Calvinism and Context?
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I'm going to be very honest with you here.
Your endless questions your endless inquiries and your lack ability to answer them yourself coherently utilizing the Bible that's in front of you makes you sound like a very confused directionless individual.
These things that confuse you, these doctrines, these topics, these issues are quite frankly reconciled and resolved in MY mind to a kind of settled, resolute perfection that you don't really seem to be able to grasp, nor can you comprehend. No matter what I post no matter how much I post you don't get it.
Anyhoo, time for bed.
God bless y'all.
You've been anything but coherent, contradicting yourself multiple times over.
Yet you bluster about how deep your comprehension is, while offering nothing but dissonance and noise.
I don't "grasp" them because they are false and rather than illuminating the Bible the doctrines create confusion and contradiction. As I said earlier, they fail every test from logical consistency, to Biblical consistency, to historical presence, to moral acceptability.
I cannot think of a single value added by the doctrine that cause you to twist yourself into so many pretzels.
It's garbage. Absolute garbage.
Unfortunately, you have failed to enjoy the humor of that post. Nor the irony.
Please refer to my earlier post where I stated that Gods will shall inevitably subject and
sublimate all other wills in eternity future. Maybe then you will "get it".
But, since you brought it up.....yes, you are absolutely correct as far as my salvation is concerned.
I was elect before the foundation of the world. I had absolutely no say in the matter. How could I? It occurred in eternity past long before I was ever born.
And that, my dear sir, I assure you, is THE reason why I am what I am.
I for one am not prepared to call scripture "garbage".
However you may do so if you so choose.
We've been through this already please look at some of my earlier posts.
Have a blessed evening I'm tired it's time for bed.
Considering the disagreement between your testamony and the order of salvation given by the Bible 2 thessalonians 2:11 comes to mind from this post.
Not confused at all, it is only the one who perseveres until the end who is saved. So what confidence do you have you're part of the elect? Unless God has personally promised you that you're part of the elect you can't rely on God's promises. So how do you know you're part of the elect and not just under a temporary delusion?
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What part of my salvation is so confusing to you,?
2 Thessalonians 2:11 comes to mind to you...throw whatever you like at me.......I must stand on God’s truth.......my order of salvation came from God,.......which you clearly don’t understand,cv5 does,as do a few others on this site,,....
God knew me before I was born,God drew me to Jesus,he chose me,but as cv said...no offence,but you haven’t a clue what we are talking about,....and may I also say,your posts ( most) are clueless to me....
Flesh vs Spirit....how do you interpret that in the bible?
Quickening our Spirit....coming alive in Christ,born again......Only the Father can draw us to Jesus?
Are you denying that only the Father can draw us to the Jesus?
How were you drawn?
We’re you drawn?
How do you know you are a child of God?.
I have been absent a bit but have continued reading the forums.
May I just say threads are being locked by the mod bc of all the back and forth ya yaing.
A person's salvation event is THEIR own,no two people are alike in the aspects of life.
What a person believes God says to them through the word is how He wants them to see it at the time if they are led by the Spirit.
The word is sound,full of reproof,doctrine,conditions,blessings,promises and more to ALL who believe.
We can use it harshly or gently to help others. If it's harsh we push them away. Jesus was so gentle that children followed Him!
We are instructed to study the word God has set for us,being under the Holy Ghost as teacher.
If we are submitted to Him,He will not leave us in error.
Yes we are in a very serious battle but we are NOT each other's enemies,satan is the enemy,least we forget.
May I just say threads are being locked by the mod bc of all the back and forth ya yaing.
A person's salvation event is THEIR own,no two people are alike in the aspects of life.
What a person believes God says to them through the word is how He wants them to see it at the time if they are led by the Spirit.
The word is sound,full of reproof,doctrine,conditions,blessings,promises and more to ALL who believe.
We can use it harshly or gently to help others. If it's harsh we push them away. Jesus was so gentle that children followed Him!
We are instructed to study the word God has set for us,being under the Holy Ghost as teacher.
If we are submitted to Him,He will not leave us in error.
Yes we are in a very serious battle but we are NOT each other's enemies,satan is the enemy,least we forget.
Amen!.....His word is also alive and active...the Holy Spirit is a person....I think some forget that.....we have a Father ,Son/ daughter relationship with him.......
He knows our thoughts,everything,we can’t hide from God.....not that I want to....lol.
Good to see you back Joe.....
Ps,when a believer is harsh with me,it brings me closer to God and His Truth....but yes,I’m sure many would retreat into their shell......so we need to be gentle with them.
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