So I have an idea for a discussion
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you mean peter the chief apostle of the church ?
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
Matthew 16:18 KJV
peter means rock of course
What are you meaning by “ saved” what are we saved from ? And when is salvation?
Salvation comes when jesus returns to gather his people into the kingdom were being saved from this
“But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
we’re being delivered into this promised land
....Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10, 13-14 KJV
We are looking for the promised land
“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”
Colossians 3:1-2 KJV
we’re waiting for his return and then he will usher in the kingdom
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
Titus 2:11-14
when Jesus returns this world is done for but we have a promised land who’s builder and maker is God .
“And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”
Matthew 16:18 KJV
peter means rock of course
What are you meaning by “ saved” what are we saved from ? And when is salvation?
Salvation comes when jesus returns to gather his people into the kingdom were being saved from this
“But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
we’re being delivered into this promised land
....Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.”
2 Peter 3:7, 10, 13-14 KJV
We are looking for the promised land
“If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.”
Colossians 3:1-2 KJV
we’re waiting for his return and then he will usher in the kingdom
“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.”
Titus 2:11-14
when Jesus returns this world is done for but we have a promised land who’s builder and maker is God .
it’s essential for anyone to believe that God was going to deal with sin once for all . It doesn’t matter if you were before or after the cross . God has made these promises for centuries before
if one refuses to believe what God said we can’t be saved thats 100 percent true no matter how many times you say you believe he died and rose you have to accept the word of God but I’m done I’m a drop off this just a derailment of the thread I attempted to start so anyways you can find others who want to be convinced of this idea ive
Met a few already here who like discussing why Jesus word doesn’t apply to salvation
.I don’t enjoy the topic I find it Childish and So basic that Gods word always applies to his people. Sort of why I asked in the op not to bring this doctrine into the thread .
if one refuses to believe what God said we can’t be saved thats 100 percent true no matter how many times you say you believe he died and rose you have to accept the word of God but I’m done I’m a drop off this just a derailment of the thread I attempted to start so anyways you can find others who want to be convinced of this idea ive
Met a few already here who like discussing why Jesus word doesn’t apply to salvation
.I don’t enjoy the topic I find it Childish and So basic that Gods word always applies to his people. Sort of why I asked in the op not to bring this doctrine into the thread .
In view of the direction of this thread and your stated preference to stay on track with the OP, perhaps we can catch up on this particular topic ( ^ ) at another time and in a different thread. 
[I'll just say here that Paul doesn't merely reference it in one verse, the one ppl commonly acknowledge--1Th4:17--but something like TEN TIMES in his two epistles to the Thessalonians--and, again, "Rapture" pertains SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods--not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
Well, to be clear, I too believe ALL OF IT is "God's Word" (from Genesis to Revelation)... so I am the same, in that regard...
it's just that we are to be "correctly apportioning the word of truth". For example, a new believer may ask themselves if they are supposed to be building an ark next week. Answer: no. That was instruction for Noah, in Noah's day. It applied to him, in particular, and at a particular time-frame. = )
Thanks for the discussion. I've enjoyed it despite its getting "off track" from the OP (I think!... However, I think when I first read the OP I must have misunderstood the objective... my apologies. )
Carry on! (see you around the boards!)
[I'll just say here that Paul doesn't merely reference it in one verse, the one ppl commonly acknowledge--1Th4:17--but something like TEN TIMES in his two epistles to the Thessalonians--and, again, "Rapture" pertains SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods--not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
Well, to be clear, I too believe ALL OF IT is "God's Word" (from Genesis to Revelation)... so I am the same, in that regard...
it's just that we are to be "correctly apportioning the word of truth". For example, a new believer may ask themselves if they are supposed to be building an ark next week. Answer: no. That was instruction for Noah, in Noah's day. It applied to him, in particular, and at a particular time-frame. = )
Thanks for the discussion. I've enjoyed it despite its getting "off track" from the OP (I think!... However, I think when I first read the OP I must have misunderstood the objective... my apologies.
