York, Etc they fly around the country doing this, I believe George Soros is paying the bill?

What more can President Trump ask for in a Campaign Ad, than to have these Democratic cities and States, run around in chaos with blessings from the Mayor's and Governors.

The democrats lost at least 20% of their base in the past 3-6 months, citizens are fleeing these cities and States.

Registered democrats own businesses, go out to eat at restaurants, that these thugs have looted, burnt, and disrupted.

The only way the democrats can claim victory in Nov is by (Voter Fraud), you think a hide in the basement Biden, and a smoke your dope Harris is gonna cross the finish line on fair grounds?
 

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I really didn't think Ginsburg would die in time for a nomination and confirmation, she had the best Doctors money could buy, God had different plans.
Correct. But look at this -- the Left has made Ginsburg an icon and a saint:

September 27, 2020
The Canonization of Saint Ruth Bader Ginsburg
By Fay Voshell

Anyone who watched the lines of people who paid their respects to Ruth Bader Ginsburg as she lay in state at the Supreme Court would have noticed a peculiar atmosphere. The reactions of those filing past her coffin went far beyond ordinary, quiet, and respectful homage to the dead. Women and little girls were kneeling down before her, offering prayerful salutes and shedding tears of grief and rage. Some were almost hysterical.

Once again, it's clear that the left is deeply religious. Be it the elevation of Greta Thunberg to the status of St. Joan of Arc; the high reverence accorded Al Gore, the prophet of doom whose declamations have rivaled those of St. John's pronouncements in the book of Revelation; or now the late Justice Ginsburg, it is apparent that the left has a religious need for saints as surely as any Christian church.

Now already elevated above her mortal status as a judge on the bench of the Supreme Court, Ginsburg is seated in the pantheon of the left. Even her final words, in which she apparently expressed a wish that her replacement not be nominated until after the election, are as authoritative as scripture to devotees such as Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, who believes that the oracular pronouncements of an "icon" of the left are to supersede the directives of America's constitution.

After the memorials in her honor are complete, Ginsburg doubtless will be accorded hagiographies. What is perhaps more troubling than the accordance of sainthood on the former justice by the left are the obsequies of Christians and others who have almost fought one another in conferring honors on a person who was unalterably and ferociously opposed to everything Christianity once stood for without apology: the sacredness of every human life, the sanctity of marriage, the biological distinctions of the sexes, and the integrity of the Church.

Typical of the accolades heaped on her by even the religious are the praises offered by Erika Bachiochi in her article "What I Will Teach My Children about Ruth Bader Ginsburg." Bachiochi separated Ginsburg's personal life from her judicial decisions, praising her for "her noble vision for caregiving" as exemplified by her tender regard for her husband of 56 years.

But as the redoubtable and indefatigable Phyllis Schlafly pointed out in her article appearing in Human Events in 2005, no matter how tender the late justice's caregiving, what Ginsburg stood for as a legal scholar and justice of the Supreme Court was a radical leftist's wish list for America....

Ginsburg listed hundreds of 'sexist' words that must be eliminated from all statutes. Among words she found offensive were: man, woman, manmade, mankind, husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, serviceman, longshoreman, postmaster, watchman, seamanship, and 'to man' a vessel[.] ... She even wanted he, she, him, her, his, and hers to be dropped down the memory hole. They must be replaced by he/she, her/him, and hers/his, and federal statutes must use the bad grammar of plural constructions to avoid third person singular pronouns.

Not only did Ginsburg pass former President Bill Clinton's litmus test of being pro-abortion, (she even supported partial birth abortion) but she was also on record as opposing what was then settled law that the Constitution does not compel taxpayers to pay for abortions. In her chapter in a 1980 book, Constitutional Government in America, she condemned the Supreme Court's ruling in Harris v. McRae and claimed that taxpayer-funded abortions should be a constitutional right.

Considering just how radical Ginsburg's stances and decisions were, what are we to make of Christians' praise and support for her? Why are conservatives, religious or not, putting wreaths on Ginsburg's head? The fact is that in place of Christian virtues, too many conservatives have substituted the progressive virtue of "tolerance."

The hallmark of secular progressive religion has also become the defining virtue of the Christian/conservative community. The drive to appear "nice" and inoffensive, to "understand' the other viewpoint, no matter how offensive or prurient, has vitiated the Judeo/Christian virtues of justice and righteousness; of steadfast opposition to evil.

The progressive idea of virtue has won over the truth, including the truth of what Ginsburg and her feminist acolytes devotedly believe in — most avidly and ferociously, the progressive sacrament of abortion. Ginsburg never, ever wavered from her advocacy of abortion. Never....

