Today’s church’s misunderstandings
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Were those 10 books written by SDA's? So you will go with the body of evidence out of the mouth of many witnesses, huh? 
https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday.htm
https://www.bible.ca/H-sunday.htm
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well I am not really caring that she is a women and 96. Many on the CC have a false narrative about who they say they are, and being women and 96 is not going to stop an opinion or control at narrative that is unbiblical. If her condition is as she says I hope and pray she is receiving the help she needs. most elderly don't use their age or gender to stifle a person who disagrees with them.
Blik said
"What a judgment you are making of me personally for speaking of what scripture says. In my defense of myself, I am 96, in a wheelchair, and housebound. There is no way for me to get to any church. I went to Sunday church because that is when my church met. This is besides the point of what God is saying. You are sinning by judging me, it is only the Lord to judge. You are bringing up my personal walk with the Lord, and that has nothing to do with the subject of what God is saying to us."
This is false this statement by blink. in Addition the name only says member not age or gender. You have to go and look at their status to get that information. How can I be making a judgement about them when I have not the information or knowledge of who they are?
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Your understanding is wrong
We can’t just read the NT without understanding the old. If we do it we will miss what is really happening in the NT.
Example, the woman that was brought to Jesus for committing adultery. He didn’t pick up a stone to kill her. According to the law of Moses she should have been killed! So why did Jesus do something that was perceived as opposing the law?
The previous day before the Pharisees brought the woman to him, Jesus told everyone he is the one they have been waiting for. They rejected him.
The very next day the Pharisees tried to corner him and ask him about Torah, but He teaches them out of Torah. He never opposed Torah.
They asked him what to do to this lady and he quoted Torah to them:
Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
So first of all they only brought him the woman and not the man, and then very importantly He quoted Torah again by saying you without sin cast the first stone, quoting Deuteronomy 19 verses 16-19.
Deu 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
Deu 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
Deu 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
Deu 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
According to Torah they were bearing false witness and it was on them. Jesus was teaching Torah and we should be careful to judge as we are bringing curses on ourselves if we bear false witness.
After everybody left he said to her to sin no more. He didn’t tell her to not keep Torah my friend.
We can’t just read the NT without understanding the old. If we do it we will miss what is really happening in the NT.
Example, the woman that was brought to Jesus for committing adultery. He didn’t pick up a stone to kill her. According to the law of Moses she should have been killed! So why did Jesus do something that was perceived as opposing the law?
The previous day before the Pharisees brought the woman to him, Jesus told everyone he is the one they have been waiting for. They rejected him.
The very next day the Pharisees tried to corner him and ask him about Torah, but He teaches them out of Torah. He never opposed Torah.
They asked him what to do to this lady and he quoted Torah to them:
Lev 20:10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
So first of all they only brought him the woman and not the man, and then very importantly He quoted Torah again by saying you without sin cast the first stone, quoting Deuteronomy 19 verses 16-19.
Deu 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
Deu 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
Deu 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
Deu 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
According to Torah they were bearing false witness and it was on them. Jesus was teaching Torah and we should be careful to judge as we are bringing curses on ourselves if we bear false witness.
After everybody left he said to her to sin no more. He didn’t tell her to not keep Torah my friend.
Guess you assume we have not read the Old Testament? And your example of Jesus and the rock isn unbiblical and out of context
Did Jesus do what you suggested?
Example, the woman that was brought to Jesus for committing adultery. He didn’t pick up a stone to kill her. According to the law of Moses she should have been killed! So why did Jesus do something that was perceived as opposing the law?
As you go on to explain your point. Yet you failed to explain those very pharisees were not keeping the law they taught to other AS Jesus made very clear inMatthew 23 read it. Secondly Those who are in Christ are free from the law which Jesus said and Paul those who keep the law must KEEP all of it. Are you are to do that in yourself? If you can why does one need Christ>? Oh for givenness so you can keep at law that you broke before to only break another and ask forgiveness? Are you Justified by the law? Was it the Law who saved you? Read Gal 5. and Rom 6-8
And go back and read How Abraham did not have the law and how his obedience was counted to him as righteousness with God. Now we are to be Obedient to Christ. Abraham was justified before he was Circumcised and before the law and Paul addressed to which he was more obedient to the law than you or I.