)Carry on! (see you around the boards!)
Hello welcome . You are correct to learn humbly . The example given to us by God . that is Jesus Christ.. It is so amazing to think God loved us so much He took a piece of Himself to fertilize the egg of a virgin human so we can have an example as to how to behave correctly for the best life we can have In these body's on this planet untill God calls us home . Thank you for this simple but easley over looked reminder that it all starts with Humbling ourselves
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Paul was preaching the gospel of the kingdom also there’s only 1 gospel here is PAULS words to the Ephesians church
“And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.”
Acts 20:25 KJV
that’s what Paul is saying here is what Paul preached when he first began
“And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.”
Acts 9:20 KJV
again pauls role in Christianity is a witness to the one true gospel he is a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ Our lord
“Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:”
Romans 1:1, 3-6 KJV
when you guys are saying “ I believe in the death and resurrection “ the reason your supposed to believe that is because it is proof of who jesus is . He is the Lord the term lord has a meaning
“one having power and authority over others: a : a ruler by hereditary right or preeminence to whom service and obedience are due. “
That’s why pauls and the apostles are always talking about inheritance the earth and everything in it belongs to Jesus . This world will be destroyed but by the gospel we can be saved from the terrible end .
when we confess Jesus as lord it has a meaning we have to mean it be sincere he is our Lord and he is full of ah race and truth for salvation
“And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more.”
Acts 20:25 KJV
that’s what Paul is saying here is what Paul preached when he first began
“And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.”
Acts 9:20 KJV
again pauls role in Christianity is a witness to the one true gospel he is a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ Our lord
“Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:”
Romans 1:1, 3-6 KJV
when you guys are saying “ I believe in the death and resurrection “ the reason your supposed to believe that is because it is proof of who jesus is . He is the Lord the term lord has a meaning
“one having power and authority over others: a : a ruler by hereditary right or preeminence to whom service and obedience are due. “
That’s why pauls and the apostles are always talking about inheritance the earth and everything in it belongs to Jesus . This world will be destroyed but by the gospel we can be saved from the terrible end .
when we confess Jesus as lord it has a meaning we have to mean it be sincere he is our Lord and he is full of ah race and truth for salvation
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Right.
You are correct... there were some things that must necessarily have been kept secret/hidden BEFORE His death (for this reason: 1Cor2:8).
But which AFTER His death were secret/hidden no more...
30 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through [/in] a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.” - Acts 17:30-31
...there is one thing one ought not to be found in attitude of:
"...and having esteemed ordinary the blood of the covenant... "
...for we see:
"18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, firstborn out from the dead, so that He might be holding preeminence in all things, 19 because all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace by [means of] the blood of His cross through Him, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens." Colossians 1:18-20 [see also verses 21-23]
Well, yes... because even at the empty sepulchre, it is said of Peter and that other disciple (John 20:9), "For AS YET THEY KNEW NOT the scripture, that He must rise again from the dead." (and, in fact, there was only ONE of these two of whom it was said, in that scene, that "he SAW [the linen clothes] AND BELIEVED"--and it was not Peter of whom this was said). How could they have "preached 'His death and resurrection'" at any time before this point? The fact is, they did not.
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["...which also you received, in which you also stand..."]
You are correct... there were some things that must necessarily have been kept secret/hidden BEFORE His death (for this reason: 1Cor2:8).
But which AFTER His death were secret/hidden no more...
30 “Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through [/in] a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.” - Acts 17:30-31
...there is one thing one ought not to be found in attitude of:
"...and having esteemed ordinary the blood of the covenant... "
...for we see:
"18 And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, firstborn out from the dead, so that He might be holding preeminence in all things, 19 because all the fullness was pleased to dwell in Him, 20 and by Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace by [means of] the blood of His cross through Him, whether the things on the earth or the things in the heavens." Colossians 1:18-20 [see also verses 21-23]
Well, yes... because even at the empty sepulchre, it is said of Peter and that other disciple (John 20:9), "For AS YET THEY KNEW NOT the scripture, that He must rise again from the dead." (and, in fact, there was only ONE of these two of whom it was said, in that scene, that "he SAW [the linen clothes] AND BELIEVED"--and it was not Peter of whom this was said). How could they have "preached 'His death and resurrection'" at any time before this point? The fact is, they did not.
