Calvinism and Context?

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jackrosie said:
Are you kidding...they actually believe that Jesus died









To increase our righteousness?
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To increase our Glory
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To increase our Worthiness?
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Did God need to have His righteousness increased?

Did God need to have His glory increased?

Did God need to increase His worthiness?

If not for us, then who did Christ die for?
 
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Bbrdrd said:
Did God need to have His righteousness increased?

Did God need to have His glory increased?

Did God need to increase His worthiness?

If not for us, then who did Christ die for?
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Amen and Thank you!!

Love is giving, some people cannot wrap their head around that I guess.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
Did God need to have His righteousness increased?

Did God need to have His glory increased?

Did God need to increase His worthiness?

If not for us, then who did Christ die for?
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Oh my word.....seriously.....you have got to be kidding me.

What happened to Adam..what did God breath into him,when he created him..then what happened?
 
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cv5 said:
I just summarized what I believe the last couple of posts. Probably in less than 50 words.

You can do the same but you refuse. I mean why let the cat out of the bag eh?
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jackrosie said:
You are kidding me....you don’t know....are you being serious?
You are toying....what happened?
I’ll give you a clue...God breathed..now you finish it..what did he breath into Adam?
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What does this have to do with Adam's disobedience... breath into Adam?
 
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Bbrdrd said:
It's quite telling that you're offended by the gospel.
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Are you kidding...I asked you a question about Adam and you couldn’t answer it....you swept biblical truth under your rug.

Tis you who can’t accept the word of God......Adam and Eve what happened?..that is biblical yet you ignore and are offended by that question.
 
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jackrosie said:
Are you kidding...I asked you a question about Adam and you couldn’t answer it....you swept biblical truth under your rug.

Tis you who can’t accept the word of God......Adam and Eve what happened?..that is biblical yet you ignore and are offended by that question.
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I'm not offended by the question, but your "you have got to be kidding" was far more interesting since what I had posted in the last post literally is a crucial piece of the gospel. Christ died, and was buried, and was resurrected for you. On account of your sin.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
Did God need to have His righteousness increased?

Did God need to have His glory increased?

Did God need to increase His worthiness?

If not for us, then who did Christ die for?
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Answer my post yes or no very simple. You can't and you won't.
You don't want to go there.
Yes means total depravity no means self-righteousness and works.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
I'm not offended by the question, but your "you have got to be kidding" was far more interesting since what I had posted in the last post literally is a crucial piece of the gospel. Christ died, and was buried, and was resurrected for you. On account of your sin.
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You took what I meant out of context..I was so shocked that you don't know what happened to Adam and Eve..that is why I said are you kidding.
Also your response to cv post that I quoted...I was absolutely shocked at what you replied.
 
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cv5 said:
Answer my post yes or no very simple. You can't and you won't.
You don't want to go there.
Yes means total depravity no means self-righteousness and works.
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I'm not sure which post you're refering to, but your dilemma is false. Unless of course you think when Peter called Lot righteous it was self-righteousness, or when Ezekiel relayed God saying Job, Lot, and Daniel were righteous enough to deliver themselves only it was self righteousness, or when God called Job "blameless and upright" it was self-righteousness.
 
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EleventhHour said:
You are trying to assume some superior biblical understanding, feel free, but I am not going to engage you.
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It's ok,blue of lake beat you to it...I am claiming no superior knowledge.im thick remember,I kind of like being thick.

But not when it comes to Gods word.
 
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jackrosie said:
You took what I meant out of context..I was so shocked that you don't know what happened to Adam and Eve..that is why I said are you kidding.
Also your response to cv post that I quoted...I was absolutely shocked at what you replied.
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How can I take what you mean out of context?

And that's exactly what I'm talking about, because the post you quoted is a partial presentation of the gospel, so if it shocks you you were shocked by the gospel.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
Did God need to have His righteousness increased?

Did God need to have His glory increased?

Did God need to increase His worthiness?

If not for us, then who did Christ die for?
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You are intentionally dodging responding to my post. Responding will blow away the smokescreen of self-righteousness you've raised.

God was not obligated to sacrifice his Son on our behalf. To provide us with His righteousness (not our righteousness!) His glory (not our glory) His worthiness (not our worthiness!) and Sonship.

You see the Bible is very clear: we had no righteousness, glory or worthiness. They had to be credited to our account, and even the faith to believe had to be provided.

It is all the work of God, a work outside ourselves, a work that glorifies God alone. We had no part in our own adoption, no participation, no parity, there was no negotiation between parties. God adopted us out of sheer pity and mercy and restored us to Sonship. And only He and the Son get all of the glory for this work.

Dig into do your Bible and you can confirm all of this.
 
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Bbrdrd said:
How can I take what you mean out of context?

And that's exactly what I'm talking about, because the post you quoted is a partial presentation of the gospel, so if it shocks you you were shocked by the gospel.
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You can wrap it up as much as you like...you ignored my question about Adam and Eve...my post was fine..blue of lake understood it.

My question is...why didn't you?

I was shocked by you not understanding it.
 
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