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Sunday pushers do not go by scripture, there is no scripture declaring Sunday as Sabbath, there is scripture declaring Saturday as Sabbath. I would rather go by scripture.
Man calls Saturday the day of worshipping Saturn, and Sunday as the day of worshipping the sun. The Lord looks at our hearts. What do you call these days in your heart? Do you believe God when he declared the seventh day a Sabbath, or do you believe the seventh day is the day of Saturn?
Man calls Saturday the day of worshipping Saturn, and Sunday as the day of worshipping the sun. The Lord looks at our hearts. What do you call these days in your heart? Do you believe God when he declared the seventh day a Sabbath, or do you believe the seventh day is the day of Saturn?
i believe that Jesus rose on sun, not the jewish Sabbath, and early Christians began to meet early on sun. morning , as the N.T. says.
you are wrong in the fact that rome instituted sun. worship in the 300's.
as i have said above, roman governor pliny the younger attested to this in 112 a.d.
you and i had a polite " agree to disagree" in place, let's please honor that.
you are wrong in the fact that rome instituted sun. worship in the 300's.
as i have said above, roman governor pliny the younger attested to this in 112 a.d.
you and i had a polite " agree to disagree" in place, let's please honor that.
You do NOT have the "original greek"; You have never handled, touched, or seen the "original greek", and neither have your 'scholars'. It does NOT Exist!!
Show the PROOF! Show the EVIDENCE! Where is it? Is it on that swamp land that you have for sale in Arizona, Egypt?
Yet you can't provide one shred of evidence in a single post.
Should we be surprised? There are a lot of Quacks out there with a 'Ph.D.', such as Dr. Who Thunk It & Dr. Who Flunked It. A Ph.D is not a replacement for The Holy Ghost.
You're all talk and no action. You can't provide a single Bible verse to support your error.
This isn't the first that you have tattletaled to bear false witness against someone that has disagreed with you, and have called you out for your heresy. The truth is that you are a Charasmatic False Prophet, of which is easily proven:
>> HERE <<
Show the PROOF! Show the EVIDENCE! Where is it? Is it on that swamp land that you have for sale in Arizona, Egypt?
Yet you can't provide one shred of evidence in a single post.
Recently I finished studying the life of the New Testament Church for a Ph.D.
but despite this fact, I have been told by some that I don't know what I am talking about.
You're all talk and no action. You can't provide a single Bible verse to support your error.
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Sabbath pushers have not received the New Covenant. Gentiles never were under obligation to keep the law.
Christians and most of them were Jews at the time met on the first day of the week not on the Sabbath. In fact they were not welcome to worship on the Sabbath.
We worship every day of the week not one day alone. We gather for corporate worship one day of the week perhaps two depending on the assembly.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Christians and most of them were Jews at the time met on the first day of the week not on the Sabbath. In fact they were not welcome to worship on the Sabbath.
We worship every day of the week not one day alone. We gather for corporate worship one day of the week perhaps two depending on the assembly.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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one thing about blik
she pushes this Sabbath keeping over and over as has been said
she becomes old and alone when too many responses indicate she is trying to keep the law and the Bible does not agree with her viewpoint
so I don't know how old she is but I do know that comes up when a 'sympathy' post is warranted
done it to me a few times
so, you are either too young to be taken seriously, or too old to be called out on your errors
at any rate, this pony doesn't ride
she pushes this Sabbath keeping over and over as has been said
she becomes old and alone when too many responses indicate she is trying to keep the law and the Bible does not agree with her viewpoint
so I don't know how old she is but I do know that comes up when a 'sympathy' post is warranted
done it to me a few times
so, you are either too young to be taken seriously, or too old to be called out on your errors
at any rate, this pony doesn't ride