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["...which also you received, in which you also stand..."]
you know how you are touching on the blood of the new covenant ? There is a word attached to the blood if you deny the word that very word will condemn you , if you accept it you will live . Because this is who’s words you want to remove from “ salvation “
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
John 12:48-50 KJV
There’s nothing you could ever explain to change that God appeared on earth and offered eternal life he explained it and said believe Paul is a witness of that
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”
2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV
it’s simple to repent and believe the gospel I hope you will , but your own relationship with God is between you and him God bless I feel I’ve said everything I can about this and again thanks for your time hope to find agreement some other time
There are something like 5-7 distinct "judgments"... the one you are pointing out here ^ is "the judgment seat [/BEMA] of Christ," which is designated solely for the "WE" of this text (i.e. "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY")... and the word "evil/bad [G5337]" here can mean "ordinary, mean, worthless, of no account" (i.e. of no eternal value... like, even seemingly 'good' things believers may invest their time and efforts into, but which are not 'instigated and driven' by the Spirit, they are just 'fluff'... of no eternal value).
Same context being spoken of in 1 Corinthians 3:10-15... "But let every man take heed HOW he buildeth THEREUPON... Now if any man BUILD UPON this foundation GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES [things of eternal value], WOOD, HAY, STUBBLE [worthless things (even seemingly 'good' things, that are simply of no eternal value) that get burned up]; Every man's WORK [singular] shall be made manifest... because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall TRY every man's WORK of what SORT it is. If any man's WORK [singular] abide which he hath built THEREUPON, he shall receive A REWARD. If any man's WORK [singular] shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." This is not a so-called "general judgment" of ALL mankind of all time periods. This is pertaining SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" at the "BEMA" (for "reward" or loss of "reward"--not for determining "salvation / eternal life ").
At the time of Rev5:9 (when the 24 elders say, "hath redeemed US to God... out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" [and they are saying this while UP IN Heaven, and BEFORE the FIRST SEAL is opened, when Jesus will "STAND to JUDGE") a "searching judgment" has ALREADY taken place, as indicated by the word "was found" in 5:4 (just like is used in Paul's arrest and trials toward the end of Acts, when he is brought before their "human/earthly" bema). The 24 elders are shown to be wearing "stephanous/crowns" (4:4,10; see Rev2:10 and 3:11 in the "things WHICH ARE" section of Rev) and are wearing "white himatiois " (4:4; see 3:5, again in that section of chpts 2-3), and are sitting on "24 THRONES" (now what do you suppose THOSE are for? see 1Cor6:3,2,14, etc [other passages elsewhere]).
This is not the same "judgment" as the GWTj in Rev20:11-15, nor the same "judgment" as the "Sheep and goat [of the still-living nations at the time of His "RETURN" to the earth] judgment/separation," and this is not the same "judgment" as the 70th Week of Daniel (for Israel, though Gentiles will also be involved in that time period--commonly called the 7-yr tribulation period, leading UP TO His Second Coming to the earth Rev19, which time period is the "DARK/DARKNESS/IN THE NIGHT"-aspect OF the entire long time period known as "the Day of the Lord" [which is not merely 'a singular 24-hr day']). These are all DISTINCT "judgments" (if you will), for DISTINCT PURPOSES, and pertaining to distinct persons. The one you are referring to pertains solely to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (all those saved/having come to faith "in this present age [singular]"--i.e. from Pentecost to the time of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"... [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence); and Paul in 2Th2 is telling of a SEQUENCE--WHAT happens WHEN, in relation TIME-WISE to WHAT OTHER THING.])
