Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?

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Jackson123

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Roman Catholics are instructed to lie about the Jesuit oath ..
And some honest member don't know about this oath, we have to love them and tell the truth, who know they aware how satanic is their religion and come to the real Jesus. Some people believe to love mean to say that catholic is good, don't hurt their falling but sent them to hell

That is not love. I am not try to hurt their falling, I try to open their eyes to see that they religion is luciferian. Run from that bonded come to real Jesus and be save.

People that say catholic is Christian hate them, not love them, this people don't care If they go to hell forever with their religion
 
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ABSOLUTLY NOT!!!

JUDE 1:3.
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common Salvation, it was needful for me
to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith
which was once delivered unto the saints.

PS. 50:5.
Gather My saints together unto Me; those that have made a covenant with Me by sacrifice.
HEB. 11.
Commonly know as the Faith Chapter...
 

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And some honest member don't know about this oath, we have to love them and tell the truth, who know they aware how satanic is their religion and come to the real Jesus. Some people believe to love mean to say that catholic is good, don't hurt their falling but sent them to hell

That is not love. I am not try to hurt their falling, I try to open their eyes to see that they religion is luciferian. Run from that bonded come to real Jesus and be save.

People that say catholic is Christian hate them, not love them, this people don't care If they go to hell forever with their religion
I've met a few catholics who didn't push or even mention their pope, church and doctrines .. I met a couple at different revivals at various denomination churches during revivals and they worshipped the same as if they were part of the protestant church complete with speaking in tongues and very humble .. Another I took in my house as a stranger for 3 days and he was all Jesus too, never once brought up RCC doctrines but preaching faith in Jesus and ''you must be born again'' was all he talked about morning to night .. He had come from Pennsylvania to go out and witness with us and invite folks to our revival, he had had a deathbed revelation and miraculous healing from Jesus and he was on fire , like I mentioned he never once mentioned any RCC doctrine and a complete gentleman .. On the other hand I don't trust any catholic who defends the pope and the popes pagan roman church ..
 

Jackson123

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I've met a few catholics who didn't push or even mention their pope, church and doctrines .. I met a couple at different revivals at various denomination churches during revivals and they worshipped the same as if they were part of the protestant church complete with speaking in tongues and very humble .. Another I took in my house as a stranger for 3 days and he was all Jesus too, never once brought up RCC doctrines but preaching faith in Jesus and ''you must be born again'' was all he talked about morning to night .. He had come from Pennsylvania to go out and witness with us and invite folks to our revival, he had had a deathbed revelation and miraculous healing from Jesus and he was on fire , like I mentioned he never once mentioned any RCC doctrine and a complete gentleman .. On the other hand I don't trust any catholic who defends the pope and the popes pagan roman church ..
This fellow need one more step, run from purgatory doctrine and follow Jesus doctrine

They are born catholic, not easy to left, take time, like some muslim in my country, after have a dream or visions about Jesus, they not Convert oN the spot, take time some take 9 years, some only a week, some do next day.

My ex Imam neighbors have a dream about Jesus when he was junior high and Convert after he become vice president of the biggest muslim school in south east Asia.
 

bojack

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This fellow need one more step, run from purgatory doctrine and follow Jesus doctrine

They are born catholic, not easy to left, take time, like some muslim in my country, after have a dream or visions about Jesus, they not Convert oN the spot, take time some take 9 years, some only a week, some do next day.

My ex Imam neighbors have a dream about Jesus when he was junior high and Convert after he become vice president of the biggest muslim school in south east Asia.
I never heard the guy ever mention purgatory or any RCC doctrine and I don't believed he would because I'm convinced he didn't believe it any longer .. Why those folks remained connected to the RCC is beyond my thinking so I figured the lesson was for me .. I was born ready to war and still am .. I did learn to not treat all catholics with contempt and to see where each individual is coming from .. I am a fierce defender of the faith and consider myself full ''born again'' protestant .. The RCC has nothing to fear from me except truth although I believe they would destroy me any chance they get if they could.. As far as the RCC hierarchy goes , I don't believe they even believe what they teach for doctrines , it is a big moneymaking and control scam game, mystery Babylon, simony ..
 

bojack

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This fellow need one more step, run from purgatory doctrine and follow Jesus doctrine

They are born catholic, not easy to left, take time, like some muslim in my country, after have a dream or visions about Jesus, they not Convert oN the spot, take time some take 9 years, some only a week, some do next day.

