The End, the A.C., Revelation and the rest of it.

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Ahwatukee

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It is usually typical that those who know nothing about end-time events to disagree by giving a thumbs down, without any scripture to back it up. They're just protecting the false teachings that they have adopted. What I have listed above is the truth according to all releated scriptures.
Hello DWR! Don't be sad. If you disagree with any of the truths that I have listed above, I would be happy to go over them with you and explain the reasoning in detail using all the relevant scriptures.
 

Sipsey

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You are making something unrelated fit into your interpretation.
It seems quite relative to my perspective. I’m sure you are as entrenched In your view as I in mine. For Jesus to elevate the faith of a Military commander of a foreign country publicly says much. Also in Acts, the faithful witness of another centurion is spoken of. How can it be that two men that are trained killers and leaders of 100 more trained in warfare occupy such prominence in Scripture? The premise for personal defense cannot be far away.
 
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DWR

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Hello DWR! Don't be sad. If you disagree with any of the truths that I have listed above, I would be happy to go over them with you and explain the reasoning in detail using all the relevant scriptures.
Well, I do not need a self proclaimed authority to explain anything to me.
All you will do is to continue to put out your opinions based on your own interpretation of Scripture.
While you do seem to understand a few things, for the most part you are very wrong on what and when and who will transpire in the end times.
What saddens me is that you have deceived yourself to the extent that you will never listen to others as we try to set you straight.
I really hope that your only audience in on this sight. I would hate to think that you teach others in a local church., but
I don't mean to offend but I will continue to show my disagreement with the things you post that I disagree with.
No need to explain why because you will not listen.
 

Prycejosh1987

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Education is moot. Rely not on your own understanding; I do not and do well. Pray in Jesus Christ's holy, sovereign, all powerful name for His Holy Spirit's discernment and revelation. I do daily and do well; thus know what the Lord would have me and others know. We all slip and fall. The key is to get back up and keep marching on, Christian soldier.
Preach on brother, but i have one issue, you said education is moot, i agree that we should discover the world too. It helps us have more understanding on the works of God as people in this world and also Helps us obtain world things. Obviously for the glory of God.
 
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"Cool clique club Christians," break up the party and get down to the Lord's work.

Revelation 3:15-19
Authorized (King James) Version

15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. 17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: 18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 

Blik

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When we read prophecy in order to find out the exact way that the Lord will fulfill it instead of that these things will happen we are doing what the Pharisees did about the coming of the Messiah. The Lord has never explained His method of bringing about His prophecy. We are told the end is coming and to have faith in that we will be taken care of and protected. That is the message of truth the Lord is giving us, we will be able to recognize His method of bring this about if we watch for it.
 
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Read, study and soak in the Book of Revelation; be blessed. I would not say I believe with an "if," rather know with proof that this is the last generation to be confronted with the A.C., alive and about to assume power in these very final days.
We are in the last days, the end time, for God is ready to end sin on earth, but He will not give up on the world until the world gives up on Him, so He is allowing the world to have their way for 7 years, and rebel against Him, and then He will end sin on earth.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

The new age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, beast.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

Since they view the Bible, religions, and reality differently things will change because of that.

They took prayer out of school and taught evolution, and believe science confirms evolution.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom in Revelation 13.

2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
2Ti 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
2Ti 4:4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

The time will come when the world will not want to endure the truth of the Bible, but want to hear the Bible according to their own lusts, evolving through nature, and there is no personal God above them, which God said they will say, I am and no one else beside me.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and push the agenda of the new age movement to prepare the world for when he claims to be God.

1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1Th 5:4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
1Th 5:5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

When the nations come together for a global government the saints will not be deceived by that but know it is not of God for they are going against the operation of God on earth.

United Nations Agenda 21, 1992, 179 nations agreed to it, and now they all agree to it, and ready to come together for a global government.

Sustainability development, ecology, economy, social, ban the police, communities work to stop crime in the communities, and people watch the street, and watch their neighbor.

Ecology- balance between nature and people.
Take all people out of the rural areas and place them in the cities, and no development can happen outside city limits, and there is no police force, but communities work to stop crime in the communities, and if they cannot handle it the military will handle it probably Chinese and Russian troops.

Economy- put everyone on an equal level economically.

Social- put everyone equal social status wise.

Target date, 2030, for all nations to be compatible with Agenda 21 to come together for a global government, which will be a balance between democracy and socialism, and they all have the same government format, and all people are equal with no dissension between government and government, people and people, and government and people.

America has to change to a new form of government that is a balance between democracy and socialism for they are going along with Agenda 21 and a global government.

Which President Trump said that America has laid a path of peace and security in the world, and wants the nations to thrive next to each other, and wants the nations to step it up and work for peace on earth.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change.

It appears that America wants the protests and riots to push equality, and to ban the police, and they want the division and to cause it to get out of hand so that they can go to a new form of government and say they have to do that for the peace and safety of the nation, and to stop the fighting between Right Wing and Left Wing, and have a government where there is no more Republican and Democrat party but they are one with no division, and bring the people together in equality.

That means Republican and Democrat would be working together and Democrats pushing socialism more, and Republicans pushing democracy more, and wanting that to appear that way to the people so they can have a balance between the 2.