Same context being spoken of in 1 Corinthians 3:10-15... "But let every man take heed HOW he buildeth THEREUPON... Now if any man BUILD UPON this foundation GOLD, SILVER, PRECIOUS STONES [things of eternal value], WOOD, HAY, STUBBLE [worthless things (even seemingly 'good' things, that are simply of no eternal value) that get burned up]; Every man's WORK [singular] shall be made manifest... because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall TRY every man's WORK of what SORT it is. If any man's WORK [singular] abide which he hath built THEREUPON, he shall receive A REWARD. If any man's WORK [singular] shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED; yet so as by fire." This is not a so-called "general judgment" of ALL mankind of all time periods. This is pertaining SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" at the "BEMA" (for "reward" or loss of "reward"--not for determining "salvation / eternal life ").
At the time of Rev5:9 (when the 24 elders say, "hath redeemed US to God... out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation" [and they are saying this while UP IN Heaven, and BEFORE the FIRST SEAL is opened, when Jesus will "STAND to JUDGE") a "searching judgment" has ALREADY taken place, as indicated by the word "was found" in 5:4 (just like is used in Paul's arrest and trials toward the end of Acts, when he is brought before their "human/earthly" bema). The 24 elders are shown to be wearing "stephanous/crowns" (4:4,10; see Rev2:10 and 3:11 in the "things WHICH ARE" section of Rev) and are wearing "white himatiois " (4:4; see 3:5, again in that section of chpts 2-3), and are sitting on "24 THRONES" (now what do you suppose THOSE are for? see 1Cor6:3,2,14, etc [other passages elsewhere]).
This is not the same "judgment" as the GWTj in Rev20:11-15, nor the same "judgment" as the "Sheep and goat [of the still-living nations at the time of His "RETURN" to the earth] judgment/separation," and this is not the same "judgment" as the 70th Week of Daniel (for Israel, though Gentiles will also be involved in that time period--commonly called the 7-yr tribulation period, leading UP TO His Second Coming to the earth Rev19, which time period is the "DARK/DARKNESS/IN THE NIGHT"-aspect OF the entire long time period known as "the Day of the Lord" [which is not merely 'a singular 24-hr day']). These are all DISTINCT "judgments" (if you will), for DISTINCT PURPOSES, and pertaining to distinct persons. The one you are referring to pertains solely to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (all those saved/having come to faith "in this present age [singular]"--i.e. from Pentecost to the time of "our Rapture [IN THE AIR]"... [Eph1:20-23 WHEN (as to its existence); and Paul in 2Th2 is telling of a SEQUENCE--WHAT happens WHEN, in relation TIME-WISE to WHAT OTHER THING.])
^ Thank you. And thank you for the discussion and the opportunity to "explain". See you around the boards (I'll try to refrain from hopping back into this thread for any further "derailing" from the OP objective. )
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["1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things above, where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on the things above, not the things on the earth. 3 For you have died, and your life has been hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ youra life may be revealed, then you also will appear with [G4862 - UNIONed-WITH] Him in glory." (see also 1Tim2:5, in response to what you had said to me in that last post, Post #150, at bottom = ) )]
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["1 If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things above, where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your minds on the things above, not the things on the earth. 3 For you have died, and your life has been hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ youra life may be revealed, then you also will appear with [G4862 - UNIONed-WITH] Him in glory." (see also 1Tim2:5, in response to what you had said to me in that last post, Post #150, at bottom = ) )]
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One of my favorite things to contemplate as far as Jesus' words is what He meant by using David eating the consecrated bread in Luke 6.
It seems to me there is much to draw upon from that example with regard to our relationship with the law and righteousness. It seems a bit random for Jesus to bring it up before declaring Himself Lord of the Sabbath.
Even further is if we look to what He says in Mark when accused of breaking the Sabbath, declaring the Sabbath to have been made for man not the other way around.
Does this declaration apply to the whole law, is the law also made for man not man for the law?