My ex Imam neighbors have a dream about Jesus when he was junior high and Convert after he become vice president of the biggest muslim school in south east Asia.
I love to hear converted ''born again' Jews and Muslim who converted to Jesus testimony ..
 

Jackson123

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I never heard the guy ever mention purgatory or any RCC doctrine and I don't believed he would because I'm convinced he didn't believe it any longer .. Why those folks remained connected to the RCC is beyond my thinking so I figured the lesson was for me .. I was born ready to war and still am .. I did learn to not treat all catholics with contempt and to see where each individual is coming from .. I am a fierce defender of the faith and consider myself full ''born again'' protestant .. The RCC has nothing to fear from me except truth although I believe they would destroy me any chance they get if they could.. As far as the RCC hierarchy goes , I don't believe they even believe what they teach for doctrines , it is a big moneymaking and control scam game, mystery Babylon, simony ..
Yep RCC is big business

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But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment.” (

http://www.zubeidajaffer.co.za/the-catholic-church-is-the-biggest-financial-power-on-earth/
 

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As far as the RCC hierarchy goes , I don't believe they even believe what they teach for doctrines , it is a big moneymaking and control scam game, mystery Babylon, simony ..
And according to this article, federal reserve is belong to jesuit. Print money from thin air, loan It to us government and us tax payer pay the interest/tax that is why us government owe more then 20 trillions
The biggest robery ever.

http://www.expose1933.com/7-federal-reserve-exposed.html
 

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You don't believe The Jewish people believed in the same God as Jesus believed?
Since Jesus is God and the religious leaders of Israel refused to believe this, the Jews today do not believe in the same God as Christians -- Father, Son, and holy Spirit. Jesus is called the true God and Eternal Life in the Bible.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and Eternal Life. (1 John 5:20)
 

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"Garner also explains how the Jesuit's team of agents over the centuries have infiltrated every government and military organization that allow them to effect events like controlling the out-come of elections and the passage of illegal and frightening legislation like the NDAA (National Defense Authorization Act of 2013). How does this get passed by the US Senate with a unanimous 98-0 yes vote and then signed by the President of the United States so quickly?"
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From the Back Cover
President Abraham Lincoln hated the Jesuits:
"The Jesuits have not yet killed me. But they would have surely done it when I passed through their most devoted city, Baltimore, had I not defeated their plans, by passing incognito a few hours before they expected me . . . The Pope and the Jesuits, with their infernal Inquisition, are the only organized powers in the world which have recourse to the dagger of the assassin to murder those whom they cannot convince with their arguments or conquer with the sword . . . New projects of assassination are detected almost every day, accompanied with such savage circumstances, that they bring to my memory the massacre of St. Bartholomew and the Gunpowder Plot. Our investigation indicates that they come from the same masters in the act of murder, the Jesuits . . . So many plots have already been made against my life, that it is a real miracle that they have all failed, when we consider that the great majority of them were in the hands of skillful Roman Catholic murderers, evidently trained by Jesuits . . . The Jesuits are so expert in those deeds of blood that Henry IV said that it was impossible to escape them, and he became their victim, though he did all that could be done to protect himself. My escape from their hands, since the letter of the pope [Pope Pius IX] to Jeff Davis has sharpened a million of daggers to pierce my breast, would be more than a miracle."
About the Author
William Garner is a former scientist and US Army Airborne Ranger with C 1/75. He is now retired.
 
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Since Jesus is God and the religious leaders of Israel refused to believe this, the Jews today do not believe in the same God as Christians -- Father, Son, and holy Spirit. Jesus is called the true God and Eternal Life in the Bible.

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and Eternal Life. (1 John 5:20)
Natural reason is able to lead us to understanding God as One and Creator. When Paul teaches that God reveals Himself in the things He has made and because f that there are no excuses for not acknowledging Him.
That's the knowledge of God. There is only one creator. God reveals Himself in a universal way to everyone. If that isn't the same God as the one youbelieve in.....You didn't include that teaching into your view.
 