And they are kicking up the fighting among the 2 parties, so that the people will kick it up in fighting with each other over Right Wing and Left Wing.

For they need the conflicts, chaos, and division according to their plan, but I do not know how far they will allow it to go on, but they will probably wait until after the election and Trump wins for then they will really go bonkers and then eventually they will put a stop to it.

They might want the division among the people to escalate in to a war but I do not know.

You do not elect the President in this point in time for they are working together now to go to a new form of government, and Trump winning the election would be the chaos they need to put down the fighting down.

Pro 30:11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.
Pro 30:12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.
Pro 30:13 There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up.
Pro 30:14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

God told us of the last generation before Jesus comes back, and they will heap money to themselves and not care about the poor and needy, which we see now, and this cannot happen unless there is technology like now.

We are in the end time and close to Jesus coming back, and the target date for a global government is 2030, but it could be sooner, but when the nations come together as one and work for peace on earth then the New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and then the world only has 7 years and God will end sin on earth.

Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
 
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What happens the after the catching away and AC revelation?
Who tells others of God? 144,000?
For there will be saved during the trib
Some say chapter 20 of Revelation is a parable The whole book of Revaltion is a parable. The first verses identifies it as not only inspired but the signified language of God, the poetic tongue. Called the "hidden mana" in chapter 2. The bread of unfamiliarity.

Revelation 1 King James Version (KJV) The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

The signified tongue of God should be looked at through the prescription freely given to us for rightly dividing parables. .
2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Satan would turn those things upside down taking away the unseen understanding of the Potter .It would seem Christians understand by mixing faith with the things seen . . they are not the things seen but representatives or shadows.

The 144,000 as a unknow represents the whole bride of Christ made up of many (144,000) lively stones that make up the spiritual houses of God, the church. We look to the unseen things of God those he reveals in His signified tongue the gospel .

Isaiah 29:16 Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

We walk by faith not by wondering .

2 Corinthians 5:7(For we walk by faith, not by sight )
 
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End times are hard for me and I'm sorry if this sounds simpleton.
Maybe I should just concentrate on my walk
Its all how can we hear God not seen nothing is wasted. The Holy Spirit our teacher comforter and guide continues to bring to our memory the things he has taught The first works of His labor of love working in us are the hardest. His longsuffering working in us with us simpletons can teach us to be kind the second work . Keep studying.
 
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Matthew 24:29-31

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days:
‘The sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’
30At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.d 31And He will send out His angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather His elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 
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End times are hard for me and I'm sorry if this sounds simpleton.
Maybe I should just concentrate on my walk

Just curious....in what respect are the pending end times hard for you...to understand or...to accept as reality?
 
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"Contrary to Global News, CTV, CBC, the lGbt community, and even the Vancouver mayor, this video shows that the Vancouver police department acted fairly and unbiased, members of the said community DID ASSAULT DAVID and police officers, the lgbt community was not targeted, David Lynn and the Christians with him were bullied and assaulted, and david Lynn and the Christians with him were the only ones who were peaceful and had their rights violated.

Lesson: news agencies and the community can and do lie to you!"

- Christ's Forgiveness Ministries

 

stepbystep

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From what I have read, much of Revelation was written in a "code" known only to the Jews at that time to prevent the Roman Government from knowing what was being written/recorded in the Book of Revelation.

If this is true, then I do not see how anything other than speculation can be used to "decode" those parts of the Book of Revelation, and that concerns me because of this verse in Revelation:

22:18) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

22:19) And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things that are written in this book.

One person said they were not leaning on their own understanding, but I believe anyone who engages in attempting to decipher the coded language in Revelation are playing a dangerous game.

Yes, there are parts of Revelation that do not require decoding, and studying those parts is wonderful information to receive from the Book. But, past that, and diving into the coded parts is risking eternal damnation I believe. Verses 18 and 19 of Chapter 22 make this quite clear.
 

JaumeJ

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With the Book, Revelation, credited to John the Apostle, having written down the words of the Book given him, I cannot understands how anyone could say it is not for all who believe Jesus-Yeshua.

There is but one greatest tribulation ever, one.
 

Ahwatukee

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From what I have read, much of Revelation was written in a "code" known only to the Jews at that time to prevent the Roman Government from knowing what was being written/recorded in the Book of Revelation.

If this is true, then I do not see how anything other than speculation can be used to "decode" those parts of the Book of Revelation, and that concerns me because of this verse in Revelation:

22:18) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

22:19) And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things that are written in this book.

One person said they were not leaning on their own understanding, but I believe anyone who engages in attempting to decipher the coded language in Revelation are playing a dangerous game.

Yes, there are parts of Revelation that do not require decoding, and studying those parts is wonderful information to receive from the Book. But, past that, and diving into the coded parts is risking eternal damnation I believe. Verses 18 and 19 of Chapter 22 make this quite clear.
While it is true that to understand the book of Revelation takes study, it is not coded as some have taught. The very first verse tells the reader its purpose:

"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants the things which must come to pass in quickness."

The "things which must come to pass" are the events of wrath via the seals, trumpets and bowl judgments and all related information. If it was coded, then no one could know what it was saying?