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/the_canonization_of_saint_ruth_bader_ginsburg.html
 

Truth7t7

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Correct. But look at this -- the Left has made Ginsburg an icon and a saint:

September 27, 2020
The Canonization of Saint Ruth Bader Ginsburg
By Fay Voshell

Anyone who watched the lines of people who paid their respects to Ruth Bader Ginsburg as she lay in state at the Supreme Court would have noticed a peculiar atmosphere. The reactions of those filing past her coffin went far beyond ordinary, quiet, and respectful homage to the dead. Women and little girls were kneeling down before her, offering prayerful salutes and shedding tears of grief and rage. Some were almost hysterical.

Once again, it's clear that the left is deeply religious. Be it the elevation of Greta Thunberg to the status of St. Joan of Arc; the high reverence accorded Al Gore, the prophet of doom whose declamations have rivaled those of St. John's pronouncements in the book of Revelation; or now the late Justice Ginsburg, it is apparent that the left has a religious need for saints as surely as any Christian church.

Now already elevated above her mortal status as a judge on the bench of the Supreme Court, Ginsburg is seated in the pantheon of the left. Even her final words, in which she apparently expressed a wish that her replacement not be nominated until after the election, are as authoritative as scripture to devotees such as Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, who believes that the oracular pronouncements of an "icon" of the left are to supersede the directives of America's constitution.

After the memorials in her honor are complete, Ginsburg doubtless will be accorded hagiographies. What is perhaps more troubling than the accordance of sainthood on the former justice by the left are the obsequies of Christians and others who have almost fought one another in conferring honors on a person who was unalterably and ferociously opposed to everything Christianity once stood for without apology: the sacredness of every human life, the sanctity of marriage, the biological distinctions of the sexes, and the integrity of the Church.

Typical of the accolades heaped on her by even the religious are the praises offered by Erika Bachiochi in her article "What I Will Teach My Children about Ruth Bader Ginsburg." Bachiochi separated Ginsburg's personal life from her judicial decisions, praising her for "her noble vision for caregiving" as exemplified by her tender regard for her husband of 56 years.

But as the redoubtable and indefatigable Phyllis Schlafly pointed out in her article appearing in Human Events in 2005, no matter how tender the late justice's caregiving, what Ginsburg stood for as a legal scholar and justice of the Supreme Court was a radical leftist's wish list for America....

Ginsburg listed hundreds of 'sexist' words that must be eliminated from all statutes. Among words she found offensive were: man, woman, manmade, mankind, husband, wife, mother, father, sister, brother, son, daughter, serviceman, longshoreman, postmaster, watchman, seamanship, and 'to man' a vessel[.] ... She even wanted he, she, him, her, his, and hers to be dropped down the memory hole. They must be replaced by he/she, her/him, and hers/his, and federal statutes must use the bad grammar of plural constructions to avoid third person singular pronouns.

Not only did Ginsburg pass former President Bill Clinton's litmus test of being pro-abortion, (she even supported partial birth abortion) but she was also on record as opposing what was then settled law that the Constitution does not compel taxpayers to pay for abortions. In her chapter in a 1980 book, Constitutional Government in America, she condemned the Supreme Court's ruling in Harris v. McRae and claimed that taxpayer-funded abortions should be a constitutional right.

Considering just how radical Ginsburg's stances and decisions were, what are we to make of Christians' praise and support for her? Why are conservatives, religious or not, putting wreaths on Ginsburg's head? The fact is that in place of Christian virtues, too many conservatives have substituted the progressive virtue of "tolerance."

The hallmark of secular progressive religion has also become the defining virtue of the Christian/conservative community. The drive to appear "nice" and inoffensive, to "understand' the other viewpoint, no matter how offensive or prurient, has vitiated the Judeo/Christian virtues of justice and righteousness; of steadfast opposition to evil.

The progressive idea of virtue has won over the truth, including the truth of what Ginsburg and her feminist acolytes devotedly believe in — most avidly and ferociously, the progressive sacrament of abortion. Ginsburg never, ever wavered from her advocacy of abortion. Never....

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/the_canonization_of_saint_ruth_bader_ginsburg.html
Beyond a radical leftist wish list, a murderer, pure evil.

Everybody is silent on who she really was, kill the unborn (Abortion), and same sex marriage (Homosexuality), beyond Sodom and Gomorrah.
 

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Beyond a radical leftist wish list, a murderer, pure evil.

Everybody is silent on who she really was, kill the unborn (Abortion), and same sex marriage (Homosexuality), beyond Sodom and Gomorrah.
She was Jewish and denied Christ. Her eternal repose is most tragic. Many of those who adore her will partake of the same eternal destiny. Tragic.

For the cause of Christ
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If abortion is made illegal, but women continue to have illegal abortions, should the women go to prison? Should there be a punishment?
 

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If abortion is made illegal, but women continue to have illegal abortions, should the women go to prison? Should there be a punishment?
There should but G-d will judge them. Let us hope they repent.