Jackson123

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Natural reason is able to lead us to understanding God as One and Creator. When Paul teaches that God reveals Himself in the things He has made and because f that there are no excuses for not acknowledging Him.
That's the knowledge of God. There is only one creator. God reveals Himself in a universal way to everyone. If that isn't the same God as the one youbelieve in.....You didn't include that teaching into your view.
Do you believe Paul accept Jesus because natural reasoning or his super natural vision?
 

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Knigh Colombus have similar oath with jesuit and knight Columbus is vatican alley
https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/...f-columbus-for-charity-devotion-to-peter.html

Can you imagine, catholic know kc oath and pope praise kc, what is behind all,of that gangster?
Yeah? So what? KoC are a Roman organization. Who'd a thunk that they would act like a Roman churchman. But that's not the point. The oath you posted is a well known forgery. Its not similar, its false. That's the rub .
 

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That's the knowledge of God. There is only one creator. God reveals Himself in a universal way to everyone. If that isn't the same God as the one youbelieve in.....You didn't include that teaching into your view.
After the coming of Christ, the knowledge of God as Creator is not enough. But the Jews and the Muslims were confronted with the fact that Jesus is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And both groups rejected that. Therefore there can be no "interfaith dialogue" unless it is a sham.

Indeed Mohammad was fully aware of the whole Bible. But he chose to pervert the truth. However Satan was actually behind the Koran.
 

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Yeah? So what? KoC are a Roman organization. Who'd a thunk that they would act like a Roman churchman. But that's not the point. The oath you posted is a well known forgery. Its not similar, its false. That's the rub .
That is secret oath, of course you don't know It and catholic say It is forger.
And why vatican alley with koc when they know koc have satanic oath?
It make me believe jesuit oath is not forger

Do you read what president Abraham Lincoln say about jesuit?
 

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Yeah? So what? KoC are a Roman organization. Who'd a thunk that they would act like a Roman churchman. But that's not the point. The oath you posted is a well known forgery. Its not similar, its false. That's the rub .
What do you mean by roman organization? Is koc part of rOman catholic church?
 
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Natural reason is able to lead us to understanding God as One and Creator. When Paul teaches that God reveals Himself in the things He has made and because f that there are no excuses for not acknowledging Him.

That's the knowledge of God. There is only one creator. God reveals Himself in a universal way to everyone. If that isn't the same God as the one you believe in.....You didn't include that teaching into your view.
When a person denies the authority of scripture (sola scriptura) our unseen Holy Father. They shoot themselves in the foot of the legion . They show they deny the commandment to call no man on earth Holy Father. One not seen is in heaven, again not a legion.

Corrupted mankind can plant the incorruptible born again seed But if God does no give his Spirit life nothing could be formed

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Corinthians 3:3-6 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

God reveals himself in a non universal way .Called the narrow way of faith Understanding coming from a unseen God.

First time shown in the new testament as the Nazarene sect or denomination . The way of the Catholic. . the law of the fathers the legion they tried to prove sola scriptura was a heresy And that they were venerable the law givers .

They walked away faithless still worshiping fathers (Legion) as if they were the un seen Holy Father in heaven . Both reformations (1st and 15th) restored the proper teaching master. . . all things written in the law and prophets . Not the Catholics book of their own law (CCC) as oral traditions of men.

Big difference between worshipping or venerating the fathers (legion 3500 patron saints ) as if they were God and worshiping the actual God of the fathers. One is led by the father of lies the spirit of error . He was a murderer from the beginning .

The other the Holy Spirit of our father. It works in those who do get under the hearing of scripture (sola scriptura)

The reformations reformed that to the proper governments as it is written . Those who do not call men on earth heavenly fathers. They hear his understanding of faith and are empowered to do it with all their new born again spirit and heart.

Catholisicim a dark place in need of the light of the gospel .

Which teaching master is the question. Of men or of God?
 
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The oldest Christian faith is belief in the truth. The original doctrine of the New Testament is the Pauline Doctrine of Justification Solely by Faith.
This doctrine was abolished about 300 years after the death of the last apostle.
God sends them out two by two .They are still here and will be till the last day. Abel was the first, first martyr also.