Chosen by God - A study in Election
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Sure it is....it is the. Biblical teaching, pure and simple.
Jesus taught it, Calvinists believe it.
We go to the book of Acts to see what the Apostles preached.
Notice what I said was true.
Are you suggesting God is not going to hold the trespasses of the unsaved against them at the white throne judgment?
I see you simply read that verse( 2 cor 5.19 ) and that was your conclusion. Thats what reading the Bible without a system dictating does . What else is the verse saying ? 18And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
? Going to the book of Acts to see the Acts of the apostles is best practice. Not to derive Doctrines from . 29 different conversion accounts is not the pattern for doctrine to be established on .
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May need to back track . Sometimes I'm replying to the wrong person. Sorry .Where did I say anything about either?
Thank you. It is by default one group is chosen for damnation if one group is chosen for salvation.
All word games in the world wont change that. Calvinists are something else to deal with, so cold. So cold.
It is the most complex theology I have ever come across, which is why they need to have professionals explaining it to their laymen, who then parrot these arguments to us.
Okie dokie. I simply posted a panel... this one
John 12:31-32
The point being, since it is said you cannot come unless you are
drawn, whereas Jesus says, He will draw all men to Himself.
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I am so tired of reading how they were chosen.. they did nothing.....the Holy Spirit just came upon them .. did not even know the bible.. etc.,, etc.,
Yet they do everything and anything to complicate and obfuscate everything you stated above.
Actually you could say more accurately that one group is CHOSEN for salvation and the other group is ABANDONED to damnation. Not CHOSEN to damnation. Why? Because they don't want to be saved. Because they love their sin. Because they resist the Holy Spirit. Because they commit the unpardonable sin. Maybe lots of similar things.
That is just some off-the-cuff commentary. Not meant to be doctrine. Nothing more than a reaction to what you have stated. Whether it makes sense or not, or is scriptural or not, I leave up to you.
"they were chosen.. they did nothing.....the Holy Spirit just came upon them"
That's quite an admission. Well spoken.
Sounds like a merciful act of grace by God Himself, no more no less.
How can God hold the trespasses of the unsaved when He has already reconciled them ? Does the Holy Spirit reprove them for anything other than 'not Believing in Jesus . The very thing Calvinism stupidly teaches they are unable to do ?
Is it not the Calvinist view that some were created/predestined for damnation?
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