It seems to me there is much to draw upon from that example with regard to our relationship with the law and righteousness. It seems a bit random for Jesus to bring it up before declaring Himself Lord of the Sabbath.
Even further is if we look to what He says in Mark when accused of breaking the Sabbath, declaring the Sabbath to have been made for man not the other way around.
Does this declaration apply to the whole law, is the law also made for man not man for the law?
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True, but even after Christ fulfilled the law we still have James speaking of it as the law that brings freedom and teling us to be doers of the law.
I look to the psalmist and the way he sings so lovingly about the law, as well. The law is perfect and lovely, yet many Christians seem to think it is an adversary.
Maybe Christ was revealing something about the relationship we're to have with the law not living by the letter but by the Spirit by which it came.
Maybe that's how we can join in the song singing "Oh how I love your law!"
I look to the psalmist and the way he sings so lovingly about the law, as well. The law is perfect and lovely, yet many Christians seem to think it is an adversary.
Maybe Christ was revealing something about the relationship we're to have with the law not living by the letter but by the Spirit by which it came.
Maybe that's how we can join in the song singing "Oh how I love your law!"
In view of the direction of this thread and your stated preference to stay on track with the OP, perhaps we can catch up on this particular topic ( ^ ) at another time and in a different thread.
[I'll just say here that Paul doesn't merely reference it in one verse, the one ppl commonly acknowledge--1Th4:17--but something like TEN TIMES in his two epistles to the Thessalonians--and, again, "Rapture" pertains SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods--not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
Well, to be clear, I too believe ALL OF IT is "God's Word" (from Genesis to Revelation)... so I am the same, in that regard...
it's just that we are to be "correctly apportioning the word of truth". For example, a new believer may ask themselves if they are supposed to be building an ark next week. Answer: no. That was instruction for Noah, in Noah's day. It applied to him, in particular, and at a particular time-frame. = )
Thanks for the discussion. I've enjoyed it despite its getting "off track" from the OP (I think!... However, I think when I first read the OP I must have misunderstood the objective... my apologies. )
Carry on! (see you around the boards!)
[I'll just say here that Paul doesn't merely reference it in one verse, the one ppl commonly acknowledge--1Th4:17--but something like TEN TIMES in his two epistles to the Thessalonians--and, again, "Rapture" pertains SOLELY to "the Church WHICH IS HIS BODY" (Eph1:20-23 WHEN [as to its existence]), NOT to all other saints of all OTHER time periods--not to OT saints, not to Trib saints, not to MK saints]
Well, to be clear, I too believe ALL OF IT is "God's Word" (from Genesis to Revelation)... so I am the same, in that regard...
it's just that we are to be "correctly apportioning the word of truth". For example, a new believer may ask themselves if they are supposed to be building an ark next week. Answer: no. That was instruction for Noah, in Noah's day. It applied to him, in particular, and at a particular time-frame. = )
Thanks for the discussion. I've enjoyed it despite its getting "off track" from the OP (I think!... However, I think when I first read the OP I must have misunderstood the objective... my apologies.
)Carry on! (see you around the boards!)
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
This one stands out to me a lot because I was studying earlier
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:”
Romans 3:21-22
somehow the message we aren’t suppose to believe the gospel has spread but that is how God imparts his righteousness to us.
our issue is
“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
Mark 7:21-23 KJV
Through belief of the things he taught our minds and hearts and attitudes change but only if we will accept and believe it.
so much of his doctrine is about the attitudes we keep and harbor in our hearts , those things are what causes a man to act in sin.
A person who allows and harbors lust in their heart is who commits adultery , A person who holds anger and grudges are who mostly commit violent acts in other words it’s the motivations in mankind that lead us into sin we need the gospel to lead us into righteousness but again it only works if one commits and believes
yes this is a great word agree fully if only we could believe the message that’s written down and believe that knowledge hold to it without letting our great “ intellectual powers” get on the way of believing what’s there what the lord meant for us to know
“I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
Luke 18:8 KJV
“I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?”
Luke 18:8 KJV